I suppose it does provide a smokescreen. If Trumpsters can always fall back on "he's just trolling", they never have to take responsibility for the fucked up shit he IS serious about.
Donald Trump says ‘economic force’ could be used to eliminate ‘artificially drawn’ border between Canada and U.S.
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Lol, you can add all of the monikers you want. Knock yourself out! People are silly if they think the US is going to take over canada.....
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This isn't about common sense people taking YOUR Troll supposedly serious (at least not on my behalf) - but they are serious about the DAMAGE this Troll is going to inflict upon the USA with his moronic policies and statements.
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Lol, just rest comfortable that canada is not going to be a part of the US. Not now, not 4 years from now, not ever..
It would great to have a court that is higher than the US supreme court which cases could be appealed too...
Unfortunately for the MAGA these courts are highly impartial and could cause some problems for them.
One of the most powerful aspect of the EU is the ECJ (European court of Justice), this sits over the national supreme courts and allows citizens of the EU to appeal above there own governments. It is fundamental in how it stop EU country governments over powering their own citizens... Bring it on I say...
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No one suggested that America was going to take over Canada. Where are you extracting such an opinion from?
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You don't get it do you? the international communities reaction, and thus the resulting damage onto the USA's economy and it's political standing, has already been done due to your Trolls statements. You must be totally naive to believe that the US economy is self sufficient/reliant.
I have said this many times... Whe Trump pulled out of the TPP the way he did, he became the most pro-China Us President in history.
China won and US lost that day... Self inflicted...
US leaving TPP: A great news day for China
US President-elect Donald Trump is giving a leg up to China in the great power game in Asia by withdrawing from the TPP.
www.bbc.com
Trump withdrawal from Asia trade deal a boon for China
US President Donald Trump yanked the United States out of a major Pacific trade deal Monday, making good on an election campaign promise and delivering a hammer blow to Asian allies
www.scmp.com
President Trump Kills TPP, Giving China Its First Big Win
President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Monday ending the United States' participation in the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a sweeping trade pact negotiated with 11 other nations. It was neither ratified by American lawmakers nor expected to pass a vote in Congress. But Trump chose to...
www.ndtv.com
China was very fearful of TPP... It was set up by Bush Jr and continued through Obama and it had a more work to be done but it was shaping up nicely to curb not just China but other BRIC countries as well...
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You honestly believe that the ECJ is impartial/neutral???
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Huh? Read these forums, the news, hell, even this thread..
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How has our economy been harmed by his statements of acquiring canada.
Go on... Show us your proof...
They read the law and implement it... The EU constitution and laws is way longer than US...
"There are no cuts to the EU's 97,000 pages of accumulated laws and regulations."
This means Judges have far less interpretation.
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You are stating it to me specifically. I dont think he is "going to take over" Canada. He might try to strike a deal but he isn't sdoing anything by force or sending the military in,.
It reduces US soft power around the world...
US soft power is where US real power is...
The Soft War That America Is Losing
There was a time when Bill Clinton told another country what to do and they were happy they asked.
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I don't even think he will strike a deal. I think it's absurd on its face...personally..
Pretty Trump suggested a number of times now...
Is Trump now 'No One' !!!!
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It reduces US soft power around the world...
US soft power is where US real power is...
The Soft War That America Is Losing
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There was a time when Bill Clinton told another country what to do and they were happy they asked.
Your Goodwill and support for human rights and your constitution dwarfs even money spent on other nations. That money spent always has to continue or the receiving nation just walks away. When you stand up for principle, you attract the hearts and minds of the people. Millions more people in numbers than members of those in oppressive governments.
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In many ways - as it is allays the case of a county that is interwoven and reliant onto the global economy
E.g. The US stock market - fell upon his statements
The US$'s buying power will therefore decline
Foreign investors might very well - hold back or even cancel planed investments into the USA.
Etc, etc,
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Dementia addled orange fuckupI can tell you who is sweating the most in Canada, Doug Ford the Premier as it appears Trump is serious about the tariffs. I cannot imagine he would repeat this position unless Trump meant it.
Nobody on earth can say I didn't warn our leaders as far back as Harper if we didn't find common ground and shared Values. Harpers first term was solid, his second term was a waste. He had an opportunity to expand civil liberties in Canada and embrace a more "Republic" approach to citizens rights, but he failed.
Now Ford loudly declared that he would stop sending energy to states like Michigan if Trump applied tariffs. Even the Premier of Alberta warned against such an unrepentant approach. What a poor decision to make under duress.
This is how you know some people are surrounded by cops in the most bullying province (along with Quebec) in the country. Covert cops destroying lives, careers, our reputation and economy and this guy walks around as if in uniform himself whacking his night stick against the most vulnerable homeless people in Ontario but lashing out in anger when a bigger dog bites back.
Ford ran some label company if my memory serves correct and he considers himself an equal when dealing with Trump. Meanwhile Trump has had 1000s of LLCs, built a global empire, his own social media and now president...twice. The response from a Premier in a province fully beholden to the U.S is to say "how dare you tariff us, we will just raise the ante significantly and not send you energy!" That's now how you treat a nation that has treated Ontario VERY well. You find a tariff of your own or try and negotiate, you don't deny reality of the imbalance and threaten to cause great harm to U.S citizens.
Trump doesn't seem like the type who wouldn't be informed of this threat and who wouldn't respond to such a threat by applying the very tariff our Premier pretended he could prevent with such an increase in response. These are the greatest minds we can offer folks. You would think this country could raise the prospects of those who understand Americans through multiple conversations over decades, instead they lift up the captains of the police who prevent the nation from succeeding.
Many Canadian authorities from the RCMP on down to the OPP and TPS only seem to do well when they have other creepy Canadians (and American police who are anti-liberty) helping them...
This nation should consider hiring those who understand America better than they do.
Donald Trump says ‘economic force’ could be used to eliminate ‘artificially drawn’ border between Canada and U.S.
Justin Trudeau said Tuesday "there isn't a snowball's chance in hell" that Canada would become the 51st American state.www.thestar.com
Earlier in the day, the incoming president was asked whether he would consider using “military force” to annex Canada, given Trump’s refusal to rule out resorting to such measures to secure control of Greenland and the Panama Canal.
“No. Economic force, because Canada and the United States, that would really be something,” Trump said at a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla.
“You get rid of that artificially drawn line, and you take a look at what that looks like … it would also be much better for national security.”
Trump went on to state that the U.S. spends “hundreds of billions” of dollars to “protect” and “take care of Canada,” clarifying that while the U.S. has “no right” to claim a sovereign nation, Canada should simply become an American state if it is receiving so much support from its southern neighbour.
Trump said he asked Trudeau, during the prime minister’s trip to Florida in late November, what would happen if the U.S. were to no longer “subsidize” Canada. Last year, according to American data, the U.S. trade deficit in goods with Canada as of November was around $55 billion USD.
“I said, ‘What would happen if we didn’t do it?’ He said, ‘Canada would dissolve,’” said Trump, who also told reporters he still believes hockey legend Wayne Gretzky should be prime minister.
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