Donald Trump says ‘economic force’ could be used to eliminate ‘artificially drawn’ border between Canada and U.S.

It's not taking canada by force that bothers me - though we've failed twice already - but what the hell would we do with you canadians?
Trump should just go after Alberta.
 
Some countries are already starting to debank people who refuse to provide their fingerprints in their bank apps.

Lots of crazy stuff going on... and it appears to be accelerating.

I've said this before (a guh-zillion times) but it bears repeating. We're living in a time of great deception, and people need to understand that the enemy doesn't show up looking like the enemy, the enemy disguises itself to appear as the exact opposite. Remember the quote about vigilance? A lot of folks seem to have forgotten that.
 
Does the Bakan field extend into Saskatchewan? I thought so, but I thought Canada more or less just had tar sand. More trouble than it's worth. Although if we didn't have to pay them for it .....
 
Any boundary line based on latitude is artificially drawn, and it is nonproductive to interdependent economic activities. That can be remedied by an economic union, but not necessarily a political union.
 
If I were Canadian, I'd balk at joining a nation so deeply in debt.
That is largely a matter of the currency being used. The US dollar is still much stronger than the Canadian dollar.
 
Actually, I don't. That's the problem. Trumpsters have no consistent ideology. They flip and flop with the breeze, or more accurately, with the whim of the Donald.

I do know that you've abandoned core conservative values like limited government and free markets.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Donald Trump is the most conservative US President since Ronald Reagan. He is also the most limited government President I've ever voted for. He cuts regulations far more than any President I've seen in my lifetime. His economic policies favor the American marketplace, as opposed to the globalist Democrat's policies that allow foreign markets to take advantage of the US.

Folks like you seem to be lacking the discrimination to be able to tell one party from the other, so you sit on the fence and throw rocks at both sides. That's nothing but a pure narcissistic view that allows you to act like you're above the fray, therefore never having to accept any responsibility. Then when election time comes around, you jump in line behind some unknown loser who doesn't have an ice cube's chance in hell of winning anything, just so you can smugly criticize both sides.

I am a Republican. That is my political identity. I have an actual party that I support, with a tangible direction I want to see this country move. So I will continue to support Donald J. Trump and those aligned with him in my party, and ignore the same bullshit I heard the first time he served as President.
 
You have no idea what you're talking about. Donald Trump is the most conservative US President since Ronald Reagan. He is also the most limited government President I've ever voted for. He cuts regulations far more than any President I've seen in my lifetime. His economic policies favor the American marketplace, as opposed to the globalist Democrat's policies that allow foreign markets to take advantage of the US.
Tariffs are not free market policies. Abortion bans are not limited government. Anti-woke policies are every bit as intrusive as woke policies. He's never really tried to get rid of ACA. Loves him some deficit spending. Supports prices controls on prescription drugs. Wants to punish social media that doesn't support him.

I could go on, but you'll just put your fingers in your ears and call me a leftist, so why bother?
Folks like you seem to be lacking the discrimination to be able to tell one party from the other, so you sit on the fence and throw rocks at both sides.
I can tell them apart. But they both suck, and they both share the conviction that the state should dictate societal norms. Both are 'all-in' on the culture war.
That's nothing but a pure narcissistic view that allows you to act like you're above the fray, therefore never having to accept any responsibility.
Huh? Narcissistic??? Responsibility? My responsibility is to vote my conscience, and to refuse to vote for bad candidates. When will you idiots take some responsibility for the fools you elect???
I am a Republican. That is my political identity.
I'm a US citizen. That's my political "identity". I'm not voting for your shitty candidates. Do better.
 
I can tell you who is sweating the most in Canada, Doug Ford the Premier as it appears Trump is serious about the tariffs. I cannot imagine he would repeat this position unless Trump meant it.

Nobody on earth can say I didn't warn our leaders as far back as Harper if we didn't find common ground and shared Values. Harpers first term was solid, his second term was a waste. He had an opportunity to expand civil liberties in Canada and embrace a more "Republic" approach to citizens rights, but he failed.

Now Ford loudly declared that he would stop sending energy to states like Michigan if Trump applied tariffs. Even the Premier of Alberta warned against such an unrepentant approach. What a poor decision to make under duress.

This is how you know some people are surrounded by cops in the most bullying province (along with Quebec) in the country. Covert cops destroying lives, careers, our reputation and economy and this guy walks around as if in uniform himself whacking his night stick against the most vulnerable homeless people in Ontario but lashing out in anger when a bigger dog bites back.

Ford ran some label company if my memory serves correct and he considers himself an equal when dealing with Trump. Meanwhile Trump has had 1000s of LLCs, built a global empire, his own social media and now president...twice. The response from a Premier in a province fully beholden to the U.S is to say "how dare you tariff us, we will just raise the ante significantly and not send you energy!" That's now how you treat a nation that has treated Ontario VERY well. You find a tariff of your own or try and negotiate, you don't deny reality of the imbalance and threaten to cause great harm to U.S citizens.

Trump doesn't seem like the type who wouldn't be informed of this threat and who wouldn't respond to such a threat by applying the very tariff our Premier pretended he could prevent with such an increase in response. These are the greatest minds we can offer folks. You would think this country could raise the prospects of those who understand Americans through multiple conversations over decades, instead they lift up the captains of the police who prevent the nation from succeeding.

Many Canadian authorities from the RCMP on down to the OPP and TPS only seem to do well when they have other creepy Canadians (and American police who are anti-liberty) helping them...

This nation should consider hiring those who understand America better than they do.


Earlier in the day, the incoming president was asked whether he would consider using “military force” to annex Canada, given Trump’s refusal to rule out resorting to such measures to secure control of Greenland and the Panama Canal.

“No. Economic force, because Canada and the United States, that would really be something,” Trump said at a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla.

“You get rid of that artificially drawn line, and you take a look at what that looks like … it would also be much better for national security.”
Trump went on to state that the U.S. spends “hundreds of billions” of dollars to “protect” and “take care of Canada,” clarifying that while the U.S. has “no right” to claim a sovereign nation, Canada should simply become an American state if it is receiving so much support from its southern neighbour.

Trump said he asked Trudeau, during the prime minister’s trip to Florida in late November, what would happen if the U.S. were to no longer “subsidize” Canada. Last year, according to American data, the U.S. trade deficit in goods with Canada as of November was around $55 billion USD.

“I said, ‘What would happen if we didn’t do it?’ He said, ‘Canada would dissolve,’” said Trump, who also told reporters he still believes hockey legend Wayne Gretzky should be prime minister.
...seriously? We're not taking over Canada, ok? You all can just stop all that silliness. Sometimes I think trump just trolls people.
 
I can tell you who is sweating the most in Canada, Doug Ford the Premier as it appears Trump is serious about the tariffs. I cannot imagine he would repeat this position unless Trump meant it.

Nobody on earth can say I didn't warn our leaders as far back as Harper if we didn't find common ground and shared Values. Harpers first term was solid, his second term was a waste. He had an opportunity to expand civil liberties in Canada and embrace a more "Republic" approach to citizens rights, but he failed.

Now Ford loudly declared that he would stop sending energy to states like Michigan if Trump applied tariffs. Even the Premier of Alberta warned against such an unrepentant approach. What a poor decision to make under duress.

This is how you know some people are surrounded by cops in the most bullying province (along with Quebec) in the country. Covert cops destroying lives, careers, our reputation and economy and this guy walks around as if in uniform himself whacking his night stick against the most vulnerable homeless people in Ontario but lashing out in anger when a bigger dog bites back.

Ford ran some label company if my memory serves correct and he considers himself an equal when dealing with Trump. Meanwhile Trump has had 1000s of LLCs, built a global empire, his own social media and now president...twice. The response from a Premier in a province fully beholden to the U.S is to say "how dare you tariff us, we will just raise the ante significantly and not send you energy!" That's now how you treat a nation that has treated Ontario VERY well. You find a tariff of your own or try and negotiate, you don't deny reality of the imbalance and threaten to cause great harm to U.S citizens.

Trump doesn't seem like the type who wouldn't be informed of this threat and who wouldn't respond to such a threat by applying the very tariff our Premier pretended he could prevent with such an increase in response. These are the greatest minds we can offer folks. You would think this country could raise the prospects of those who understand Americans through multiple conversations over decades, instead they lift up the captains of the police who prevent the nation from succeeding.

Many Canadian authorities from the RCMP on down to the OPP and TPS only seem to do well when they have other creepy Canadians (and American police who are anti-liberty) helping them...

This nation should consider hiring those who understand America better than they do.


Earlier in the day, the incoming president was asked whether he would consider using “military force” to annex Canada, given Trump’s refusal to rule out resorting to such measures to secure control of Greenland and the Panama Canal.

“No. Economic force, because Canada and the United States, that would really be something,” Trump said at a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla.

“You get rid of that artificially drawn line, and you take a look at what that looks like … it would also be much better for national security.”
Trump went on to state that the U.S. spends “hundreds of billions” of dollars to “protect” and “take care of Canada,” clarifying that while the U.S. has “no right” to claim a sovereign nation, Canada should simply become an American state if it is receiving so much support from its southern neighbour.

Trump said he asked Trudeau, during the prime minister’s trip to Florida in late November, what would happen if the U.S. were to no longer “subsidize” Canada. Last year, according to American data, the U.S. trade deficit in goods with Canada as of November was around $55 billion USD.

“I said, ‘What would happen if we didn’t do it?’ He said, ‘Canada would dissolve,’” said Trump, who also told reporters he still believes hockey legend Wayne Gretzky should be prime minister.
Next - France offers to protect Quebec's independence
 
Tariffs are not free market policies. Abortion bans are not limited government. Anti-woke policies are every bit as intrusive as woke policies. He's never really tried to get rid of ACA. Loves him some deficit spending. Supports prices controls on prescription drugs. Wants to punish social media that doesn't support him.

I could go on, but you'll just put your fingers in your ears and call me a leftist, so why bother?

I can tell them apart. But they both suck, and they both share the conviction that the state should dictate societal norms. Both are 'all-in' on the culture war.

Huh? Narcissistic??? Responsibility? My responsibility is to vote my conscience, and to refuse to vote for bad candidates. When will you idiots take some responsibility for the fools you elect???

I'm a US citizen. That's my political "identity". I'm not voting for your shitty candidates. Do better.

You shouldn't be talking about shitty candidates. I see you supported Jo Jorgensen in 2020, she's the perfect embodiment of "shitty candidates." The same non-partisan blather about legalizing drugs, turning America into a giant version of Switzerland, and closing military bases.

Geez, she lost every state, but she was popular with the stoners and alcoholics in Alaska. :laughing0301:
 
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You shouldn't be talking about shitty candidates. I see you supported Jo Jorgensen in 2020, she's the perfect embodiment of "shitty candidates." The same non-partisan blather about legalizing drugs, turning America into a giant version of Switzerland, and closing military bases.

Geez, she lost every state, but she was popular with the stoners and alcoholics in Alaska. :laughing0301:
Trump vs Harris

'nuff said.
 
**** Harris. No way she was gonna win.
LOL - here, the point you steer around: if Trump vs Harris is the best your two-party system can do - it's utterly broken. Stop supporting it.
 
...seriously? We're not taking over Canada, ok? You all can just stop all that silliness. Sometimes I think trump just trolls people.
So your Trump is a Troll,
been saying that all the time, now don't forget to add human scumbag, pathological fraudster, loudmouth, convicted felon and liar.
 
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