Donald Trump and the ghosts of Rome

[g5000]

The better analogy of the fall of the Roman Republic. The Republic fell after nearly 500 years because its people lost faith in its institutions, and parties refused to compromise. Sound familiar? Wealth disparity and social unrest became untenable. The wealthy like Crassus and the powerful like Sulla and Caesar took advantage of the chaos to seize power. Republics fall because their citizens just don't care anymore.

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For many years, the Fake Right blamed the fall of Rome on homos.

Remember that?

Those days seem almost tame now.
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[22lcidw]

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For many years, the Fake Right blamed the fall of Rome on homos.

Remember that?

Those days seem almost tame now.
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Unfortunately, when nations die, the blame game starts. It is just who it is when the time comes.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

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America is crying out for democracy, sanity, and the rule of law.

Which is why Trump is more unpopular than ever.

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Trump is only unpopular among those that want democratic rule.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Donald Trump And The Ghosts Of Rome

Historians would bear me out when I say that when it comes to Donald Trump, his 'America First' rhetoric and highly publicized misconduct align him most closely with Nero, Rome's infamous emperor known for his ambition, controversies and self-promotion. Like Trump, Nero enjoyed a fiercely loyal support base, even as his reign sparked debates and divisions among elites and the general public. Nero's self-assured style, combined with frequent scandals, drew fascination and criticism alike, mirroring Trump's own complex legacy. Yet, Trump also shares similarities with the lesser-known Caligula, a Roman emperor infamous for his audacity and unconventional approach. Caligula challenged norms, defied Rome's elite, and pursued his vision regardless of tradition—traits that mirror Trump's own disregard for Washington conventions, deep state and norms. Both figures embody a “disruptor” quality that simultaneously captivated and unsettled their societies.

The Political Splintering​

Then there's the political strain. Rome was rife with infighting, corruption and self-serving elites. America isn't facing quite that level of chaos, but the increasing polarization and deadlock in Washington feel ominously familiar. The US society is divided vertically, with the middle ground shrinking very fast. It's crying out for national unity. Rome, too, fell prey to this kind of division, with competing interests ultimately undermining the empire's stability. Economically, both empires grapple with inequality. Rome's wealth disparity led to an unhappy, disenfranchised underclass, one that had little stake in the empire's survival. The US also faces stark inequalities, with wealth concentrated in the hands of a few. As Rome's elite thrived on the backs of the masses, America's billionaire class has seen its fortunes soar even as many Americans grapple with stagnant wages and dwindling social mobility. An empire is, after all, only as strong as the support it commands from its people.

Disunity is rampant and income inequality is at an all-time high. Trump is mirroring Nero and Caligula and those were bad signs then and bad sign now.

The empire to fall soon?

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A Zero Comparing a Hero to Nero

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why don't you move your ass to Moscow & take your evil MAGA cult with you?

That won't help destroy democrats and that's the goal.

 

[g5000]

The Empire will fall because of increasing Debt over decades .
To a level that is completely unsustainable .

Look at yesterday's humiliation from trying to sell 4 week Treasury bills -- !!!!!!!

Mucky Bum's schoolboy rhetoric ignores the obvious and is just more Un-american tripe and onions .

Treasury yields are moving higher. Demand for our debt is soft.

I guess all that bullshit bloviation about Trump surpluses isn't fooling the markets.

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[Clipper]

That won't help destroy democrats and that's the goal.

Well, thanks for making my point about MAGA's evilness. Makes ya proud.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Such drama. Such idiocy. We lived through 8 years of Obama, 8 of Clinton, 8 of Bush, 5 of Trump and 4 of Biden and 4 of the other Bush with the biggest issues being:

• Bush recession of 08
• Bush wars
• Covid
• Wealth inequity

Nothing else has been a big deal to this country. Acting like liberals are an issues is just jerk off material for you from the wealthy looking to distract you from their theft.

Democrats have gotten a lot crazier since Bush.

 

[g5000]

Acting like liberals are an issues is just jerk off material for you from the wealthy looking to distract you from their theft.

TRVTH

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The better analogy of the fall of the Roman Republic. The Republic fell after nearly 500 years because its people lost faith in its institutions, and parties refused to compromise. Sound familiar? Wealth disparity and social unrest became untenable. The wealthy like Crassus and the powerful like Sulla and Caesar took advantage of the chaos to seize power. Republics fall because their citizens just don't care anymore.

All Republics Go Bananas

Those who defend "representative" government are rotten fruit.

 

[Clipper]

Dude that's a no no on this forum

How many will die thanks to Trump's cuts to healthcare?

Notice his lackeys in Congress didn't cut THEIR bennies.

 

[g5000]

Trump is only unpopular among those that want democratic rule.

Yes. Democratic rule. Absolutely.

Not Democrat rule. They want democracy.

Let me see if I can follow your illogic.

Trump has an approval rating of 37%. Are you trying to tell me 63% of Americans want "democratic rule"?

If you mean democracy, sanity, and the rule of law, I would agree with you.

If you mean rule by the Democrats, you would obviously be wrong, and would be speaking from the basis of a false premise.

Trump is popular among those who want an autocracy.

Or worse.

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[The Sage of Main Street]

So, now Trump is Nero?

What happened to the "H" man?

How about calling him Hitro instead?

It's Neat to Be Benito

Could call him Mussolini, because beautiful women have always wanted to muss up his hair. Makes as much sense as other Dummycrat memes.

 

[g5000]

Why don't you move your ass to Moscow & take your evil MAGA cult with you?

Have you seen the story about the MAGA Moron who actually did move himself and his family to Russia?

Talk about shooting oneself in the face!

I pity his poor kids having to suffer because of his colossal credulity and stupidity.

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This Is the Most Exquisite Leopard Face-Eating You Will Ever See​

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Read the whole thing. Seriously. All of it.

Reality hit this MAGA idiot right between the eyes.

Classic.

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[Votto]

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Nah.

Trump is more like this guy:

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Should we now call Trump MusoHitro?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

There are variations in that direction. The Tytler Cycle is one.... it starts with and in some order moves from bondage to spiritual faith, to courage, to liberty, to abundance, to selfishness, to complacency, to apathy, to dependence and then to bondage again.

The Inevitable Expansion of Hereditary Power Caused All of History's Horrors

Imagine if pro athletes got to pass on their positions to their sons. Year by year HeirHead players' dominance would be greater, and the competence of the pros would be less. Finally, it would become such a joke it would be disbanded.

Despite the analyses of hired histwhorians, this cancer will eat away at America.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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Nah.

Trump is more like this guy:

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Buy, I'll bet you got about a billion SJW brownie points for that post.





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[Orangecat]

Historians would bear me out when I say that when it comes to Donald Trump,

Sorry, historians don't recognize irrelevant gnats, much less "bear them out".

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Yes. Democratic rule. Absolutely.

Not Democrat rule. They want democracy.

Let me see if I can follow your illogic.

Trump has an approval rating of 37%. Are you trying to tell me 63% of Americans want "democratic rule"?

If you mean democracy, sanity, and the rule of law, I would agree with you.
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If you mean rule by the Democrats, you wouurld obviously be wrong, and would be speaking from the basis of a false premise.

Trump is popular among those who want an autocracy.

Or worse.

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If you believe Trump's approval rating as you have given it, you will believe any claptrap democrats want to feed you.

Interestingly, the leaders of both Armenia and Azerbaijan named the new trade route after Trump due to his negotiating peace. Both leaders recommended him for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Trump is extremely popular in idaho. Boise is not a sanctuary city and will fully cooperate with ICE. the destructive wind farm has been stopped.

I'd like to see an honest non democratic poll, but that's not happening.

Pick a subject. Any subject. Democrats will lie about it.

 

[BothWings]

Nero was a homosexual .. that fact alone aligns him more with todays modern left .

Absolutely true. I was going to mention that myself. He waltzed around with young boys and had openly gay relationships with them in front of all the citizenry. He also killed his wife and mother and eventually himself, which I don't see a snowball's chance in hell of Trump doing.