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when wall st no longer gave donny cash - that's when he turned to foreign banks.
Stop. Just stop
View attachment 393980
Clue: get one today
i don't need a 'clue' ... there's 30 yrs of donny's business ' savvy ' to go by.
Which you only know about through our media. He is actually pretty savvy.
& how would you know otherwise?

read post #6.

he's claimed several bankruptcies ... for casinos ... where the business model is designed that the house wins. when one files for bankruptcy, the trickle down effect is tragic. his partners get ripped off, they lose money because he doesn't have to pay his bills - & they suffer.

several of his business ventures have gone belly up.


Trump’s failed businesses:

1. Trump Steaks

2. GoTrump

3. Trump Airlines

4. Trump Vodka

5. Trump Mortgage

6. Trump: The Game

7. Trump Magazine

8. Trump University

9. Trump Ice

10. The New Jersey Generals

11. Tour de Trump

12. Trump Network

13. Trumped!



Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

1. Trump Taj Mahal

2. Trump’s Castle

3. Trump Plaza Casinos

4. Trump Plaza Hotel

5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

6. Trump Entertainment Resorts

Here Are All of Trump’s Bankruptcies and Failed Businesses
Bankruptcies are a way to restructure to eliminate debt. Casinos are profitable but only if people go there and in large numbers. Sometimes failures make you better as you learn from your mistakes. Is there one Republican you do like? Just one? In Congress. Since you are an Independent.
currently?

no.

i did like ms lindsey until donny ripped his spine out & i actually considered voting for john huntsman in 2012.
So you are not an “Indy” as you call yourself. Which is fine. In the end we vote for somewhat selfish reasons. I am turning 40 in less than three weeks and my kids are nearing teenage years so my perspective is different from that of a retiree or a single young person who just graduated college or a new military cadet.

What is important IMO is to have an honest media. When don’t. Very shameful.
bullshit. the current crop of critters are not real (R)s... so there is that. where exactly do you get your news, zog? i already know one entity is FOX, but that can't be the only one.

anywhere else?
Dan Crenshaw
Sean Duffy
Nikki Haley
John James
Tim Scott
Jim Jordan

All real to me. Opinions vary. I get my news from the WSJ, Harvard Business Review, ACG and some industry sources that send me daily emails. I am also out and about although less so these days so I get it from people I see.

Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, Daily Wire, etc. none are unbiased. Only show I watch on Fox is The Five. I record it.
nikki haley? jim jordan???? smh...

'the five' ... is that where dr. oz showed up, cause you were alllllll about him not too long ago. the WSJ is top notch news wise, but their OP/ED is quite biased.
Never saw Dr. Oz there. They don’t have guests. I shake my head at you. Think about it. You think me a lesser person because I disagree with you politically. This is why we are so divided. Lack of respect. I am guilty of it too.
where did you see him then when he was pushing the glories of hydroxychloroquine that you constantly quoted?

i'm not sure 'lesser person' is accurate. more closer to bewilderment.
Video that was loaded somewhere here I believe. No no. You dehumanize those who disagree with you. At least own it. That is the roadmap for the left. And the media were a bunch of liars long before Trump ran for president.
i own everything i say.

you wanna lump yourself in with the likes of some others? then that's on you.
Some others? No idea what that even means. Do you agree or disagree that we should not demonize people for having disparate political beliefs. Yes or no?
it all depends on their replies ... hell, i was told that i should be shot for my views .... i don't do nicey nice with someone like that.
You’re deflecting. If I believe we should spend more on the military and that one cannot change their gender and you disagree. Is it OK for either of us to get demonized? I do not believe so. We all have logic behind why we believe what we believe sans that witch Penelope.
i'm not deflecting - i straight up answered you. i can disagree with you & visey versey without demonizing. it happens plenty of times ... it depends on the poster because of their history of replies not just to me, but with others they disagree with. believe it or not, i do get along fine with some here that i am polar opposites with politically.
 

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For years, Donald J Trump worked to maintain his facade as a hugely successful business mogul, implying since he was so successful, he ought to be able to run America too. Recently released tax returns spells out in black and white just how big a failure Donald Trump really is. Mr. Trump is drowning in crushing debt. He struggles to pay his bills, with many millions of $$ more are coming due to his creditors very soon.

How are Trump supporters going to react on election day as they now find out the "successful businessman" they voted for is one of the biggest business failures of all time??

Fact, he is in top 300 richest men alive.

Besides that fact, yeah sure he is a failure.

The leftist inversion is always getting crazier and crazier. They can not tell up from down. This is like saying Arnold was a weakling.
 

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when wall st no longer gave donny cash - that's when he turned to foreign banks.
Stop. Just stop
View attachment 393980
Clue: get one today
i don't need a 'clue' ... there's 30 yrs of donny's business ' savvy ' to go by.
Which you only know about through our media. He is actually pretty savvy.
& how would you know otherwise?

read post #6.

he's claimed several bankruptcies ... for casinos ... where the business model is designed that the house wins. when one files for bankruptcy, the trickle down effect is tragic. his partners get ripped off, they lose money because he doesn't have to pay his bills - & they suffer.

several of his business ventures have gone belly up.


Trump’s failed businesses:

1. Trump Steaks

2. GoTrump

3. Trump Airlines

4. Trump Vodka

5. Trump Mortgage

6. Trump: The Game

7. Trump Magazine

8. Trump University

9. Trump Ice

10. The New Jersey Generals

11. Tour de Trump

12. Trump Network

13. Trumped!



Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

1. Trump Taj Mahal

2. Trump’s Castle

3. Trump Plaza Casinos

4. Trump Plaza Hotel

5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

6. Trump Entertainment Resorts

Here Are All of Trump’s Bankruptcies and Failed Businesses
Bankruptcies are a way to restructure to eliminate debt. Casinos are profitable but only if people go there and in large numbers. Sometimes failures make you better as you learn from your mistakes. Is there one Republican you do like? Just one? In Congress. Since you are an Independent.
currently?

no.

i did like ms lindsey until donny ripped his spine out & i actually considered voting for john huntsman in 2012.
So you are not an “Indy” as you call yourself. Which is fine. In the end we vote for somewhat selfish reasons. I am turning 40 in less than three weeks and my kids are nearing teenage years so my perspective is different from that of a retiree or a single young person who just graduated college or a new military cadet.

What is important IMO is to have an honest media. When don’t. Very shameful.
bullshit. the current crop of critters are not real (R)s... so there is that. where exactly do you get your news, zog? i already know one entity is FOX, but that can't be the only one.

anywhere else?
Dan Crenshaw
Sean Duffy
Nikki Haley
John James
Tim Scott
Jim Jordan

All real to me. Opinions vary. I get my news from the WSJ, Harvard Business Review, ACG and some industry sources that send me daily emails. I am also out and about although less so these days so I get it from people I see.

Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, Daily Wire, etc. none are unbiased. Only show I watch on Fox is The Five. I record it.
nikki haley? jim jordan???? smh...

'the five' ... is that where dr. oz showed up, cause you were alllllll about him not too long ago. the WSJ is top notch news wise, but their OP/ED is quite biased.
Never saw Dr. Oz there. They don’t have guests. I shake my head at you. Think about it. You think me a lesser person because I disagree with you politically. This is why we are so divided. Lack of respect. I am guilty of it too.
where did you see him then when he was pushing the glories of hydroxychloroquine that you constantly quoted?

i'm not sure 'lesser person' is accurate. more closer to bewilderment.
Video that was loaded somewhere here I believe. No no. You dehumanize those who disagree with you. At least own it. That is the roadmap for the left. And the media were a bunch of liars long before Trump ran for president.
i own everything i say.

you wanna lump yourself in with the likes of some others? then that's on you.
Some others? No idea what that even means. Do you agree or disagree that we should not demonize people for having disparate political beliefs. Yes or no?
it all depends on their replies ... hell, i was told that i should be shot for my views .... i don't do nicey nice with someone like that.
You’re deflecting. If I believe we should spend more on the military and that one cannot change their gender and you disagree. Is it OK for either of us to get demonized? I do not believe so. We all have logic behind why we believe what we believe sans that witch Penelope.
i'm not deflecting - i straight up answered you. i can disagree with you & visey versey without demonizing. it happens plenty of times ... it depends on the poster because of their history of replies not just to me, but with others they disagree with. believe it or not, i do get along fine with some here that i am polar opposites with politically.
Name one. And I do not mean you and me only. In general the country is polarized. One can vote for Trump and not be a racist. One can support AOC and not be a communist. But many don’t see it that way.
 

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If true this is most unfortunate but I believe every American deserves corroboration and not plain belief of a newspaper story designed to garner eyeballs.
Okay. Here's how we can get Corroboration. Trump can release his tax returns like he's been promising to do for five years now. Like everyone else who has run for President since the 1970's has done.
Trump has declared the Times story “Fake News”

All he has to do is release anything in his tax returns from the last ten years to prove the Times is wrong.

He won’t do it.
How would his personal tax returns reflect the success and or failures of his corporate ventures? Please explain this one to me. Do Jamie Dimons PITRs explain how well or poorly JPMC has done the last 10 yrs?
His personal tax returns would prove the Times story is fake news.
Even if he released a part of a return showing the Times is making it up, he could humiliate the proud news organization.

He won’t do it because the Times is correct
True or false, we do not believe the New York Times. To many fabricated stories and lies with a one sided vengeance.
The New York Times has made Trumps tax returns available for review.

Trump refuses to prove them wrong, he wants us to take his word on it.
How do his personal tax returns reflect how his businesses did? You keep dodging that question.
Great Point!

As for the fella that's dodgin your great point.

A REAL TAX EXPERT, NOT FROM TWITTER UNIVERSITY, SPEAKS: No, You Idiots. That’s Not How Taxes Work. – An Accountant’s Guide To Why You Are a Gullible Moron.

Worth reading, but in my opinion this type of image is why he’s a RETIRED accountant and makes far bigger bucks off fiction:

Trump has those resources. He’s got a room full of accountants, and their leader is a grizzled old CPA with an eye patch and a raven who sits on his shoulder. The raven also has an eye patch and an accounting degree. This man has wrestled bears, and he’s going to take advantage of every tax break in the US Code for his client, and do so gleefully, knowing that many of those laws were signed by Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.
 

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when wall st no longer gave donny cash - that's when he turned to foreign banks.
Stop. Just stop
View attachment 393980
Clue: get one today
i don't need a 'clue' ... there's 30 yrs of donny's business ' savvy ' to go by.
Which you only know about through our media. He is actually pretty savvy.
& how would you know otherwise?

read post #6.

he's claimed several bankruptcies ... for casinos ... where the business model is designed that the house wins. when one files for bankruptcy, the trickle down effect is tragic. his partners get ripped off, they lose money because he doesn't have to pay his bills - & they suffer.

several of his business ventures have gone belly up.


Trump’s failed businesses:

1. Trump Steaks

2. GoTrump

3. Trump Airlines

4. Trump Vodka

5. Trump Mortgage

6. Trump: The Game

7. Trump Magazine

8. Trump University

9. Trump Ice

10. The New Jersey Generals

11. Tour de Trump

12. Trump Network

13. Trumped!



Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

1. Trump Taj Mahal

2. Trump’s Castle

3. Trump Plaza Casinos

4. Trump Plaza Hotel

5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

6. Trump Entertainment Resorts

Here Are All of Trump’s Bankruptcies and Failed Businesses
Bankruptcies are a way to restructure to eliminate debt. Casinos are profitable but only if people go there and in large numbers. Sometimes failures make you better as you learn from your mistakes. Is there one Republican you do like? Just one? In Congress. Since you are an Independent.
currently?

no.

i did like ms lindsey until donny ripped his spine out & i actually considered voting for john huntsman in 2012.
So you are not an “Indy” as you call yourself. Which is fine. In the end we vote for somewhat selfish reasons. I am turning 40 in less than three weeks and my kids are nearing teenage years so my perspective is different from that of a retiree or a single young person who just graduated college or a new military cadet.

What is important IMO is to have an honest media. When don’t. Very shameful.
bullshit. the current crop of critters are not real (R)s... so there is that. where exactly do you get your news, zog? i already know one entity is FOX, but that can't be the only one.

anywhere else?
Dan Crenshaw
Sean Duffy
Nikki Haley
John James
Tim Scott
Jim Jordan

All real to me. Opinions vary. I get my news from the WSJ, Harvard Business Review, ACG and some industry sources that send me daily emails. I am also out and about although less so these days so I get it from people I see.

Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, Daily Wire, etc. none are unbiased. Only show I watch on Fox is The Five. I record it.
nikki haley? jim jordan???? smh...

'the five' ... is that where dr. oz showed up, cause you were alllllll about him not too long ago. the WSJ is top notch news wise, but their OP/ED is quite biased.
Never saw Dr. Oz there. They don’t have guests. I shake my head at you. Think about it. You think me a lesser person because I disagree with you politically. This is why we are so divided. Lack of respect. I am guilty of it too.
where did you see him then when he was pushing the glories of hydroxychloroquine that you constantly quoted?

i'm not sure 'lesser person' is accurate. more closer to bewilderment.
Video that was loaded somewhere here I believe. No no. You dehumanize those who disagree with you. At least own it. That is the roadmap for the left. And the media were a bunch of liars long before Trump ran for president.
i own everything i say.

you wanna lump yourself in with the likes of some others? then that's on you.
Some others? No idea what that even means. Do you agree or disagree that we should not demonize people for having disparate political beliefs. Yes or no?
it all depends on their replies ... hell, i was told that i should be shot for my views .... i don't do nicey nice with someone like that.
You’re deflecting. If I believe we should spend more on the military and that one cannot change their gender and you disagree. Is it OK for either of us to get demonized? I do not believe so. We all have logic behind why we believe what we believe sans that witch Penelope.
i'm not deflecting - i straight up answered you. i can disagree with you & visey versey without demonizing. it happens plenty of times ... it depends on the poster because of their history of replies not just to me, but with others they disagree with. believe it or not, i do get along fine with some here that i am polar opposites with politically.
Name one. And I do not mean you and me only. In general the country is polarized. One can vote for Trump and not be a racist. One can support AOC and not be a communist. But many don’t see it that way.
how'z about 4 right off the top of my head?

lumpy
marion morrison
eagleyefleegle (sp?) although i'm not sure our views are completely polar.
gipper - ( he was a trump supporter at one time, then saw the light... however i can't remember agreeing with him on anything other than his opinion re: trump, but we get along just fine)

i told you b4 ... i don't lie.
 
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I was a successful Engineer and only have a six figure annual retirement.

However, I wish I was a business failure like Trump because then my retirement would be eight or nine figures.
 

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Trump has always thrived on being TRUMP

Now it is clear what a sham the TRUMP empire is
Well for a sham it looks pretty big to me. But then I'm not a biased Trump hater like you.
It is a house of cards....

Massively in debt
Losing money
Propped up by questionable loans


Who does our President owe money to?
America needs to know
 

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Trump has always thrived on being TRUMP

Now it is clear what a sham the TRUMP empire is
Well for a sham it looks pretty big to me. But then I'm not a biased Trump hater like you.
It is a house of cards....

Massively in debt
Losing money
Propped up by questionable loans


Who does our President owe money to?
America needs to know
Well for a guy who's massively in debt and losing money, according to your stupid ass, I wonder why he's a billionaire?

Of course businesses accrue debt. That's all businesses. Of course being the ass that you are you ignore that fact.

Carry on ass.
 

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Yes, due to a Chinese-created/released pandemic and the Democratic Party's intentional shutting down of the economy -- sacrificing American-owned small businesses and hamstringing / sabotaging the economy JUST to have a chance to regain power in November.

With a strong economy - which should be the goal of every Americans no matter what Party you belong to - the Democrats stood ZERO chance of winning in November. ...and you now it.
A couple of points here. Besides your paranoia about how this was a "Chinese Plot", businesses were closing down long before the Democratic governors ordered anything.

Second, Biden was leading Trump in all the polls before this happened. In fact, Trump has trailed Biden consistantly in the RCP average.

Let that sink in - the Democrats intentionally committed treason, betrayed Americans for their own gain. Whether it was shuttering small businesses facilitating domestic terrorists burning them down , destroying the economy and forcing minorities to become DEPENDENT on the Democrats' handouts again was /is key to the Democrats' survival.
Actually, it shows that there's nothing in it for most Americans in the "I've Got Mine, Fuck you" economics of Republicans. The reason why this recession hasn't been a LOT worse was because Trump went along with the Democrats on authorizing a lot of benefits. Kind of hard to argue that we should get our health care through employers when 40 million of us lose our jobs.

The thing is, this recession demonstrated that the "Trump Economy" was about as fake as his game show where washed up celebrities pretend to do business stuff.

The ironic thing is, it didn't have to be this way. You guys passed up 10 qualified governors and senators to nominate this clown.
 

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For years, Donald J Trump worked to maintain his facade as a hugely successful business mogul, implying since he was so successful, he ought to be able to run America too. Recently released tax returns spells out in black and white just how big a failure Donald Trump really is. Mr. Trump is drowning in crushing debt. He struggles to pay his bills, with many millions of $$ more are coming due to his creditors very soon.

How are Trump supporters going to react on election day as they now find out the "successful businessman" they voted for is one of the biggest business failures of all time??

The butt hurt is just flaming today, huh?

Try the cream for TDS release, I hear it works faster
Hey, thanks for the heads up on the "disagree." So you found the cream doesn't work faster for your TDS, huh? Thanks for letting me know, I'll be sure to let other TDS sufferers know that
 

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when wall st no longer gave donny cash - that's when he turned to foreign banks.
Stop. Just stop
View attachment 393980
Clue: get one today
i don't need a 'clue' ... there's 30 yrs of donny's business ' savvy ' to go by.
All you ever say is I HATE TRUMP! I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM. I WILL SPIN ANYTHING NEGATIVE AGAINST HIM. I WILL BELIEVE ANY ACCUSATION AGAINST HIM AND REPEAT AND REPEAT AND REPEAT. I HAAAAATTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEE HIM!

I mean if it makes you feel better to scream like a banshee about your hate all day long that's fine. But don't convince yourself that convincing anyone how much you hate Trump will make them hate him as well.

You would need rational and well reasoned arguments to do that
 

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Yes, due to a Chinese-created/released pandemic and the Democratic Party's intentional shutting down of the economy -- sacrificing American-owned small businesses and hamstringing / sabotaging the economy JUST to have a chance to regain power in November.

With a strong economy - which should be the goal of every Americans no matter what Party you belong to - the Democrats stood ZERO chance of winning in November. ...and you now it.
A couple of points here. Besides your paranoia about how this was a "Chinese Plot", businesses were closing down long before the Democratic governors ordered anything.

Second, Biden was leading Trump in all the polls before this happened. In fact, Trump has trailed Biden consistantly in the RCP average.

Let that sink in - the Democrats intentionally committed treason, betrayed Americans for their own gain. Whether it was shuttering small businesses facilitating domestic terrorists burning them down , destroying the economy and forcing minorities to become DEPENDENT on the Democrats' handouts again was /is key to the Democrats' survival.
Actually, it shows that there's nothing in it for most Americans in the "I've Got Mine, Fuck you" economics of Republicans. The reason why this recession hasn't been a LOT worse was because Trump went along with the Democrats on authorizing a lot of benefits. Kind of hard to argue that we should get our health care through employers when 40 million of us lose our jobs.

The thing is, this recession demonstrated that the "Trump Economy" was about as fake as his game show where washed up celebrities pretend to do business stuff.

The ironic thing is, it didn't have to be this way. You guys passed up 10 qualified governors and senators to nominate this clown.
A Chinese scientist from Wuhan has exposed the Chinese for creating and releasing the virus. Biden and Democrats are on record as having opposed life-saving travel bans and trying to block them. Democrats quickly 'flipped the switch' once they saw they could oppress the shit out of Americans, violating their Constitutional and Civil rights AND that they could wipe out a massive amount of gained minority successes and independence by closing small businesses.
- The GOP Governor from South Dakota is a prime example of what should have gone on - she treated her state's residents as ADULTS, not children, by keeping them thoroughly informed and allowing THEM to decide what to do.

Don't even TRY to act like Democrats did not go 'dictator' on the American people. One Democrat governor was asked point blank early on about his mandates, how they stacked up against the US Constitution. He admitted honestly (at least) that did not even consider the Constitution or Constitutional Rights when he created his mandates.

MULTIPLE Democrat 'rulers' were caught violating their own 'decrees'. While they were fininf the shit out of churches and businesses that defied them and stayed open THEY were breaking their own laws to go to their favorite jewelry stores, hair salons, and restaurants they specifically allowed to be open just for them.

While minority-owned small businesses (46% black, 31% Latino. 26% Asia, 25% women) were 'gasping their last breaths', Pelosi said, 'FU@K THEM', sent the House home, then gave an interview in front of her $24k freezer while eating 6 different kinds of expensive gourmet ice creams on national TV. (Talk about a middle finger and a verbal 'F* YOU to all those small business owners she walked away from and allowed to go under just so she could hurt the US economy for her and the Democratic party's benefit!).

The Democrats, so desperate to beat Trump, betrayed this nation and its citizens over and over again the last 4 years....and America-hating, irrational Trump-hating sheep like you continue to defend them, no matter how much evidence of their crimes is revealed.

No wonder all the snowflake sheep flock to Biden - they have so much in common: they are both mentally unstable.
 

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He turned 300 million into a net worth of over 2 Billion.

Sounds good to me.

Did he have bumps along the way? Of course. Anyone would. Not paying income taxes in years when you have net losses is called NORMAL.

To quote Obama, YOU LOST GET OVER IT.

Trump has always thrived on being TRUMP

Now it is clear what a sham the TRUMP empire is
And now we know why he refuses to open up the books.

We knew all along, of course, but now it's official.
Huh? He did open up his books. He didn’t share his personal tax returns but financial statements were filed.

Stay stupid little deplorable, we don't want you to see reality, it would be too much for you...


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If true this is most unfortunate but I believe every American deserves corroboration and not plain belief of a newspaper story designed to garner eyeballs.
Okay. Here's how we can get Corroboration. Trump can release his tax returns like he's been promising to do for five years now. Like everyone else who has run for President since the 1970's has done.
Trump has declared the Times story “Fake News”

All he has to do is release anything in his tax returns from the last ten years to prove the Times is wrong.

He won’t do it.
How would his personal tax returns reflect the success and or failures of his corporate ventures? Please explain this one to me. Do Jamie Dimons PITRs explain how well or poorly JPMC has done the last 10 yrs?
His personal tax returns would prove the Times story is fake news.
Even if he released a part of a return showing the Times is making it up, he could humiliate the proud news organization.

He won’t do it because the Times is correct
True or false, we do not believe the New York Times. To many fabricated stories and lies with a one sided vengeance.
The New York Times has made Trumps tax returns available for review.

Trump refuses to prove them wrong, he wants us to take his word on it.
How do his personal tax returns reflect how his businesses did? You keep dodging that question.
Great Point!

As for the fella that's dodgin your great point.

A REAL TAX EXPERT, NOT FROM TWITTER UNIVERSITY, SPEAKS: No, You Idiots. That’s Not How Taxes Work. – An Accountant’s Guide To Why You Are a Gullible Moron.

Worth reading, but in my opinion this type of image is why he’s a RETIRED accountant and makes far bigger bucks off fiction:

Trump has those resources. He’s got a room full of accountants, and their leader is a grizzled old CPA with an eye patch and a raven who sits on his shoulder. The raven also has an eye patch and an accounting degree. This man has wrestled bears, and he’s going to take advantage of every tax break in the US Code for his client, and do so gleefully, knowing that many of those laws were signed by Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.
Thank you
 

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when wall st no longer gave donny cash - that's when he turned to foreign banks.
Stop. Just stop
View attachment 393980
Clue: get one today
i don't need a 'clue' ... there's 30 yrs of donny's business ' savvy ' to go by.
Which you only know about through our media. He is actually pretty savvy.
& how would you know otherwise?

read post #6.

he's claimed several bankruptcies ... for casinos ... where the business model is designed that the house wins. when one files for bankruptcy, the trickle down effect is tragic. his partners get ripped off, they lose money because he doesn't have to pay his bills - & they suffer.

several of his business ventures have gone belly up.


Trump’s failed businesses:

1. Trump Steaks

2. GoTrump

3. Trump Airlines

4. Trump Vodka

5. Trump Mortgage

6. Trump: The Game

7. Trump Magazine

8. Trump University

9. Trump Ice

10. The New Jersey Generals

11. Tour de Trump

12. Trump Network

13. Trumped!



Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

1. Trump Taj Mahal

2. Trump’s Castle

3. Trump Plaza Casinos

4. Trump Plaza Hotel

5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

6. Trump Entertainment Resorts

Here Are All of Trump’s Bankruptcies and Failed Businesses
Bankruptcies are a way to restructure to eliminate debt. Casinos are profitable but only if people go there and in large numbers. Sometimes failures make you better as you learn from your mistakes. Is there one Republican you do like? Just one? In Congress. Since you are an Independent.
currently?

no.

i did like ms lindsey until donny ripped his spine out & i actually considered voting for john huntsman in 2012.
So you are not an “Indy” as you call yourself. Which is fine. In the end we vote for somewhat selfish reasons. I am turning 40 in less than three weeks and my kids are nearing teenage years so my perspective is different from that of a retiree or a single young person who just graduated college or a new military cadet.

What is important IMO is to have an honest media. When don’t. Very shameful.
bullshit. the current crop of critters are not real (R)s... so there is that. where exactly do you get your news, zog? i already know one entity is FOX, but that can't be the only one.

anywhere else?
Dan Crenshaw
Sean Duffy
Nikki Haley
John James
Tim Scott
Jim Jordan

All real to me. Opinions vary. I get my news from the WSJ, Harvard Business Review, ACG and some industry sources that send me daily emails. I am also out and about although less so these days so I get it from people I see.

Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, Daily Wire, etc. none are unbiased. Only show I watch on Fox is The Five. I record it.
nikki haley? jim jordan???? smh...

'the five' ... is that where dr. oz showed up, cause you were alllllll about him not too long ago. the WSJ is top notch news wise, but their OP/ED is quite biased.
Never saw Dr. Oz there. They don’t have guests. I shake my head at you. Think about it. You think me a lesser person because I disagree with you politically. This is why we are so divided. Lack of respect. I am guilty of it too.
where did you see him then when he was pushing the glories of hydroxychloroquine that you constantly quoted?

i'm not sure 'lesser person' is accurate. more closer to bewilderment.
Video that was loaded somewhere here I believe. No no. You dehumanize those who disagree with you. At least own it. That is the roadmap for the left. And the media were a bunch of liars long before Trump ran for president.
i own everything i say.

you wanna lump yourself in with the likes of some others? then that's on you.
Some others? No idea what that even means. Do you agree or disagree that we should not demonize people for having disparate political beliefs. Yes or no?
it all depends on their replies ... hell, i was told that i should be shot for my views .... i don't do nicey nice with someone like that.
You’re deflecting. If I believe we should spend more on the military and that one cannot change their gender and you disagree. Is it OK for either of us to get demonized? I do not believe so. We all have logic behind why we believe what we believe sans that witch Penelope.
i'm not deflecting - i straight up answered you. i can disagree with you & visey versey without demonizing. it happens plenty of times ... it depends on the poster because of their history of replies not just to me, but with others they disagree with. believe it or not, i do get along fine with some here that i am polar opposites with politically.
Name one. And I do not mean you and me only. In general the country is polarized. One can vote for Trump and not be a racist. One can support AOC and not be a communist. But many don’t see it that way.
how'z about 4 right off the top of my head?

lumpy
marion morrison
eagleyefleegle (sp?) although i'm not sure our views are completely polar.
gipper - ( he was a trump supporter at one time, then saw the light... however i can't remember agreeing with him on anything other than his opinion re: trump, but we get along just fine)

i told you b4 ... i don't lie.
Gipper is a crazy anarchist. Was never a Trump supporter. Don’t know the other people sans MM.
 

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He turned 300 million into a net worth of over 2 Billion.

Sounds good to me.

Did he have bumps along the way? Of course. Anyone would. Not paying income taxes in years when you have net losses is called NORMAL.

To quote Obama, YOU LOST GET OVER IT.

Trump has always thrived on being TRUMP

Now it is clear what a sham the TRUMP empire is
And now we know why he refuses to open up the books.

We knew all along, of course, but now it's official.
Huh? He did open up his books. He didn’t share his personal tax returns but financial statements were filed.

Stay stupid little deplorable, we don't want you to see reality, it would be too much for you...


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Do you have an Enquirer article? Same level of integrity and honesty. This NYT hit job has already been debunked. Go back to prison
 

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when wall st no longer gave donny cash - that's when he turned to foreign banks.
Stop. Just stop
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Clue: get one today
i don't need a 'clue' ... there's 30 yrs of donny's business ' savvy ' to go by.
All you ever say is I HATE TRUMP! I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM. I WILL SPIN ANYTHING NEGATIVE AGAINST HIM. I WILL BELIEVE ANY ACCUSATION AGAINST HIM AND REPEAT AND REPEAT AND REPEAT. I HAAAAATTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEE HIM!

I mean if it makes you feel better to scream like a banshee about your hate all day long that's fine. But don't convince yourself that convincing anyone how much you hate Trump will make them hate him as well.

You would need rational and well reasoned arguments to do that
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when wall st no longer gave donny cash - that's when he turned to foreign banks.
Stop. Just stop
View attachment 393980
Clue: get one today
i don't need a 'clue' ... there's 30 yrs of donny's business ' savvy ' to go by.
Which you only know about through our media. He is actually pretty savvy.
& how would you know otherwise?

read post #6.

he's claimed several bankruptcies ... for casinos ... where the business model is designed that the house wins. when one files for bankruptcy, the trickle down effect is tragic. his partners get ripped off, they lose money because he doesn't have to pay his bills - & they suffer.

several of his business ventures have gone belly up.


Trump’s failed businesses:

1. Trump Steaks

2. GoTrump

3. Trump Airlines

4. Trump Vodka

5. Trump Mortgage

6. Trump: The Game

7. Trump Magazine

8. Trump University

9. Trump Ice

10. The New Jersey Generals

11. Tour de Trump

12. Trump Network

13. Trumped!



Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

1. Trump Taj Mahal

2. Trump’s Castle

3. Trump Plaza Casinos

4. Trump Plaza Hotel

5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

6. Trump Entertainment Resorts

Here Are All of Trump’s Bankruptcies and Failed Businesses
Bankruptcies are a way to restructure to eliminate debt. Casinos are profitable but only if people go there and in large numbers. Sometimes failures make you better as you learn from your mistakes. Is there one Republican you do like? Just one? In Congress. Since you are an Independent.
currently?

no.

i did like ms lindsey until donny ripped his spine out & i actually considered voting for john huntsman in 2012.
So you are not an “Indy” as you call yourself. Which is fine. In the end we vote for somewhat selfish reasons. I am turning 40 in less than three weeks and my kids are nearing teenage years so my perspective is different from that of a retiree or a single young person who just graduated college or a new military cadet.

What is important IMO is to have an honest media. When don’t. Very shameful.
bullshit. the current crop of critters are not real (R)s... so there is that. where exactly do you get your news, zog? i already know one entity is FOX, but that can't be the only one.

anywhere else?
Dan Crenshaw
Sean Duffy
Nikki Haley
John James
Tim Scott
Jim Jordan

All real to me. Opinions vary. I get my news from the WSJ, Harvard Business Review, ACG and some industry sources that send me daily emails. I am also out and about although less so these days so I get it from people I see.

Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, Daily Wire, etc. none are unbiased. Only show I watch on Fox is The Five. I record it.
nikki haley? jim jordan???? smh...

'the five' ... is that where dr. oz showed up, cause you were alllllll about him not too long ago. the WSJ is top notch news wise, but their OP/ED is quite biased.
Never saw Dr. Oz there. They don’t have guests. I shake my head at you. Think about it. You think me a lesser person because I disagree with you politically. This is why we are so divided. Lack of respect. I am guilty of it too.
where did you see him then when he was pushing the glories of hydroxychloroquine that you constantly quoted?

i'm not sure 'lesser person' is accurate. more closer to bewilderment.
Video that was loaded somewhere here I believe. No no. You dehumanize those who disagree with you. At least own it. That is the roadmap for the left. And the media were a bunch of liars long before Trump ran for president.
i own everything i say.

you wanna lump yourself in with the likes of some others? then that's on you.
Some others? No idea what that even means. Do you agree or disagree that we should not demonize people for having disparate political beliefs. Yes or no?
it all depends on their replies ... hell, i was told that i should be shot for my views .... i don't do nicey nice with someone like that.
You’re deflecting. If I believe we should spend more on the military and that one cannot change their gender and you disagree. Is it OK for either of us to get demonized? I do not believe so. We all have logic behind why we believe what we believe sans that witch Penelope.
i'm not deflecting - i straight up answered you. i can disagree with you & visey versey without demonizing. it happens plenty of times ... it depends on the poster because of their history of replies not just to me, but with others they disagree with. believe it or not, i do get along fine with some here that i am polar opposites with politically.
Name one. And I do not mean you and me only. In general the country is polarized. One can vote for Trump and not be a racist. One can support AOC and not be a communist. But many don’t see it that way.
how'z about 4 right off the top of my head?

lumpy
marion morrison
eagleyefleegle (sp?) although i'm not sure our views are completely polar.
gipper - ( he was a trump supporter at one time, then saw the light... however i can't remember agreeing with him on anything other than his opinion re: trump, but we get along just fine)

i told you b4 ... i don't lie.
Gipper is a crazy anarchist. Was never a Trump supporter. Don’t know the other people sans MM.
my bad - it's savannahmann ... too many people have skulls for their avatars...

& the others you would recognize by theirs. no matter, cause like i said. i don't lie, so there's that.
 

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when wall st no longer gave donny cash - that's when he turned to foreign banks.
Stop. Just stop
View attachment 393980
Clue: get one today
i don't need a 'clue' ... there's 30 yrs of donny's business ' savvy ' to go by.
Which you only know about through our media. He is actually pretty savvy.
& how would you know otherwise?

read post #6.

he's claimed several bankruptcies ... for casinos ... where the business model is designed that the house wins. when one files for bankruptcy, the trickle down effect is tragic. his partners get ripped off, they lose money because he doesn't have to pay his bills - & they suffer.

several of his business ventures have gone belly up.


Trump’s failed businesses:

1. Trump Steaks

2. GoTrump

3. Trump Airlines

4. Trump Vodka

5. Trump Mortgage

6. Trump: The Game

7. Trump Magazine

8. Trump University

9. Trump Ice

10. The New Jersey Generals

11. Tour de Trump

12. Trump Network

13. Trumped!



Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

1. Trump Taj Mahal

2. Trump’s Castle

3. Trump Plaza Casinos

4. Trump Plaza Hotel

5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

6. Trump Entertainment Resorts

Here Are All of Trump’s Bankruptcies and Failed Businesses
Bankruptcies are a way to restructure to eliminate debt. Casinos are profitable but only if people go there and in large numbers. Sometimes failures make you better as you learn from your mistakes. Is there one Republican you do like? Just one? In Congress. Since you are an Independent.
currently?

no.

i did like ms lindsey until donny ripped his spine out & i actually considered voting for john huntsman in 2012.
So you are not an “Indy” as you call yourself. Which is fine. In the end we vote for somewhat selfish reasons. I am turning 40 in less than three weeks and my kids are nearing teenage years so my perspective is different from that of a retiree or a single young person who just graduated college or a new military cadet.

What is important IMO is to have an honest media. When don’t. Very shameful.
bullshit. the current crop of critters are not real (R)s... so there is that. where exactly do you get your news, zog? i already know one entity is FOX, but that can't be the only one.

anywhere else?
Dan Crenshaw
Sean Duffy
Nikki Haley
John James
Tim Scott
Jim Jordan

All real to me. Opinions vary. I get my news from the WSJ, Harvard Business Review, ACG and some industry sources that send me daily emails. I am also out and about although less so these days so I get it from people I see.

Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, Daily Wire, etc. none are unbiased. Only show I watch on Fox is The Five. I record it.
nikki haley? jim jordan???? smh...

'the five' ... is that where dr. oz showed up, cause you were alllllll about him not too long ago. the WSJ is top notch news wise, but their OP/ED is quite biased.
Never saw Dr. Oz there. They don’t have guests. I shake my head at you. Think about it. You think me a lesser person because I disagree with you politically. This is why we are so divided. Lack of respect. I am guilty of it too.
where did you see him then when he was pushing the glories of hydroxychloroquine that you constantly quoted?

i'm not sure 'lesser person' is accurate. more closer to bewilderment.
Video that was loaded somewhere here I believe. No no. You dehumanize those who disagree with you. At least own it. That is the roadmap for the left. And the media were a bunch of liars long before Trump ran for president.
i own everything i say.

you wanna lump yourself in with the likes of some others? then that's on you.
Some others? No idea what that even means. Do you agree or disagree that we should not demonize people for having disparate political beliefs. Yes or no?
it all depends on their replies ... hell, i was told that i should be shot for my views .... i don't do nicey nice with someone like that.
You’re deflecting. If I believe we should spend more on the military and that one cannot change their gender and you disagree. Is it OK for either of us to get demonized? I do not believe so. We all have logic behind why we believe what we believe sans that witch Penelope.
i'm not deflecting - i straight up answered you. i can disagree with you & visey versey without demonizing. it happens plenty of times ... it depends on the poster because of their history of replies not just to me, but with others they disagree with. believe it or not, i do get along fine with some here that i am polar opposites with politically.
Name one. And I do not mean you and me only. In general the country is polarized. One can vote for Trump and not be a racist. One can support AOC and not be a communist. But many don’t see it that way.
how'z about 4 right off the top of my head?

lumpy
marion morrison
eagleyefleegle (sp?) although i'm not sure our views are completely polar.
gipper - ( he was a trump supporter at one time, then saw the light... however i can't remember agreeing with him on anything other than his opinion re: trump, but we get along just fine)

i told you b4 ... i don't lie.
Gipper is a crazy anarchist. Was never a Trump supporter. Don’t know the other people sans MM.
my bad - it's savannahmann ... too many people have skulls for their avatars...

& the others you would recognize by theirs. no matter, cause like i said. i don't lie, so there's that.
You may not "lie" but you certainly stretch the truth. You're no Indy for example.
 
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