Donald Trup Jr. post ad CNN refused to run network doubles down on racist claim

[Pogo]

Why don't you essplain to the class, Hunior, why CNN --- or NBC or Fox, both of which also refused to air the ad ---- should be forced to run a particular ad. You know, in the world of "small government" and all.

This oughta be good.

Because it's a political ad, it shouldn't be censored. You're ok with business censoring speech?

As required by what? The Constitution? Who decides?

I'm asking you, are you ok with companies censoring speech based on politics?

Refusing to run a political ad, refusing the revenue for the ad, is not censorship. There are no regulations compelling a for profit business to run any political ad. Are you saying there are?

I'm saying there are times to be apolitical. It seems petty, like these musicians who complain when republicans play there song (just as background without any political leaning). IT's a slippery slope

That's an inept comparison, although on one level there is a similarity. A politician using somebody's song is riding, as on a horse, on somebody else's intellectual property. That implies a cooperative association between the artist and the politician, which is why they order the politician to cease and desist.

A TV channel renting out its commercial time, an exercise in which it reserves the right to refuse service to anyone, can also be seen as implying a cooperative association between itself and a commercial sponsor that expresses itself in bad taste.

In both cases that's an association that the artist, and the TV station, don't wish to cultivate when they find the association contradictory to their character.

 

[Pogo]

Why don't you essplain to the class, Hunior, why CNN --- or NBC or Fox, both of which also refused to air the ad ---- should be forced to run a particular ad. You know, in the world of "small government" and all.

This oughta be good.

Because it's a political ad, it shouldn't be censored. You're ok with business censoring speech?

You understand what an "ad" is right?

It's something you purchase. A vendor sells you that time, or if you like rents that amount of time on their airwaves for your message.

Now if you were advertising cigarettes or pornography or a meeting of the Baby Fuckers Society, well that commercial entity with the time to rent might, and presumably would, decline to rent you that time and would refuse to take your money. NOTHING says they are obliged to sell that time to whoever comes waddling in waving a stack of bills.

Whelp --- same thing here. That media entity has its reputation to preserve and it doesn't want that rep sullied with messages of blood or perversion or hate. Including Fox.

Ok, so what was wrong with the ad? I keep asking, nobody wants to state it.

No idea. Haven't seen it. I don't sell advertising and I don't own a TV. But those who do sell it --- in this case NBC, CNN and Fox ---- apparently thought it to be in unacceptably poor taste.

And you know whose problem that is?

Those who produced the spot and thought they could run it.

Having Paul Ryan push an old lady off a cliff wasn't "poor taste?"

Uhhhmmmm............. huh?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Because it's a political ad, it shouldn't be censored. You're ok with business censoring speech?

You understand what an "ad" is right?

It's something you purchase. A vendor sells you that time, or if you like rents that amount of time on their airwaves for your message.

Now if you were advertising cigarettes or pornography or a meeting of the Baby Fuckers Society, well that commercial entity with the time to rent might, and presumably would, decline to rent you that time and would refuse to take your money. NOTHING says they are obliged to sell that time to whoever comes waddling in waving a stack of bills.

Whelp --- same thing here. That media entity has its reputation to preserve and it doesn't want that rep sullied with messages of blood or perversion or hate. Including Fox.

Ok, so what was wrong with the ad? I keep asking, nobody wants to state it.

No idea. Haven't seen it. I don't sell advertising and I don't own a TV. But those who do sell it --- in this case NBC, CNN and Fox ---- apparently thought it to be in unacceptably poor taste.

And you know whose problem that is?

Those who produced the spot and thought they could run it.

Having Paul Ryan push an old lady off a cliff wasn't "poor taste?"

Uhhhmmmm............. huh?

I know you know about the commercial but I'll humor you. This actually ran on TV.

 

[Pogo]

You understand what an "ad" is right?

It's something you purchase. A vendor sells you that time, or if you like rents that amount of time on their airwaves for your message.

Now if you were advertising cigarettes or pornography or a meeting of the Baby Fuckers Society, well that commercial entity with the time to rent might, and presumably would, decline to rent you that time and would refuse to take your money. NOTHING says they are obliged to sell that time to whoever comes waddling in waving a stack of bills.

Whelp --- same thing here. That media entity has its reputation to preserve and it doesn't want that rep sullied with messages of blood or perversion or hate. Including Fox.

Ok, so what was wrong with the ad? I keep asking, nobody wants to state it.

No idea. Haven't seen it. I don't sell advertising and I don't own a TV. But those who do sell it --- in this case NBC, CNN and Fox ---- apparently thought it to be in unacceptably poor taste.

And you know whose problem that is?

Those who produced the spot and thought they could run it.

Having Paul Ryan push an old lady off a cliff wasn't "poor taste?"

Uhhhmmmm............. huh?

I know you know about the commercial but I'll humor you. This actually ran on TV.

Exactly what part of "I don't own a TV" continues to fly over your head here?

No I've never seen that. Didn't see Paul Ryan though. Was that him rolling the wheelchair?

Now what's this got to do with this thread?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Ok, so what was wrong with the ad? I keep asking, nobody wants to state it.

No idea. Haven't seen it. I don't sell advertising and I don't own a TV. But those who do sell it --- in this case NBC, CNN and Fox ---- apparently thought it to be in unacceptably poor taste.

And you know whose problem that is?

Those who produced the spot and thought they could run it.

Having Paul Ryan push an old lady off a cliff wasn't "poor taste?"

Uhhhmmmm............. huh?

I know you know about the commercial but I'll humor you. This actually ran on TV.

Exactly what part of "I don't own a TV" continues to fly over your head here?

No I've never seen that. Didn't see Paul Ryan though. Was that him rolling the wheelchair?

Now what's this got to do with this thread?

Are you really this dumb?
Ok fior the tv, why are you talking about tv adds if you don't watch tv?
Second, yes it was a guy in a suit and then it went to call Paul Ryan, did you not watch the video? You don't need a tv to watch YouTube
Third, you said poor taste, which I showed you a commercial and you do the leftwing thing and ignore that point.......

 

[Pogo]

No idea. Haven't seen it. I don't sell advertising and I don't own a TV. But those who do sell it --- in this case NBC, CNN and Fox ---- apparently thought it to be in unacceptably poor taste.

And you know whose problem that is?

Those who produced the spot and thought they could run it.

Having Paul Ryan push an old lady off a cliff wasn't "poor taste?"

Uhhhmmmm............. huh?

I know you know about the commercial but I'll humor you. This actually ran on TV.

Exactly what part of "I don't own a TV" continues to fly over your head here?

No I've never seen that. Didn't see Paul Ryan though. Was that him rolling the wheelchair?

Now what's this got to do with this thread?

Are you really this dumb?
Ok fior the tv, why are you talking about tv adds if you don't watch tv?

Because it's WHAT THE FUCKING THREAD IS ABOUT, isn't it. Why do I need a TV to know how it works? I specifically don't have a TV because I do know what it is and how it works. That's exactly why I took it to the dump.

Second, yes it was a guy in a suit and then it went to call Paul Ryan, did you not watch the video? You don't need a tv to watch YouTube

Again ---- another reason I took my TV to the dump. Doesn't give me anything with its conditions that I can't get without them.

Third, you said poor taste, which I showed you a commercial and you do the leftwing thing and ignore that point.......

It is in poor taste --- but what's your point here? I don't have any evidence that this ad ran on TV. I do have evidence that it was turned down as an ad. Same thing as the OP here --- again, that Wisconsin TV station isn't required to run an ad just because somebody comes waddling in with a check and a produced tape.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Having Paul Ryan push an old lady off a cliff wasn't "poor taste?"

Uhhhmmmm............. huh?

I know you know about the commercial but I'll humor you. This actually ran on TV.

Exactly what part of "I don't own a TV" continues to fly over your head here?

No I've never seen that. Didn't see Paul Ryan though. Was that him rolling the wheelchair?

Now what's this got to do with this thread?

Are you really this dumb?
Ok fior the tv, why are you talking about tv adds if you don't watch tv?

Because it's WHAT THE FUCKING THREAD IS ABOUT, isn't it. Why do I need a TV to know how it works? I specifically don't have a TV because I do know what it is and how it works. That's exactly why I took it to the dump.

But if you comment on stuff, then say I don't know....it makes you look stupid.

Second, yes it was a guy in a suit and then it went to call Paul Ryan, did you not watch the video? You don't need a tv to watch YouTube

Again ---- another reason I took my TV to the dump. Doesn't give me anything with its conditions that I can't get without them.

Third, you said poor taste, which I showed you a commercial and you do the leftwing thing and ignore that point.......

It is in poor taste --- but what's your point here? I don't have any evidence that this ad ran on TV. I do have evidence that it was turned down as an ad. Same thing as the OP here --- again, that Wisconsin TV station isn't required to run an ad just because somebody comes waddling in with a check and a produced tape.

The problem with choosing not to air adds, is that it sets up for bias and control of information. I don't trust the media at all, as I should have that view. Look at colleges, they don't want anything opposing their leftwing ideas. They don't want speakers who oppose them and if you oppose them, they try and get you kicked out. That is not a free society where you debate ideas.....that's a third world banana republic.

 

[Pogo]

Uhhhmmmm............. huh?

I know you know about the commercial but I'll humor you. This actually ran on TV.

Exactly what part of "I don't own a TV" continues to fly over your head here?

No I've never seen that. Didn't see Paul Ryan though. Was that him rolling the wheelchair?

Now what's this got to do with this thread?

Are you really this dumb?
Ok fior the tv, why are you talking about tv adds if you don't watch tv?

Because it's WHAT THE FUCKING THREAD IS ABOUT, isn't it. Why do I need a TV to know how it works? I specifically don't have a TV because I do know what it is and how it works. That's exactly why I took it to the dump.

But if you comment on stuff, then say I don't know....it makes you look stupid.

Second, yes it was a guy in a suit and then it went to call Paul Ryan, did you not watch the video? You don't need a tv to watch YouTube

Again ---- another reason I took my TV to the dump. Doesn't give me anything with its conditions that I can't get without them.

Third, you said poor taste, which I showed you a commercial and you do the leftwing thing and ignore that point.......

It is in poor taste --- but what's your point here? I don't have any evidence that this ad ran on TV. I do have evidence that it was turned down as an ad. Same thing as the OP here --- again, that Wisconsin TV station isn't required to run an ad just because somebody comes waddling in with a check and a produced tape.

The problem with choosing not to air adds, is that it sets up for bias and control of information. I don't trust the media at all, as I should have that view. Look at colleges, they don't want anything opposing their leftwing ideas. They don't want speakers who oppose them and if you oppose them, they try and get you kicked out. That is not a free society where you debate ideas.....that's a third world banana republic.

Bull Shit.

Ads (it has one D) are not "information". Advertising exists for one purpose and one purpose only --- to persuade you to buy something you don't need. If you do need it, you already know that.

Nothing about commercial advertising requires "facts", and there ain't no vetting thereof IN it. You don't get "information" out of an ad --- if you think you do you're a fucking idiot.

 

[buckeye45_73]

I know you know about the commercial but I'll humor you. This actually ran on TV.

Exactly what part of "I don't own a TV" continues to fly over your head here?

No I've never seen that. Didn't see Paul Ryan though. Was that him rolling the wheelchair?

Now what's this got to do with this thread?

Are you really this dumb?
Ok fior the tv, why are you talking about tv adds if you don't watch tv?

Because it's WHAT THE FUCKING THREAD IS ABOUT, isn't it. Why do I need a TV to know how it works? I specifically don't have a TV because I do know what it is and how it works. That's exactly why I took it to the dump.

But if you comment on stuff, then say I don't know....it makes you look stupid.

Second, yes it was a guy in a suit and then it went to call Paul Ryan, did you not watch the video? You don't need a tv to watch YouTube

Again ---- another reason I took my TV to the dump. Doesn't give me anything with its conditions that I can't get without them.

Third, you said poor taste, which I showed you a commercial and you do the leftwing thing and ignore that point.......

It is in poor taste --- but what's your point here? I don't have any evidence that this ad ran on TV. I do have evidence that it was turned down as an ad. Same thing as the OP here --- again, that Wisconsin TV station isn't required to run an ad just because somebody comes waddling in with a check and a produced tape.

The problem with choosing not to air adds, is that it sets up for bias and control of information. I don't trust the media at all, as I should have that view. Look at colleges, they don't want anything opposing their leftwing ideas. They don't want speakers who oppose them and if you oppose them, they try and get you kicked out. That is not a free society where you debate ideas.....that's a third world banana republic.

Bull Shit.

Ads (it has one D) are not "information". Advertising exists for one purpose and one purpose only --- to persuade you to buy something you don't need. If you do need it, you already know that.

Nothing about commercial advertising requires "facts", and there ain't no vetting thereof IN it. You don't get "information" out of an ad --- if you think you do you're a fucking idiot.

OMG man, it's how people hear from candidates. you lefties are really opposed to getting info or marketing materials about people out and then debate them. I mean I guess it's ok if you like the Soviet style of politics.

 

[Pogo]

Exactly what part of "I don't own a TV" continues to fly over your head here?

No I've never seen that. Didn't see Paul Ryan though. Was that him rolling the wheelchair?

Now what's this got to do with this thread?

Are you really this dumb?
Ok fior the tv, why are you talking about tv adds if you don't watch tv?

Because it's WHAT THE FUCKING THREAD IS ABOUT, isn't it. Why do I need a TV to know how it works? I specifically don't have a TV because I do know what it is and how it works. That's exactly why I took it to the dump.

But if you comment on stuff, then say I don't know....it makes you look stupid.

Second, yes it was a guy in a suit and then it went to call Paul Ryan, did you not watch the video? You don't need a tv to watch YouTube

Again ---- another reason I took my TV to the dump. Doesn't give me anything with its conditions that I can't get without them.

Third, you said poor taste, which I showed you a commercial and you do the leftwing thing and ignore that point.......

It is in poor taste --- but what's your point here? I don't have any evidence that this ad ran on TV. I do have evidence that it was turned down as an ad. Same thing as the OP here --- again, that Wisconsin TV station isn't required to run an ad just because somebody comes waddling in with a check and a produced tape.

The problem with choosing not to air adds, is that it sets up for bias and control of information. I don't trust the media at all, as I should have that view. Look at colleges, they don't want anything opposing their leftwing ideas. They don't want speakers who oppose them and if you oppose them, they try and get you kicked out. That is not a free society where you debate ideas.....that's a third world banana republic.

Bull Shit.

Ads (it has one D) are not "information". Advertising exists for one purpose and one purpose only --- to persuade you to buy something you don't need. If you do need it, you already know that.

Nothing about commercial advertising requires "facts", and there ain't no vetting thereof IN it. You don't get "information" out of an ad --- if you think you do you're a fucking idiot.

OMG man, it's how people hear from candidates. you lefties are really opposed to getting info or marketing materials about people out and then debate them. I mean I guess it's ok if you like the Soviet style of politics.

Dood, you have got to be THE world's densest retard.

*******NOBODY ANYWHERE******* is fucking required to run ANY commercial spot for anything just because some klown asks to buy the time. THAT'S NOT HOW THE WORLD WORKS.

NOR is it "how people hear from candidates". Ever hear of campaign speeches? Ever hear of direct mail? Ever hear of debates? Ever hear of "websites". Get the FUCK outta here.

 

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