Donald Trump says ‘economic force’ could be used to eliminate ‘artificially drawn’ border between Canada and U.S.

[ThisIsMe]

So, like the border wall?

Border wall was happening until democrats stopped it...then they decided it was a good idea and started to build it again...then they decided to sell off all the materials that the US had already purchased for the wall..

 

[dblack]

Border wall was happening until democrats stopped it...then they decided it was a good idea and started to build it again...then they decided to sell off all the materials that the US had already purchased for the wall..

Huh... not exactly clear.

What about the tariff threats. Are those real, or just trolling?

 

[lennypartiv]

We should make Canada a US territory, not a state. They should have the same status as Puerto Rico and not anything more.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Huh... not exactly clear.

What about the tariff threats. Are those real, or just trolling?

Those might be real, or at least they will IF they actually happen. Why are you going on about tariffs? We're talking about canada...

 

[buttercup]

 

[CowboyTed]

The EU constitution - the one e.g. France and Holland rejected?
Any regulating EU body - is installed, and run by the same national parties, as those of it's member-states.

Therefore the very same ****-ups and corrupt politicians exist in the EU - since they ALL derive from the member-states and their useless politicians. That corruption is rampant amongst EU politicians, just as those of the national parties is very well known in Europe.

EU Constitution was accepted by everyone eventually... There was negotiations but that is expected.. You think there was no negotiations and compromise when the US constitution was drafted? Everyone of the drafters of the US constituion compromised views when that document was written.
EU contries have a very different type of democracy to US... EU Citizens laugh how undemocratic US elections are... 'They get the choice of the lesser of two evils'... So we know why you think democracy doesn't work for you and is corrupt.

the most corrupt country in EU is easily Hungry run by Orban and EU would have cut him out long ago but they want the Hungarian youth to have hope. Orban has embezzled about 600m euro personally and much more with his family. The problem is that he made it legal within his country but the EU is catching up on him. Orban is starting to loose in opinion polls..

 

[dblack]

Those might be real, or at least they will IF they actually happen. Why are you going on about tariffs? We're talking about canada...

Well, we're discussing Trump's ambitions regarding Canada, and you're writing them off as trolling. I'm trying to figure out how to tell the difference between trump trolling, and trump saying something meaningful.

 

[CowboyTed]

We should make Canada a US territory, not a state. They should have the same status as Puerto Rico and not anything more.

Let's game this out...

US takes over Canada...

Canadians are pretty pissed at this because they don't want to be apart of the US and its poor Healthcare, Education standards, crap Environmental standards and US is also robbing their natural resources too...

An underground is formed. This underground would have access to resources worldwide because if US makes a success of invading Canada, where is next?
They would look for a game plan. Well there is one played out and shown to be very effective... IRA v UK (Northern Ireland troubles).
So what do they take from the lessons from that conflict...

Well the IRA bombed a lot of Northern Ireland and Shot soliders in the north and UK didn't care... Then the did some awful bombings in pubs and city centres killing civilians including children and that created more blow back.

But by accident, they blew up the Berring Exchange in London (were targeting the Liverpool St station next door). It closed the exchange for a 3 days. Quite quickly both sides discovered that single bomb cost more that the previous 30 years of violence put together.

So if US did that... Canadian supporters (underground) would target infrastructure and costly security...
Think about it... Park a truck downtown NYC and call in a bomb warning.. Clear every building for a number of blocks... Do it on a Sunday and let it off or Monday and it could be empty... Who knows... Suddenly NYC needs to place in a federally paid security ring around NYC... Imagine the cost or don't and ask London how much it was...

Next blow up Electricity lines.. Again security needed... NFL on Sunday, fly in a drone and say full of C4 and ball bearings... LAnd it on the field and say clear the field as you are denoting it 30min if no one goes near it...

This is not about winning but making the cost of victory so high it is not worth it.. The security bill could be costing US a trillion a year, severe curbing in individual freedom as searching has to be done everywhere.. Any bag left down would mean a clearing of a building..
US is particularly not set up for this type of conflict and that is before a massive misinformation campaign and cyberattacks start.. Just spread rumours that there is a bomb in Las Vegas this weekend and it would heavily effect numbers.

So invade Canada but expect the cost to be huge and the rest of the world would laugh in the full knowledge that you ain't doing that again.

 

[JohnDB]

Canada needs to deport its illegals the same as every other Westernized nation. It's got the same problems as other areas with Sharia law being enacted with burka and all the rest of it.

 

[Dragonlady]

This is incorrect as Canada purposely decreased the surplus in 2016 just before Trump took office to essentially counter his claim of Canadian surplus. In the months prior in 2016, Canada had a larger surplus, This was by design obviously.

Secondly, the surplus now isn't due to the new agreement, it is due to price of oil flying through the roof. This helped Canada obviously. Basically, your logic supports Trumps tariff demands as he will say "look at the massive imbalance, it's worse than ever thanks to Biden. We have to apply a tariff".

Canada needed to leverage Canadians like myself but itself they destroy them at a young age. Amazing really. What I could have achieved for Canadas economy and our relationship with the U,S when I worked at a U.S corporation in my 20s is immeasurable. Our own arrogant, unaccountable agencies are destroying this nation. Multiple careers, the hearing in one ear, my relationships with my friends and wife, they have done everything to harm me, Next, is their attempts to steal my home and render me homeless.

Really great people these Canadians eh? The same types who would collaborate with the enemy because they don't stand for principle, they stand for self gain only and piss on integrity.

The surplus is most definitely due to the new NAFTA agreement. Obama was REDUCING the US trade deficit worldwide.

More bullshit about evil Canada from our resident troll. And yet you post here with impunity. Why isn’t CSIS shutting you down and taking away your internet?

Canadians don't have to be comedians. You maple-syrup-sucking Hosers make me laugh without having to tell jokes. That's because you are the joke.

Now start paying up those tariffs before we come take your country away from you and send you back to England and France, where you came from. Except for shockedcanadian. He's a pretty cool guy, so he can stay.

 

[Dragonlady]

Let's game this out...

US takes over Canada...

Canadians are pretty pissed at this because they don't want to be apart of the US and its poor Healthcare, Education standards, crap Environmental standards and US is also robbing their natural resources too...

An underground is formed. This underground would have access to resources worldwide because if US makes a success of invading Canada, where is next?
They would look for a game plan. Well there is one played out and shown to be very effective... IRA v UK (Northern Ireland troubles).
So what do they take from the lessons from that conflict...

Well the IRA bombed a lot of Northern Ireland and Shot soliders in the north and UK didn't care... Then the did some awful bombings in pubs and city centres killing civilians including children and that created more blow back.

But by accident, they blew up the Berring Exchange in London (were targeting the Liverpool St station next door). It closed the exchange for a 3 days. Quite quickly both sides discovered that single bomb cost more that the previous 30 years of violence put together.

So if US did that... Canadian supporters (underground) would target infrastructure and costly security...
Think about it... Park a truck downtown NYC and call in a bomb warning.. Clear every building for a number of blocks... Do it on a Sunday and let it off or Monday and it could be empty... Who knows... Suddenly NYC needs to place in a federally paid security ring around NYC... Imagine the cost or don't and ask London how much it was...

Next blow up Electricity lines.. Again security needed... NFL on Sunday, fly in a drone and say full of C4 and ball bearings... LAnd it on the field and say clear the field as you are denoting it 30min if no one goes near it...

This is not about winning but making the cost of victory so high it is not worth it.. The security bill could be costing US a trillion a year, severe curbing in individual freedom as searching has to be done everywhere.. Any bag left down would mean a clearing of a building..
US is particularly not set up for this type of conflict and that is before a massive misinformation campaign and cyberattacks start.. Just spread rumours that there is a bomb in Las Vegas this weekend and it would heavily effect numbers.

So invade Canada but expect the cost to be huge and the rest of the world would laugh in the full knowledge that you ain't doing that again.

You forgot about French Canadians. The Emergency Measures Act was imposed in the 1970’s because the Quebec Separatists were kidnapping foreign diplomats and blowing up shit!!!

Just try to tell those people that English is the language of the land and see how far you get! They get to tell you what kind of school you can send your kids to in that province. If English isn’t your first language, your kids go to French school.

 

[shockedcanadian]

The surplus is most definitely due to the new NAFTA agreement. Obama was REDUCING the US trade deficit worldwide.

More bullshit about evil Canada from our resident troll. And yet you post here with impunity. Why isn’t CSIS shutting you down and taking away your internet?

Don't you worry. I went way above the heads of the police in Florida, New York and even the FBI (though they are aware in detail the truth and not the fallacies being promoted by the Canadian authorities).

If the annual State Department reports are any indication it appears I have been very effective. I hope destroying my life was worth it. Ontario and Canada have certainly not gained anything.

 

[Kruska]

You forgot about French Canadians. The Emergency Measures Act was imposed in the 1970’s because the Quebec Separatists were kidnapping foreign diplomats and blowing up shit!!!

Just try to tell those people that English is the language of the land and see how far you get! They get to tell you what kind of school you can send your kids to in that province. If English isn’t your first language, your kids go to French school.

As I had already jokingly stated:

Next: France has declared military support to Quebec

 

[Kruska]

EU Constitution was accepted by everyone eventually... There was negotiations but that is expected.. You think there was no negotiations and compromise when the US constitution was drafted? Everyone of the drafters of the US constituion compromised views when that document was written.
EU contries have a very different type of democracy to US... EU Citizens laugh how undemocratic US elections are... 'They get the choice of the lesser of two evils'... So we know why you think democracy doesn't work for you and is corrupt.

the most corrupt country in EU is easily Hungry run by Orban and EU would have cut him out long ago but they want the Hungarian youth to have hope. Orban has embezzled about 600m euro personally and much more with his family. The problem is that he made it legal within his country but the EU is catching up on him. Orban is starting to loose in opinion polls..

I happen to be a European - therefore I am absolutely aware that ALL European countries (sole exception being Switzerland) are FAKE democracies - and it's politicians are more corrupt then the general European citizen.

The EU constitution was NEVER ratified - due to France and Holland opposing it - therefore in 2009 it was replaced by the Treaty of Lisbon

The Treaty was signed on 29 October 2004 by representatives of the then 25 member states of the European Union. It was later ratified by 18 member states, which included referendums endorsing it in Spain and Luxembourg. However, the rejection of the document by French and Dutch voters in May and June 2005 brought the ratification process to an end.

Following a period of reflection, the Treaty of Lisbon was created to replace the Constitutional Treaty. This contained many of the changes that were originally placed in the Constitutional Treaty but, instead of repealing and replacing the existing treaties, simply amended them and abandoned the idea of a single codified constitution. Signed on 13 December 2007, the Lisbon Treaty entered into force on 1 December 2009.

BTW: The only citizen people that benefit from FAKE democracies are the political radicals - aka Lefty/Libs and right-wing nuts. Constantly pressing and imposing laws (due to those coalition governments) that only benefit their own kind - aka Minorities imposing their laws onto a Majority.

 

[Dragonlady]

Don't you worry. I went way above the heads of the police in Florida, New York and even the FBI (though they are aware in detail the truth and not the fallacies being promoted by the Canadian authorities).

If the annual State Department reports are any indication it appears I have been very effective. I hope destroying my life was worth it. Ontario and Canada have certainly not gained anything.

Shocked Canadian - a legend in his own mind!!!!

Trump renegotiated NAFTA and Canada went from an $11 billion trade deficit to a $100 billion trade deficit with Canada.

Trump is also the guy who pushed for higher oil prices so Americans would “drill baby drill” so if that pushed up the trade deficit, Trump was pretty stupid.

And please remember that Trump demanded a renegotiation of this agreement precisely because Canada and Mexico were “taking advantage” of the USA. Trump was going to end that.

Now Trump is promoting the lies that the USA is “subsidizing” Canada. Let’s be perfectly clear here: a trade deficit means that American companies have purchased goods or materials from Canada. It’s called the “free market”.

When you go to the grocery store and buy your groceries and give the store owner your money, you don’t falsely claim that you are “subsidizing” the grocery store owner. When you purchase goods or materials from Canadian companies, it’s a commercial transaction, not a subsidy.

There’s also a clause in Trump’s NAFTA 2.0 agreement, which prohibits member countries from issuing tarrifs against other members countries in the agreement, for any reason other than trade disputes.

So if Trump slaps tariffs on Canada or Mexico, he’s in violation of the Agreement he signed! Once again, proving that Donald Trump cannot be trusted in any deal or negotiation.

As for Panama, they’re suing the Trump corporation for tax evasion. That’s why he’s going after the canal. They took his hotel away from him too, and v locked him out.

Nobody carries a grudge like Donald Trump. And the world is laughing at you laughing out loud that you would turn your nation back over to thos clown show.

 

[Aldo Raine]

It is who you consider who is more important. Katie Couric or a person who cleans toilets. That is a reality.

They are of equal importance!

 

[dudmuck]

We should make Canada a US territory, not a state. They should have the same status as Puerto Rico and not anything more.

 

[JoeB131]

Don't you worry. I went way above the heads of the police in Florida, New York and even the FBI (though they are aware in detail the truth and not the fallacies being promoted by the Canadian authorities).

If the annual State Department reports are any indication it appears I have been very effective. I hope destroying my life was worth it. Ontario and Canada have certainly not gained anything.

Oh, I'm sure they had a good laugh at your expense, Snidley.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Oh, I'm sure they had a good laugh at your expense, Snidley.

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I'm sure a few did.

Those aren't the people I or anyone else should worry about anyways. Nations collapse when cowards laugh at others who try and spread the truth. I want to reach people who care about principle over their the paychecks from a cult.

 

[JoeB131]

I'm sure a few did.

Those aren't the people I or anyone else should worry about anyways. Nations collapse when cowards laugh at others who try and spread the truth. I want to reach people who care about principle over their the paychecks from a cult.

The fact you are still whining bout it now, is what makes it funny.

So you were a big-mouthed kid who thought he could talk smack to a cop.

That was dumb. At some point, you should have grown up and said, "Man, I did a lot of stupid shit when I was young!" and be glad you lived to tell the tale.