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But you did in post #34 when you wrote, "the same way a person who claims to be a follower of Christ and understands to Whom He spent his entire life pointing would support a serial liar, cheat, and hate-filled bigot."

How do you reconcile there's no difference?


Because apparently the majority of American voters thought he was still a better choice than Harris despite everything you just said.
Nice weasel, but not good enough. I'm not referring to the majority of voters, I'm talking about supposed followers of Christ following a man with absolutely no morals.
You seem to want to justify your bigotries. Trolling me doesn't make your case at all.
 
And God allowed it all.

But it was really Democrats who perpetuated slavery, racism, bigotry and Jim Crow laws.
Horse shit.

And this clearly demonstrates what a pinhead you are.
 
Nice weasel, but not good enough. I'm not referring to the majority of voters, I'm talking about supposed followers of Christ following a man with absolutely no morals.
You seem to want to justify your bigotries. Trolling me doesn't make your case at all.
The majority of American voters that elected Trump includes Christians. It also includes everyone else who isn't a Christian that voted for Trump. And the reason they voted for Trump is that they all believed he was a better choice than Harris despite all your arguments against Trump.

I'm not justifying anything. I am stating the reality of the situation. But please do continue with your moral argument. It's hilarious to watch a moral relativist make morally absolute arguments. I'm cracking up over here. Let's keep it going.
 
The rights agenda of fascism, bigotry, racism, sexism, xenophobia, and white supremacy is anti God.
There are no black racists. They may be bigoted against whites and I see your point, but racism implies superiority of one race over another. You'll have to show me Blacks who feel their race is superior to others for it to be true.
 
And God allowed it all.

But it was really Democrats who perpetuated slavery, racism, bigotry and Jim Crow laws.
No it was not. Now I m tired of this lie. Republicans were complicit in each of these things. It was REPUBLICANS who tried protecting slavery by creating a constitutional amendment hoping to keep the south from seceeding. It was a Republican who ended reconstruction. Four out of the seven votes to confirm seprate but equal, the policy that made Jim Crow national was by Republicans. Stop lying about this, because todays Repubicn party is full of racists, starting with the president.
 
Horse shit.

And this clearly demonstrates what a pinhead you are.
No. Recorded factual history.

Very few people today know that in 1808 Congress abolished the slave trade. That's because by the 1820's, most of the Founding Fathers were dead and Thomas Jefferson's party, the Democratic Party, which was founded in 1792, had become the majority party in Congress. With this new party a change in congressional policy on slavery emerged. The 1789 law that prohibited slavery in federal territory was reversed when the Democratic Congress passed the Missouri Compromise in 1820. Several States were subsequently admitted as slave States. Slavery was being officially promoted by congressional policy by a Democratically controlled Congress.

Missouri Compromise - Wikipedia

16th United States Congress - Wikipedia


The Democratic party policy of promoting slavery ignored the principles in the founding document.

"The first step of the slaveholder to justify by argument the peculiar institutions [of slavery] is to deny the self-evident truths of the Declaration of Independence. He denies that all men are created equal. He denies that they have inalienable rights." President John Quincy Adams, The Hingham Patriot, June 29, 1839

In 1850 the Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. That law required Northerners to return escaped slaves back into slavery or pay huge fines. The Fugitive Slave Law made anti-slavery citizens in the North and their institutions responsible for enforcing slavery. The Fugitive Slave Law was sanctioned kidnapping. The Fugitive Slave Law was disastrous for blacks in the North. The Law allowed Free Blacks to be carried into slavery. 20,000 blacks from the North left the United States and fled to Canada. The Underground Railroad reached its peak of activity as a result of the Fugitive Slave Law.

Fugitive Slave Act - 1850

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850

Fugitive Slave Act

31st United States Congress - Wikipedia In 1854, the Democratically controlled Congress passed another law strengthening slavery, the Kansas-Nebraska act. Even though slavery was expanded into federal territories in 1820 by the Democratically controlled Congress, a ban on slavery was retained in the Kansas Nebraska territory. But through the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Democrats vastly expanded the national area where slavery was permitted as the Kansas and Nebraska territories comprised parts of Colorado, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Idaho. The Democrats were pushing slavery westward across the nation.

The History Place - Abraham Lincoln: Kansas-Nebraska Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas–Nebraska_Act

Frederick Douglas believed that the 3/5th clause is an anti-slavery clause. Not a pro-slavery clause. Frederick Douglas believed that the Constitution was an anti-slavery document.

(1860) Frederick Douglass, “the Constitution of the United States: Is It Pro-Slavery or Anti-slavery?” | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed

What Did Frederick Douglass Believe About the U.S. Constitution? | The Classroom | Synonym

http://townhall.com/columnists/kenb...onstitution_did_not_condone_slavery/page/full

And so did others.

In May of 1854, following the passage of these pro-slavery laws in Congress, a number of anti-slavery Democrats along with some anti-slavery members from other parties, including the Whigs, Free-Soilers, and Emancipationists formed a new party to fight slavery and secure equal civil rights. The name of the new party? The Republican Party. It was named the Republican Party because they wanted to return to the principles of freedom set forth in the governing documents of the Republic before pro-slavery members of Congress had perverted those original principles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Republican_Party

Republican Party founded - Mar 20, 1854 - HISTORY.com

Republican Party - The Republican Party In The New Millennium

The Rise and Fall of Jim Crow. Jim Crow Stories . Republican Party | PBS

"The Democratic Party had become the dominant political party in America in the 1820s, [30] and in May 1854, in response to the strong pro-slavery positions of the Democrats, several anti-slavery Members of Congress formed an anti-slavery party – the Republican Party. [31] It was founded upon the principles of equality originally set forth in the governing documents of the Republic. In an 1865 publication documenting the history of black voting rights, Philadelphia attorney John Hancock confirmed that the Declaration of Independence set forth “equal rights to all. It contains not a word nor a clause regarding color. Nor is there any provision of the kind to be found in the Constitution of the United States.”

The History of Black Voting Rights [Great read!]

In 1856, the Democratic platform strongly defended slavery. According to the Democrats of 1856, ending slavery would be dangerous and would ruin the happiness of the people.

“All efforts of the abolitionists... are calculated to lead to the most alarming and dangerous consequences and all such efforts have an inevitable tendency to diminish the happiness of the people.” McKee, The National...Platforms, Democratic Platform of 1856, p.91

In 1857, a Democratically controlled Supreme Court delivered the Dred Scott decision, declaring that blacks were not persons or citizens but instead were property and therefore had no rights. In effect, Democrats believed slaves were property that could be disposed of at the will of its owner.

Democrats on the Court announced that "blacks had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the Negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit. He was bought and sold, and treated as an ordinary article of merchandise and traffic, whenever a profit could be made by it." Dred Scott at 407 (1856)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

The History Place - Abraham Lincoln: Dred Scott Decision

Dred Scott

Dred Scott: Democratic Reaction

The Democratic Platform for 1860 supported both the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 and the Dred Scott decision of 1857. The Democrats even handed out copies of the Dred Scott decision with their platform to affirm that it was proper to hold African Americans in bondage.

2. Inasmuch as difference of opinion exists in the Democratic party as to the nature and extent of the powers of a Territorial Legislature, and as to the powers and duties of Congress, under the Constitution of the United States, over the institution of slavery within the Territories, Resolved, That the Democratic party will abide by the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States upon these questions of Constitutional Law.

6. Resolved, That the enactments of the State Legislatures to defeat the faithful execution of the Fugitive Slave Law, are hostile in character, subversive of the Constitution, and revolutionary in their effect.

Avalon Project - Democratic Party Platform; June 18, 1860

The Republican platform of 1860, on the other hand, blasted both the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 and the Dred Scott decision of 1857 and announced its continued intent to end slavery and secure equal civil rights for black Americans.

2. That the maintenance of the principles promulgated in the Declaration of Independence and embodied in the Federal Constitution, "That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed," is essential to the preservation of our Republican institutions; and that the Federal Constitution, the rights of the states, and the Union of the states, must and shall be preserved.

5. That the present Democratic Administration has far exceeded our worst apprehension in its measureless subserviency to the exactions of a sectional interest, as is especially evident in its desperate exertions to force the infamous Lecompton constitution upon the protesting people of Kansas - in construing the personal relation between master and servant to involve an unqualified property in persons - in its attempted enforcement everywhere, on land and sea, through the intervention of congress and of the federal courts, of the extreme pretensions of a purely local interest, and in its general and unvarying abuse of the power entrusted to it by a confiding people.

7. That the new dogma that the Constitution of its own force carries slavery into any or all of the territories of the United States, is a dangerous political heresy, at variance with the explicit provisions of that instrument itself, with cotemporaneous exposition, and with legislative and judicial precedent, is revolutionary in its tendency and subversive of the peace and harmony of the country.

8. That the normal condition of all the territory of the United States is that of freedom; that as our republican fathers, when they had abolished slavery in all our national territory, ordained that no "person should be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law," it becomes our duty, by legislation, whenever such legislation is necessary, to maintain this provision of the constitution against all attempts to violate it; and we deny the authority of congress, of a territorial legislature, or of any individuals, to give legal existence to slavery in any territory of the United States.

9. That we brand the recent re-opening of the African Slave Trade, under the cover of our national flag, aided by perversions of judicial power, as a crime against humanity, and a burning shame to our country and age, and we call upon congress to take prompt and efficient measures for the total and final suppression of that execrable traffic.

10. That in the recent vetoes by the federal governors of the acts of the Legislatures of Kansas and Nebraska, prohibiting slavery in those territories, we find a practical illustration of the boasted democratic principle of non- intervention and popular sovereignty, embodied in the Kansas-Nebraska bill, and a demonstration of the deception and fraud involved therein.
Republican Party National Platform, 1860


Republicans freed the slaves, Democrats in the North and the South fought against it.

January 31, 1865
13th Amendment banning slavery was passed by U.S. House of Representatives with unanimous Republican support and intense Democrat opposition.

April 8, 1865
13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support and 63% Democrat opposition.

November 22, 1865
Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “Black Codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination.

February 5, 1866
U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves.

April 9, 1866
Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto, and the Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law.

May 10, 1866
U.S. House passes the Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens, with 100% of Democrats voting no.

June 8, 1866
U.S. Senate passes the Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens, where 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no.

January 8, 1867
Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C.

July 19, 1867
Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans.

March 30, 1868
Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men”.
 
No it was not. Now I m tired of this lie. Republicans were complicit in each of these things. It was REPUBLICANS who tried protecting slavery by creating a constitutional amendment hoping to keep the south from seceeding. It was a Republican who ended reconstruction. Four out of the seven votes to confirm seprate but equal, the policy that made Jim Crow national was by Republicans. Stop lying about this, because todays Repubicn party is full of racists, starting with the president.
Here's the recorded history.
 
The majority of American voters that elected Trump includes Christians. It also includes everyone else who isn't a Christian that voted for Trump. And the reason they voted for Trump is that they all believed he was a better choice than Harris despite all your arguments against Trump.

I'm not justifying anything. I am stating the reality of the situation. But please do continue with your moral argument. It's hilarious to watch a moral relativist make morally absolute arguments. I'm cracking up over here. Let's keep it going.
And I believe your so-called Christians are not followers of Christ to support a serial adulterer, compulsive liar, business cheat, admitted sexual predator, and hate-filled racist.
These aren't arguments against trump. These are truths.
 
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And I believe your so-called Christians are not followers of Christ to support a serial adulterer, compulsive liar, business cheat, admitted sexual predator, and hate-filled racist.
These aren't arguments against trump. These are truths.
And the majority of American voters voted for Trump despite everything yo say he did because they thought he would be a better choice than Harris.

You are trying to make a moral argument when it was a decision about which would make a better president for today. Need I remind you that Americans nuked two Japanese cities and firebombed Germany?
 
The majority of American voters that elected Trump includes Christians. It also includes everyone else who isn't a Christian that voted for Trump. And the reason they voted for Trump is that they all believed he was a better choice than Harris despite all your arguments against Trump.

I'm not justifying anything. I am stating the reality of the situation. But please do continue with your moral argument. It's hilarious to watch a moral relativist make morally absolute arguments. I'm cracking up over here. Let's keep it going.
The people made a mistake based on lies and disinformation. Trump has promised things, and he must now lower all prices, make housing affordable, end every war/conflict that's currently going on, and prevent others from happening before they start. We had a choice, you seem to forget this when you think the choice favors you. God gives us a choice, we either choose right or wrong. Satan influences our choices as well, and Satan will make his choice sound great and marvelous, but he wil never tell you the consequences of that choice. We chose trump, do not attach God to this choice. Christians can be and are fooled by Satan.
 
The people made a mistake based on lies and disinformation. Trump has promised things, and he must now lower all prices, make housing affordable, end every war/conflict that's currently going on, and prevent others from happening before they start. We had a choice, you seem to forget this when you think the choice favors you. God gives us a choice, we either choose right or wrong. Satan influences our choices as well, and Satan will make his choice sound great and marvelous, but he wil never tell you the consequences of that choice. We chose trump, do not attach God to this choice. Christians can be and are fooled by Satan.
That was their mistake to make. Only time will tell how it turns out.
 
Southerners were racists and fought to keep slavery. Northerners won the Civil War and freed the slaves.
To suggest it resembles a battle of modern-day Democrats vs Republicans demonstrates your interest in selling bullshit and arguing for its own sake. I'm done with you.
 
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There are no black racists. They may be bigoted against whites and I see your point, but racism implies superiority of one race over another. You'll have to show me Blacks who feel their race is superior to others for it to be true.
I am black and I have not stated that black racists exist. Blacks did not vote for trump, unless you count 12 percent as a majority.

What is called black racism is the reaction we have to the racism we face.
 
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OK you want to talk stupid. Because the Democrats of that time were the conservatives of today. The south was Democrat in those days, it is republican today. That is recorded history you Republicans dishonestly choose to ignore. But here is some recorded history you do not mention.

Point number 1: Republicans authored an amendment to officially make slavery a constitutionally protected activity. The Republican Party is the party of The Corwin Amendment that would have cemented slavery as a constitutional right.


Point number two: A Republican president, with the support of the Republican Party, ended reconstruction. The Republican Party is the party of the 1877 Compromise that ended reconstruction and paved the way for Jim Crow.


Point number three: Once blacks got a foothold in the Republican party and gained some semblance of political equality, white Republicans took steps to purge blacks from leadership positions. The Republican Party is the party of the Lily White movement, a group of Republicans who worked to purge blacks from the party.


Point number four: Republicans consistently broke promises or ignored issues that affected black people. When blacks got Civil Rights, the Republican Party did not believe that was civil or right and decided that extremism in defense of liberty was no vice. In 1964 the Republican Party turned its back on blacks after nearly 100 years of black support.




Point number five: Today’s Republican Party is controlled by a racist Anti-Black base.

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Very few people today know that in 1808 Congress abolished the slave trade.
The slave trade was not abolished in 1808. The importation of slaves was. The slave trade continued here until the end of the civil war.
 

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