Don't be foolish, O Christians

[Avatar4321]

You need, O people, to consider the Muslims' belief. Namely, that we Muslims are more worthy of Jesus than you Christians. Namely, that Jesus has strong hate for you, and that waves of destruction come upon you from Jesus, from Moses, from Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), from God Almighty.

Jesus wonders about the ones who dare say that God Almighty let him down and so he was crucified. Jesus wonders about the cross found in churches, or around your necks. You actually think God made him talk in the cradle, making Mary innocent of what she was accused of, but then in the end God asked him to give his life up for the sake of others. You actually think God will spill the blood of His friends in order to save all mankind. God has no other way to do that, or so you think.

If you want to know to truth, if you care for it, God raised up His friend, Jesus, to Him; and made the enemy of Jesus to die on the cross. That enemy of Jesus kept saying he was not Jesus, but they crucified him anyway because God made him look like Jesus. That's quite a difference with what Pope Francis and Pope Benedict XVI believes. If you don't care for the truth, waves of destruction come upon you from Jesus, from Moses, from Abraham, from Ismail, from Jonah, from Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), from Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali (may God ennoble his face), from God Almighty, Praised and Exalted.


The Women (Surah 4), V 154-158

154. And for their covenant we raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) we said: "Enter the gate with humility"; and (once again) we commanded them: "Transgress not in the matter of the sabbath." And we took from them a solemn covenant.

155. (They have incurred divine displeasure): In that they broke their covenant; that they rejected the signs of Allah. that they slew the Messengers in defiance of right; that they said, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah.s Word; We need no more)";- Nay, Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy, and little is it they believe;-

156. That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;

157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise

Jesus doesn't hate anyone. He even loved His enemies. You would know that if you knew Him

 

[Muslim75]

Avatar and Agit8or,

Joseph Smith does not claim to have received a book from God. The Bible also is not believed in Christianity to be a book from God. It is believed to be a book compiled from sayings of Jesus or accounts given by him. I am not talking about that.

As to Jesus, don't think he looks at wickdness and does not hate it. He hates wickedness and hates wicked people. He sends waves of destruction on wickedness and on wicked people. You may have a dispute with a friend, but it does not mean you stopped loving him. Both are possible at the same time. Whoso does evil, good men hate him.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

people who proselytize are annoying.. ... no matter what book they believe is true.

We Jews agree, why it's forbidden to do so.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

You need, O people, to consider the Muslims' belief. Namely, that we Muslims are more worthy of Jesus than you Christians. Namely, that Jesus has strong hate for you, and that waves of destruction come upon you from Jesus, from Moses, from Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), from God Almighty.

Jesus wonders about the ones who dare say that God Almighty let him down and so he was crucified. Jesus wonders about the cross found in churches, or around your necks. You actually think God made him talk in the cradle, making Mary innocent of what she was accused of, but then in the end God asked him to give his life up for the sake of others. You actually think God will spill the blood of His friends in order to save all mankind. God has no other way to do that, or so you think.

If you want to know to truth, if you care for it, God raised up His friend, Jesus, to Him; and made the enemy of Jesus to die on the cross. That enemy of Jesus kept saying he was not Jesus, but they crucified him anyway because God made him look like Jesus. That's quite a difference with what Pope Francis and Pope Benedict XVI believes. If you don't care for the truth, waves of destruction come upon you from Jesus, from Moses, from Abraham, from Ismail, from Jonah, from Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), from Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali (may God ennoble his face), from God Almighty, Praised and Exalted.


The Women (Surah 4), V 154-158

154. And for their covenant we raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) we said: "Enter the gate with humility"; and (once again) we commanded them: "Transgress not in the matter of the sabbath." And we took from them a solemn covenant.

155. (They have incurred divine displeasure): In that they broke their covenant; that they rejected the signs of Allah. that they slew the Messengers in defiance of right; that they said, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah.s Word; We need no more)";- Nay, Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy, and little is it they believe;-

156. That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;

157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise

Jesus doesn't hate anyone. He even loved His enemies. You would know that if you knew Him

Seemed to not like the moneychangers much. Or the 3 or more people he killed for various offenses.

 

[koshergrl]

You need, O people, to consider the Muslims' belief. Namely, that we Muslims are more worthy of Jesus than you Christians. Namely, that Jesus has strong hate for you, and that waves of destruction come upon you from Jesus, from Moses, from Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), from God Almighty.

Jesus wonders about the ones who dare say that God Almighty let him down and so he was crucified. Jesus wonders about the cross found in churches, or around your necks. You actually think God made him talk in the cradle, making Mary innocent of what she was accused of, but then in the end God asked him to give his life up for the sake of others. You actually think God will spill the blood of His friends in order to save all mankind. God has no other way to do that, or so you think.

If you want to know to truth, if you care for it, God raised up His friend, Jesus, to Him; and made the enemy of Jesus to die on the cross. That enemy of Jesus kept saying he was not Jesus, but they crucified him anyway because God made him look like Jesus. That's quite a difference with what Pope Francis and Pope Benedict XVI believes. If you don't care for the truth, waves of destruction come upon you from Jesus, from Moses, from Abraham, from Ismail, from Jonah, from Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), from Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali (may God ennoble his face), from God Almighty, Praised and Exalted.


The Women (Surah 4), V 154-158

154. And for their covenant we raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) we said: "Enter the gate with humility"; and (once again) we commanded them: "Transgress not in the matter of the sabbath." And we took from them a solemn covenant.

155. (They have incurred divine displeasure): In that they broke their covenant; that they rejected the signs of Allah. that they slew the Messengers in defiance of right; that they said, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah.s Word; We need no more)";- Nay, Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy, and little is it they believe;-

156. That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;

157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise

Jesus doesn't hate anyone. He even loved His enemies. You would know that if you knew Him

Seemed to not like the moneychangers much. Or the 3 or more people he killed for various offenses.

 

[Hawkins]

Single account witnessing such as muslin and Buddhism is not from God. They are copy cats but without truly understanding the meaning of witnessing. True will use the more valid multiple account witnessing. He will send warnings seriously about bearing false witnessing.

The true God forewarned false witnessing with His 10 commandments. And the Jews are with the custom that single account witnessing is deemed illegal. The true has made muslin and buddhism as illegal some thousands of years ago.

Matthew 19:18-19 (KJV)
He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

It is because humans can bear false witnessing that God arranged the martyrdom of Jesus Christ's direct witnesses. 10 out of 11 direct disciples of Jesus Christ were martyred for what they witnessed, as no witnessing can be made more valid than those bearing the witnessing martyred themselves for what has been said. Only the true God but not the copy cats ever knows this!

You lost me here. What is it that a single person can not witness?

You miss the point. It's not about can or cannot. It's about how valid a witnessing can be.

Do you read newspapers? Will you consider a piece of news only appears in a less famous newspaper more valid, or a piece of news broadcast by multiple credible newspapers a more valid witnessing?

If you are a responsible God, which way will you choose as your witnessing, a single account or multiple accounts?

The Christian God taught the Jews some 3 thousand years ago that a valid witnessing is a witnessing of at least 2 persons.

It's not about whether a less famous newspaper can broadcast a true piece of news. It's about as readers how many will consider it as credible and reliable. It's about whether God would like more humans to consider His witnessing valid. If God chooses a single witnessing, it means He doesn't care if less humans would consider it valid. On the other hand, if God chooses a multiple account witnessing it means that He has already done what should be done for more humans to consider it as valid.

To put it another way, it God cares about what is said about human salvation while He can only make use of single account witnessing, he's not God at all!

 

[jillian]

people who proselytize are annoying.. ... no matter what book they believe is true.

We Jews agree, why it's forbidden to do so.

I'm included in your "we". But just as a matter of manners, I don't thing people should bombard you with their beliefs unless they're invited to do so n

 

[Avatar4321]

Avatar and Agit8or,

Joseph Smith does not claim to have received a book from God. The Bible also is not believed in Christianity to be a book from God. It is believed to be a book compiled from sayings of Jesus or accounts given by him. I am not talking about that.

As to Jesus, don't think he looks at wickdness and does not hate it. He hates wickedness and hates wicked people. He sends waves of destruction on wickedness and on wicked people. You may have a dispute with a friend, but it does not mean you stopped loving him. Both are possible at the same time. Whoso does evil, good men hate him.

So what exactly is the Book of Mormon if not a book Joseph claimed to get from God?

 

[Avatar4321]

people who proselytize are annoying.. ... no matter what book they believe is true.

We Jews agree, why it's forbidden to do so.

Someone should have mentioned that to Jonah, and all the prophets, and God.

 

[Avatar4321]

You need, O people, to consider the Muslims' belief. Namely, that we Muslims are more worthy of Jesus than you Christians. Namely, that Jesus has strong hate for you, and that waves of destruction come upon you from Jesus, from Moses, from Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), from God Almighty.

Jesus wonders about the ones who dare say that God Almighty let him down and so he was crucified. Jesus wonders about the cross found in churches, or around your necks. You actually think God made him talk in the cradle, making Mary innocent of what she was accused of, but then in the end God asked him to give his life up for the sake of others. You actually think God will spill the blood of His friends in order to save all mankind. God has no other way to do that, or so you think.

If you want to know to truth, if you care for it, God raised up His friend, Jesus, to Him; and made the enemy of Jesus to die on the cross. That enemy of Jesus kept saying he was not Jesus, but they crucified him anyway because God made him look like Jesus. That's quite a difference with what Pope Francis and Pope Benedict XVI believes. If you don't care for the truth, waves of destruction come upon you from Jesus, from Moses, from Abraham, from Ismail, from Jonah, from Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), from Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali (may God ennoble his face), from God Almighty, Praised and Exalted.


The Women (Surah 4), V 154-158

154. And for their covenant we raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) we said: "Enter the gate with humility"; and (once again) we commanded them: "Transgress not in the matter of the sabbath." And we took from them a solemn covenant.

155. (They have incurred divine displeasure): In that they broke their covenant; that they rejected the signs of Allah. that they slew the Messengers in defiance of right; that they said, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah.s Word; We need no more)";- Nay, Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy, and little is it they believe;-

156. That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;

157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise

Jesus doesn't hate anyone. He even loved His enemies. You would know that if you knew Him

Seemed to not like the moneychangers much. Or the 3 or more people he killed for various offenses.

Who did Jesus kill again?

 

[jillian]

people who proselytize are annoying.. ... no matter what book they believe is true.

We Jews agree, why it's forbidden to do so.

Someone should have mentioned that to Jonah, and all the prophets, and God.

Jonah is from my bible. And we don't proselytize. So try again.

I respect others beliefs. They shouldn't annoy others with those beliefs.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Someome who claims to have received a book from God, and he makes this book available so that everyone reads it, that can not be a lie. That is the truth.

Someone who claims to have been revealed a book from God, and then changes his society and conquers most of the world in about 100 years, that is not a lie, that is the truth. Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family) received a book from God and made it available to the people. I say "most of the world" because the middle east i center of the planet. He expands from Medina, conquers Jerusalem and Palestine, conquers as far as Iranto the east, and North Africa and Spain to the West, in about 100 years. A few centuries later the Ottomans took over and ruled until the 20th century. The Ottomans have been the longest lasting dynasty in the history of mankind, simply (624 years).

So don't be foolish saying this is no revealed book. This is indeed, the truth from Lord of the universes revealed to a human being, to Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family). If you love God you may cherish His word, in your homes, within yourselves. But don't be foolish,professing unbelief in the prophethood of Muhammad.

The Quran is a book of lies written by a lying child raper.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Someome who claims to have received a book from God, and he makes this book available so that everyone reads it, that can not be a lie. That is the truth.

Someone who claims to have been revealed a book from God, and then changes his society and conquers most of the world in about 100 years, that is not a lie, that is the truth. Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family) received a book from God and made it available to the people. I say "most of the world" because the middle east i center of the planet. He expands from Medina, conquers Jerusalem and Palestine, conquers as far as Iranto the east, and North Africa and Spain to the West, in about 100 years. A few centuries later the Ottomans took over and ruled until the 20th century. The Ottomans have been the longest lasting dynasty in the history of mankind, simply (624 years).

So don't be foolish saying this is no revealed book. This is indeed, the truth from Lord of the universes revealed to a human being, to Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family). If you love God you may cherish His word, in your homes, within yourselves. But don't be foolish,professing unbelief in the prophethood of Muhammad.

"Someome who claims to have received a book from God, and he makes this book available so that everyone reads it, that can not be a lie. That is the truth."

Of course it can be a lie.

Sometimes, it is appropriate to point and laugh.

No this guy is right. So why don't Christians, Mormons and Jews see it?

No that guy is wrong.

 

[Avatar4321]

people who proselytize are annoying.. ... no matter what book they believe is true.

We Jews agree, why it's forbidden to do so.

Someone should have mentioned that to Jonah, and all the prophets, and God.

Jonah is from my bible. And we don't proselytize. So try again.

I respect others beliefs. They shouldn't annoy others with those beliefs.

I know who Jonah is. That's precisely why I cited him as he was called to proselyte in Nineveh.

 

[ogibillm]

Because the Book of Mormon was translated by the power of God.

And why should we believe the Bible where it's been incorrectly translated?

THE Book of Mormon was translated by a sinful human, with many errors; the Bible was not.

So who are these sinless humans that translated the Bible. And which translation did they translate?

God said the KJV is his word. Did he not tell you the same thing?

That doesn't tell me who the sinless people are

OK, I will admit that not a one of the people who worked on the King James translation was sinless it is a translation approved by God.

According to whom? It's not even complete.

 

[RandomVariable]

THE Book of Mormon was translated by a sinful human, with many errors; the Bible was not.

So who are these sinless humans that translated the Bible. And which translation did they translate?

God said the KJV is his word. Did he not tell you the same thing?

That doesn't tell me who the sinless people are

OK, I will admit that not a one of the people who worked on the King James translation was sinless it is a translation approved by God.

According to whom? It's not even complete.

Are you interested in understanding God or arguing about pieces of paper?