Donald J Trump Legacy

[Lysistrata]

Trump's greatest legacy: Put America first.

But he didn't.

Yes, he did. You're just upset that he didn't kowtow to unamerican PC dipshits. He promoted the long-term greater good for all Americans.

Explain what you think is for the "long-tern greater good for all Americans." There are some 330 million of us here, of both sexes, all races, all religions, all sexual orientations, all skin tones. We or our ancestors have come here from all nations on the planet. Just who is "unamerican"?

 

[Lastamender]

Trump's greatest legacy: Put America first.

But he didn't.

Yes, he did. You're just upset that he didn't kowtow to unamerican PC dipshits. He promoted the long-term greater good for all Americans.

Explain what you think is for the "long-tern greater good for all Americans." There are some 330 million of us here, of both sexes, all races, all religions, all sexual orientations, all skin tones. We or our ancestors have come here from all nations on the planet. Just who is "unamerican"?

I would say anyone who supports this illegitimate administration.

 

[MaryL]

How will History view the Presidency of Donald J Trump?

Accomplishments

Restructured Tax Code and slashed Corporate and High end tax rates
Stocked the Courts with Conservatives and named three to SCOTUS
Negotiated Peace settlements between Israel and three of its neighbors
Space Force
Rebranded the Republican Party
Led to a Historically low unemployment rate and high Stock Market
Met with Kim Jong Un

Negatives

Upon losing the election, led a campaign based on lies to overturn the results. Ultimately leading to the Jan 6 insurgency.
Provided inept leadership during COVID leading to 400,000 deaths
Destabilized NATO
Declining global respect for the US
Redefined Presidential decorum
Started a trade war with China and former economic allies
Replaced truth with a redefined reality
Escalated racial tensions
Withdrew from Paris Climate Accords, WHO and Iran Nuclear Deal

I give you a "Big fat liar" award, all those Trump "negatives" are far eclipsed by the communist front group formerly known as "Democrats". Impeaching Trump needlessly without a shred of evidence...(twice!) Um then, aligning with race hate groups and communists, tacitly supporting violence and intimidation hidden in the guise of anti racism/ anti fascism. Shame on you!

 

[Orangecat]

Explain what you think is for the "long-tern greater good for all Americans."

If you're not perceptive enough to understand all the good that Trump did, I'm not wasting my time trying to "explain" to you what is obvious to thinking and honest adults.

Just who is "unamerican"?

It's right there in the post you quoted: PC dipshits.

unamerican PC dipshits.

 

[Markle]

How will History view the Presidency of Donald J Trump?

Accomplishments

Restructured Tax Code and slashed Corporate and High end tax rates
Stocked the Courts with Conservatives and named three to SCOTUS
Negotiated Peace settlements between Israel and three of its neighbors
Space Force
Rebranded the Republican Party
Led to a Historically low unemployment rate and high Stock Market
Met with Kim Jong Un

Negatives

Upon losing the election, led a campaign based on lies to overturn the results. Ultimately leading to the Jan 6 insurgency.
Provided inept leadership during COVID leading to 400,000 deaths
Destabilized NATO
Declining global respect for the US
Redefined Presidential decorum
Started a trade war with China and former economic allies
Replaced truth with a redefined reality
Escalated racial tensions
Withdrew from Paris Climate Accords, WHO and Iran Nuclear Deal

Trump's greatest legacy was actually working to get things done.

Unlike previous do-nothing GOP'ers like Mitt Romney who refused to even fight Liberalism even when they were attacking him, Trump pushed back.

He set the bar high for those who succeed him in the Republican Party.

What exactly did he get done?
What was his lasting accomplishment?

3 SCOTUS seats. Built the border wall which will be completed, Moved embassy to Jerusalem and secured diplomatic relations with four Arab countries with more to follow and build an economy not even a pandemic and Stumblin' Joe can't fuck up (I hope).

And that's just off the top of my head.

America has been promising to move the embassy to Jerusalem since the Clinton Regime. Neither Clinton, Obama nor Dubya actually did it, although they all promised.

He didn't take "no" for an answer to the Wall, he manuevered around the Leftist Congress.

He got literally hundreds of federal court seats filled.

And most of all, he stood up to the Leftards and deep staters like no one else had the guts to.

He attended the March for Life Itself. First President to do so.

He honored America's Nobel Peace Prize nominee with the Presidential medal

So in terms of a lasting legacy of the Trump Presidency we have

A hundred miles of wall
Moving the Israel Embassy

Anything else?

Since you asked, and ignored my previous post, I'll put it up here again.

What a terrible president: The comprehensive list of Trump accomplishments
August 30, 2020

Summary
Unemployment: Record low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, women and other minorities. (This is tempered by the rising participation rate, which was down 3-4% when Trump took over.)

Participation rate climbing. While not fully recovered a half point rise in participation rate signals a significant claw back to pre-Obama levels. What this means is that people who gave up looking for work during the abysmally slow Obama recovery are finally looking to go back to work.

Wages rising – for the first time in decades wages rising for the middle class and poor. Last year wages for the poorest outpaced the richest in a very rare occurrence rising 4 and a half percent.

Productivity rising. An important but obscure statistic that is necessary to produce rising wages without stimulating inflation. Our productivity has been rising in the last few years breaking the record for decades again.

Growth rate hits 3% again. Obama’s economy averaged 1.5% over the 8 years. Trump is doing about twice Obama’s growth rate. Closer to the historic rate of 3% for the 25 years prior to Obama.

Investment in the US rising. Last year a trillion dollars was invested in the US by foreigners. More than a trillion has been repatriated of profits by domestic companies that have stashed their money away in the previous 8 years due to stultifying tax rates. A lot of this has gone into building manufacturing in the US something the prior administration said was impossible.

Stock market up 10,000 points. Unbelievable.

The US is the fastest growing country in the world now. A stunning achievement for the largest economy in the world by far. The US has grown from 1/5th the world economy to 1/4 the world economy in Trump’s 3 short years.

Heartland revived. Tax policies and incentives have pushed interest back to investing in the middle of America. Factories and other industries reinvigorating the middle of the country long neglected and abused by policies centered around liberal centers of population.

Energy independence. In a stunning and unexpected development the US is now the largest oil producer and the largest energy producer altogether. We now have energy independence a catch phrase that eluded us for 50 years now achieved in less than 3 years.

Manufacturing coming back. More than 500,000 manufacturing jobs created when Democrats said it was impossible. We lost 4 million jobs just to the Chinese from trade policies. So, 500,000 is a drop in the bucket but the trend is good.

Illegal immigration down – not in absolute terms but both Trump and I predicted massive increase in illegal immigration if his policies succeeded. A surging US economy would create massive force to drive illegal immigration. The Democrats claimed it was a non-problem then finally forced to admit it was a big problem have tried to paint it as evil that Trump is stopping people from entering the US. Immigration control is critical or all Trump’s policies of helping the middle class can be destroyed. He would be creating jobs for illegal immigrants not displaced American workers which he promised.

Wall being built. The biggest pushback it seems the left has tried on Donald Trump is to hobble his ability to build the wall. They have partially succeeded in that after 3 years only a small part has been rebuilt or newly built. Nonetheless it is getting built and he is doing it cheaper.

China confronted. While the Dems were complicit in China walking all over us passing and pushing for more free trade deals and not calling China to task for any of its egregious crimes against the US Trump has finally pulled the plug on the dangerous Chinese government that not only was stealing trillions in IP and other trade violations but is killing its own citizens and staging up its military not as an ally but as competition to us.

Caliphate defeated. I didn’t believe he would accomplish this as fast as he did. 10 months in and the caliphate was almost entirely destroyed. Astonishing success.

Nafta renogotiated. Trump successfully renogotiated NAFTA and the result by independent economic analysis will be the biggest boost to the US economy by any trade deal in history. Yahoo.

China agreement. Trump will sign phase 1 in January ensuring many many billions in farm sales and improvements in areas while keeping most of the existing tariffs in place. Inflation is 0%. The treasury is $100 billion richer and thousands of companies are moving to the US from china.

Japan agreement.

Military rebuilt

NATO invigorated and strengthened. NATO has added more than $100 billion to its budget and 22 of 26 nations including Germany are now saying they will meet the 2% minimum requirement for NATO membership.

Regulations decline

Court appointments. The president has appointed 2 Supreme Court justices and 148 other high level judges breaking the record of any other president.

Campus free speech. He has passed executive order providing sanctions against colleges which don’t enforce free speech.

Religious freedom.

Drug prices down

Obamacare mandate removed

Justice reform

Child tax credits

Withdrawal from world conflicts and endless wars

Exposing the real Russia conspiracy and the crimes of Democrats

Cleaning out some of the swamp. Reform of the FBI, CIA, NSA and DOJ on the way after IG reports and Durham indictments and trials complete.

Enterprise zones

Brexit win

Israel strengthened. Besides moving our embassy to Jerusalem Trump has bolstered Israel with powerful UN rebuffing to Jew hating nations and beat down the measures targeting Israel. He has supported Israel taking over additional lands that were in dispute and passed religious freedom measures.

middle class tax cuts. While low on this list it has been the centerpiece of producing the gains of the economy over the last 2 years. It is driving business back to America, reinvigorating the heartland and providing a break to the middle and lower classes.

Massive regulatory reform reducing costs to businesses

3 IG reports, 1 or 2 more pending outlining the corruption of our most important security and justice departments

Barr AG – restoring competent leadership to the DOJ and cleaning up the swamp

Escape the Paris agreement. The Paris agreement would have cost the US trillions as we were required to help countries with their energy by helping build competitive industry in foreign countries.

Iran under pressure

Soleimani killed

Delivered all the venitilators, PPE, hospital beds needed by every state. Every governor admitted it even liberals

Delivered aid to small business that resulted in 10 million more jobs in May than analysts expected

Pushing to open the economy so we can get a V shaped recovery which will generate jobs America needs to get back

Delivered testing that exceeds the combined testing of the rest of the world.

Shepherding the drug companies to produce various drugs and the vaccine companies. Developing program warp speed which will be able to deliver vaccines to every American by the end of the year

Implemented drug pricing scheme that drug companies cannot charge Americans more than other countries which will save Americans a trillion dollars over 10 years

America has the lowest case death rate in the world and fewer deaths than Europe in spite of egregious errors by blue states

A peace deal between UAE and Israel that establishes alliance for first time with a major rich Arab country and Israel.

N Korea stopped nuclear weapons testing and long distance missiles.

He has negotiated the return of 53 Americans imprisoned in horrible countries.

Durable multi-year funding for historically black colleges at record levels.

Cleaned the air and water to record low levels of pollution.

Prevented Russia from gaining more land and imposing sanctions on Russia that have crippled it.

This is an incredible list of accomplishments especially in light of the House of Representatives spending 99% of its time trying to impeach and stop President Trump from accomplishing anything.

What a terrible president: The comprehensive list of Trump accomplishments

 

[Lysistrata]

Trump's greatest legacy: Put America first.

But he didn't.

Yes, he did. You're just upset that he didn't kowtow to unamerican PC dipshits. He promoted the long-term greater good for all Americans.

Explain what you think is for the "long-tern greater good for all Americans." There are some 330 million of us here, of both sexes, all races, all religions, all sexual orientations, all skin tones. We or our ancestors have come here from all nations on the planet. Just who is "unamerican"?

I would say anyone who supports this illegitimate administration.

You are trying to evade the question. The Biden administration is not "illegitimate." We voted it in. It was not a trick of the electoral college. I remember going to the polls, sick and weak as I was at the time. I was given a folder with a ballot in it. I took it to a cubby, colored in a box by Biden's name, and then took it to a machine and ran it through, untouched by no other person. There is a Biden Administration because I, and so many others, exercised our will to make it so. Now answer the question.

 

[MaryL]

If I see where this is going, Trump's legacy is going to be last sane pre Chinese corruption President.

 

[rightwinger]

How will History view the Presidency of Donald J Trump?

Accomplishments

Restructured Tax Code and slashed Corporate and High end tax rates
Stocked the Courts with Conservatives and named three to SCOTUS
Negotiated Peace settlements between Israel and three of its neighbors
Space Force
Rebranded the Republican Party
Led to a Historically low unemployment rate and high Stock Market
Met with Kim Jong Un

Negatives

Upon losing the election, led a campaign based on lies to overturn the results. Ultimately leading to the Jan 6 insurgency.
Provided inept leadership during COVID leading to 400,000 deaths
Destabilized NATO
Declining global respect for the US
Redefined Presidential decorum
Started a trade war with China and former economic allies
Replaced truth with a redefined reality
Escalated racial tensions
Withdrew from Paris Climate Accords, WHO and Iran Nuclear Deal

Trump's greatest legacy was actually working to get things done.

Unlike previous do-nothing GOP'ers like Mitt Romney who refused to even fight Liberalism even when they were attacking him, Trump pushed back.

He set the bar high for those who succeed him in the Republican Party.

What exactly did he get done?
What was his lasting accomplishment?

3 SCOTUS seats. Built the border wall which will be completed, Moved embassy to Jerusalem and secured diplomatic relations with four Arab countries with more to follow and build an economy not even a pandemic and Stumblin' Joe can't fuck up (I hope).

And that's just off the top of my head.

America has been promising to move the embassy to Jerusalem since the Clinton Regime. Neither Clinton, Obama nor Dubya actually did it, although they all promised.

He didn't take "no" for an answer to the Wall, he manuevered around the Leftist Congress.

He got literally hundreds of federal court seats filled.

And most of all, he stood up to the Leftards and deep staters like no one else had the guts to.

He attended the March for Life Itself. First President to do so.

He honored America's Nobel Peace Prize nominee with the Presidential medal

So in terms of a lasting legacy of the Trump Presidency we have

A hundred miles of wall
Moving the Israel Embassy

Anything else?

Since you asked, and ignored my previous post, I'll put it up here again.

What a terrible president: The comprehensive list of Trump accomplishments
August 30, 2020

Summary
Unemployment: Record low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, women and other minorities. (This is tempered by the rising participation rate, which was down 3-4% when Trump took over.)

Participation rate climbing. While not fully recovered a half point rise in participation rate signals a significant claw back to pre-Obama levels. What this means is that people who gave up looking for work during the abysmally slow Obama recovery are finally looking to go back to work.

Wages rising – for the first time in decades wages rising for the middle class and poor. Last year wages for the poorest outpaced the richest in a very rare occurrence rising 4 and a half percent.

Productivity rising. An important but obscure statistic that is necessary to produce rising wages without stimulating inflation. Our productivity has been rising in the last few years breaking the record for decades again.

Growth rate hits 3% again. Obama’s economy averaged 1.5% over the 8 years. Trump is doing about twice Obama’s growth rate. Closer to the historic rate of 3% for the 25 years prior to Obama.

Investment in the US rising. Last year a trillion dollars was invested in the US by foreigners. More than a trillion has been repatriated of profits by domestic companies that have stashed their money away in the previous 8 years due to stultifying tax rates. A lot of this has gone into building manufacturing in the US something the prior administration said was impossible.

Stock market up 10,000 points. Unbelievable.

The US is the fastest growing country in the world now. A stunning achievement for the largest economy in the world by far. The US has grown from 1/5th the world economy to 1/4 the world economy in Trump’s 3 short years.

Heartland revived. Tax policies and incentives have pushed interest back to investing in the middle of America. Factories and other industries reinvigorating the middle of the country long neglected and abused by policies centered around liberal centers of population.

Energy independence. In a stunning and unexpected development the US is now the largest oil producer and the largest energy producer altogether. We now have energy independence a catch phrase that eluded us for 50 years now achieved in less than 3 years.

Manufacturing coming back. More than 500,000 manufacturing jobs created when Democrats said it was impossible. We lost 4 million jobs just to the Chinese from trade policies. So, 500,000 is a drop in the bucket but the trend is good.

Illegal immigration down – not in absolute terms but both Trump and I predicted massive increase in illegal immigration if his policies succeeded. A surging US economy would create massive force to drive illegal immigration. The Democrats claimed it was a non-problem then finally forced to admit it was a big problem have tried to paint it as evil that Trump is stopping people from entering the US. Immigration control is critical or all Trump’s policies of helping the middle class can be destroyed. He would be creating jobs for illegal immigrants not displaced American workers which he promised.

Wall being built. The biggest pushback it seems the left has tried on Donald Trump is to hobble his ability to build the wall. They have partially succeeded in that after 3 years only a small part has been rebuilt or newly built. Nonetheless it is getting built and he is doing it cheaper.

China confronted. While the Dems were complicit in China walking all over us passing and pushing for more free trade deals and not calling China to task for any of its egregious crimes against the US Trump has finally pulled the plug on the dangerous Chinese government that not only was stealing trillions in IP and other trade violations but is killing its own citizens and staging up its military not as an ally but as competition to us.

Caliphate defeated. I didn’t believe he would accomplish this as fast as he did. 10 months in and the caliphate was almost entirely destroyed. Astonishing success.

Nafta renogotiated. Trump successfully renogotiated NAFTA and the result by independent economic analysis will be the biggest boost to the US economy by any trade deal in history. Yahoo.

China agreement. Trump will sign phase 1 in January ensuring many many billions in farm sales and improvements in areas while keeping most of the existing tariffs in place. Inflation is 0%. The treasury is $100 billion richer and thousands of companies are moving to the US from china.

Japan agreement.

Military rebuilt

NATO invigorated and strengthened. NATO has added more than $100 billion to its budget and 22 of 26 nations including Germany are now saying they will meet the 2% minimum requirement for NATO membership.

Regulations decline

Court appointments. The president has appointed 2 Supreme Court justices and 148 other high level judges breaking the record of any other president.

Campus free speech. He has passed executive order providing sanctions against colleges which don’t enforce free speech.

Religious freedom.

Drug prices down

Obamacare mandate removed

Justice reform

Child tax credits

Withdrawal from world conflicts and endless wars

Exposing the real Russia conspiracy and the crimes of Democrats

Cleaning out some of the swamp. Reform of the FBI, CIA, NSA and DOJ on the way after IG reports and Durham indictments and trials complete.

Enterprise zones

Brexit win

Israel strengthened. Besides moving our embassy to Jerusalem Trump has bolstered Israel with powerful UN rebuffing to Jew hating nations and beat down the measures targeting Israel. He has supported Israel taking over additional lands that were in dispute and passed religious freedom measures.

middle class tax cuts. While low on this list it has been the centerpiece of producing the gains of the economy over the last 2 years. It is driving business back to America, reinvigorating the heartland and providing a break to the middle and lower classes.

Massive regulatory reform reducing costs to businesses

3 IG reports, 1 or 2 more pending outlining the corruption of our most important security and justice departments

Barr AG – restoring competent leadership to the DOJ and cleaning up the swamp

Escape the Paris agreement. The Paris agreement would have cost the US trillions as we were required to help countries with their energy by helping build competitive industry in foreign countries.

Iran under pressure

Soleimani killed

Delivered all the venitilators, PPE, hospital beds needed by every state. Every governor admitted it even liberals

Delivered aid to small business that resulted in 10 million more jobs in May than analysts expected

Pushing to open the economy so we can get a V shaped recovery which will generate jobs America needs to get back

Delivered testing that exceeds the combined testing of the rest of the world.

Shepherding the drug companies to produce various drugs and the vaccine companies. Developing program warp speed which will be able to deliver vaccines to every American by the end of the year

Implemented drug pricing scheme that drug companies cannot charge Americans more than other countries which will save Americans a trillion dollars over 10 years

America has the lowest case death rate in the world and fewer deaths than Europe in spite of egregious errors by blue states

A peace deal between UAE and Israel that establishes alliance for first time with a major rich Arab country and Israel.

N Korea stopped nuclear weapons testing and long distance missiles.

He has negotiated the return of 53 Americans imprisoned in horrible countries.

Durable multi-year funding for historically black colleges at record levels.

Cleaned the air and water to record low levels of pollution.

Prevented Russia from gaining more land and imposing sanctions on Russia that have crippled it.

This is an incredible list of accomplishments especially in light of the House of Representatives spending 99% of its time trying to impeach and stop President Trump from accomplishing anything.

What a terrible president: The comprehensive list of Trump accomplishments

I saw it
I acknowledged Trump had a good economy for the first three years. History will record his final year as a disaster and his post election behavior bordering on treason

The rest of your accomplishments......I doubt if History will be as impressed as you are

 

[rightwinger]

How will History view the Presidency of Donald J Trump?

Accomplishments

Restructured Tax Code and slashed Corporate and High end tax rates
Stocked the Courts with Conservatives and named three to SCOTUS
Negotiated Peace settlements between Israel and three of its neighbors
Space Force
Rebranded the Republican Party
Led to a Historically low unemployment rate and high Stock Market
Met with Kim Jong Un

Negatives

Upon losing the election, led a campaign based on lies to overturn the results. Ultimately leading to the Jan 6 insurgency.
Provided inept leadership during COVID leading to 400,000 deaths
Destabilized NATO
Declining global respect for the US
Redefined Presidential decorum
Started a trade war with China and former economic allies
Replaced truth with a redefined reality
Escalated racial tensions
Withdrew from Paris Climate Accords, WHO and Iran Nuclear Deal

I give you a "Big fat liar" award, all those Trump "negatives" are far eclipsed by the communist front group formerly known as "Democrats". Impeaching Trump needlessly without a shred of evidence...(twice!) Um then, aligning with race hate groups and communists, tacitly supporting violence and intimidation hidden in the guise of anti racism/ anti fascism. Shame on you!

I am willing to discuss any of those negatives you disagree with.
Go for it
I also listed as accomplishments some things that History may look down on.

 

[MaryL]

How will History view the Presidency of Donald J Trump?

Accomplishments

Restructured Tax Code and slashed Corporate and High end tax rates
Stocked the Courts with Conservatives and named three to SCOTUS
Negotiated Peace settlements between Israel and three of its neighbors
Space Force
Rebranded the Republican Party
Led to a Historically low unemployment rate and high Stock Market
Met with Kim Jong Un

Negatives

Upon losing the election, led a campaign based on lies to overturn the results. Ultimately leading to the Jan 6 insurgency.
Provided inept leadership during COVID leading to 400,000 deaths
Destabilized NATO
Declining global respect for the US
Redefined Presidential decorum
Started a trade war with China and former economic allies
Replaced truth with a redefined reality
Escalated racial tensions
Withdrew from Paris Climate Accords, WHO and Iran Nuclear Deal

Trump's greatest legacy was actually working to get things done.

Unlike previous do-nothing GOP'ers like Mitt Romney who refused to even fight Liberalism even when they were attacking him, Trump pushed back.

He set the bar high for those who succeed him in the Republican Party.

What exactly did he get done?
What was his lasting accomplishment?

3 SCOTUS seats. Built the border wall which will be completed, Moved embassy to Jerusalem and secured diplomatic relations with four Arab countries with more to follow and build an economy not even a pandemic and Stumblin' Joe can't fuck up (I hope).

And that's just off the top of my head.

America has been promising to move the embassy to Jerusalem since the Clinton Regime. Neither Clinton, Obama nor Dubya actually did it, although they all promised.

He didn't take "no" for an answer to the Wall, he manuevered around the Leftist Congress.

He got literally hundreds of federal court seats filled.

And most of all, he stood up to the Leftards and deep staters like no one else had the guts to.

He attended the March for Life Itself. First President to do so.

He honored America's Nobel Peace Prize nominee with the Presidential medal

So in terms of a lasting legacy of the Trump Presidency we have

A hundred miles of wall
Moving the Israel Embassy

Anything else?

Since you asked, and ignored my previous post, I'll put it up here again.

What a terrible president: The comprehensive list of Trump accomplishments
August 30, 2020

Summary
Unemployment: Record low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, women and other minorities. (This is tempered by the rising participation rate, which was down 3-4% when Trump took over.)

Participation rate climbing. While not fully recovered a half point rise in participation rate signals a significant claw back to pre-Obama levels. What this means is that people who gave up looking for work during the abysmally slow Obama recovery are finally looking to go back to work.

Wages rising – for the first time in decades wages rising for the middle class and poor. Last year wages for the poorest outpaced the richest in a very rare occurrence rising 4 and a half percent.

Productivity rising. An important but obscure statistic that is necessary to produce rising wages without stimulating inflation. Our productivity has been rising in the last few years breaking the record for decades again.

Growth rate hits 3% again. Obama’s economy averaged 1.5% over the 8 years. Trump is doing about twice Obama’s growth rate. Closer to the historic rate of 3% for the 25 years prior to Obama.

Investment in the US rising. Last year a trillion dollars was invested in the US by foreigners. More than a trillion has been repatriated of profits by domestic companies that have stashed their money away in the previous 8 years due to stultifying tax rates. A lot of this has gone into building manufacturing in the US something the prior administration said was impossible.

Stock market up 10,000 points. Unbelievable.

The US is the fastest growing country in the world now. A stunning achievement for the largest economy in the world by far. The US has grown from 1/5th the world economy to 1/4 the world economy in Trump’s 3 short years.

Heartland revived. Tax policies and incentives have pushed interest back to investing in the middle of America. Factories and other industries reinvigorating the middle of the country long neglected and abused by policies centered around liberal centers of population.

Energy independence. In a stunning and unexpected development the US is now the largest oil producer and the largest energy producer altogether. We now have energy independence a catch phrase that eluded us for 50 years now achieved in less than 3 years.

Manufacturing coming back. More than 500,000 manufacturing jobs created when Democrats said it was impossible. We lost 4 million jobs just to the Chinese from trade policies. So, 500,000 is a drop in the bucket but the trend is good.

Illegal immigration down – not in absolute terms but both Trump and I predicted massive increase in illegal immigration if his policies succeeded. A surging US economy would create massive force to drive illegal immigration. The Democrats claimed it was a non-problem then finally forced to admit it was a big problem have tried to paint it as evil that Trump is stopping people from entering the US. Immigration control is critical or all Trump’s policies of helping the middle class can be destroyed. He would be creating jobs for illegal immigrants not displaced American workers which he promised.

Wall being built. The biggest pushback it seems the left has tried on Donald Trump is to hobble his ability to build the wall. They have partially succeeded in that after 3 years only a small part has been rebuilt or newly built. Nonetheless it is getting built and he is doing it cheaper.

China confronted. While the Dems were complicit in China walking all over us passing and pushing for more free trade deals and not calling China to task for any of its egregious crimes against the US Trump has finally pulled the plug on the dangerous Chinese government that not only was stealing trillions in IP and other trade violations but is killing its own citizens and staging up its military not as an ally but as competition to us.

Caliphate defeated. I didn’t believe he would accomplish this as fast as he did. 10 months in and the caliphate was almost entirely destroyed. Astonishing success.

Nafta renogotiated. Trump successfully renogotiated NAFTA and the result by independent economic analysis will be the biggest boost to the US economy by any trade deal in history. Yahoo.

China agreement. Trump will sign phase 1 in January ensuring many many billions in farm sales and improvements in areas while keeping most of the existing tariffs in place. Inflation is 0%. The treasury is $100 billion richer and thousands of companies are moving to the US from china.

Japan agreement.

Military rebuilt

NATO invigorated and strengthened. NATO has added more than $100 billion to its budget and 22 of 26 nations including Germany are now saying they will meet the 2% minimum requirement for NATO membership.

Regulations decline

Court appointments. The president has appointed 2 Supreme Court justices and 148 other high level judges breaking the record of any other president.

Campus free speech. He has passed executive order providing sanctions against colleges which don’t enforce free speech.

Religious freedom.

Drug prices down

Obamacare mandate removed

Justice reform

Child tax credits

Withdrawal from world conflicts and endless wars

Exposing the real Russia conspiracy and the crimes of Democrats

Cleaning out some of the swamp. Reform of the FBI, CIA, NSA and DOJ on the way after IG reports and Durham indictments and trials complete.

Enterprise zones

Brexit win

Israel strengthened. Besides moving our embassy to Jerusalem Trump has bolstered Israel with powerful UN rebuffing to Jew hating nations and beat down the measures targeting Israel. He has supported Israel taking over additional lands that were in dispute and passed religious freedom measures.

middle class tax cuts. While low on this list it has been the centerpiece of producing the gains of the economy over the last 2 years. It is driving business back to America, reinvigorating the heartland and providing a break to the middle and lower classes.

Massive regulatory reform reducing costs to businesses

3 IG reports, 1 or 2 more pending outlining the corruption of our most important security and justice departments

Barr AG – restoring competent leadership to the DOJ and cleaning up the swamp

Escape the Paris agreement. The Paris agreement would have cost the US trillions as we were required to help countries with their energy by helping build competitive industry in foreign countries.

Iran under pressure

Soleimani killed

Delivered all the venitilators, PPE, hospital beds needed by every state. Every governor admitted it even liberals

Delivered aid to small business that resulted in 10 million more jobs in May than analysts expected

Pushing to open the economy so we can get a V shaped recovery which will generate jobs America needs to get back

Delivered testing that exceeds the combined testing of the rest of the world.

Shepherding the drug companies to produce various drugs and the vaccine companies. Developing program warp speed which will be able to deliver vaccines to every American by the end of the year

Implemented drug pricing scheme that drug companies cannot charge Americans more than other countries which will save Americans a trillion dollars over 10 years

America has the lowest case death rate in the world and fewer deaths than Europe in spite of egregious errors by blue states

A peace deal between UAE and Israel that establishes alliance for first time with a major rich Arab country and Israel.

N Korea stopped nuclear weapons testing and long distance missiles.

He has negotiated the return of 53 Americans imprisoned in horrible countries.

Durable multi-year funding for historically black colleges at record levels.

Cleaned the air and water to record low levels of pollution.

Prevented Russia from gaining more land and imposing sanctions on Russia that have crippled it.

This is an incredible list of accomplishments especially in light of the House of Representatives spending 99% of its time trying to impeach and stop President Trump from accomplishing anything.

What a terrible president: The comprehensive list of Trump accomplishments

I saw it
I acknowledged Trump had a good economy for the first three years. History will record his final year as a disaster and his post election behavior bordering on treason

The rest of your accomplishments......I doubt if History will be as impressed as you are

Trump didn't get impeached over facts of actual crimes. But Dumbocrats endorse fake victim groups like the BLM and exagerated bad police on poor blacks issues...I doubt ANYONE here can actually point to anything Trump that actually did to hurt them, as apposed to Dumocrats allowing and supporting race riots. That hurt way more people, buck-o.

 

[rightwinger]

How will History view the Presidency of Donald J Trump?

Accomplishments

Restructured Tax Code and slashed Corporate and High end tax rates
Stocked the Courts with Conservatives and named three to SCOTUS
Negotiated Peace settlements between Israel and three of its neighbors
Space Force
Rebranded the Republican Party
Led to a Historically low unemployment rate and high Stock Market
Met with Kim Jong Un

Negatives

Upon losing the election, led a campaign based on lies to overturn the results. Ultimately leading to the Jan 6 insurgency.
Provided inept leadership during COVID leading to 400,000 deaths
Destabilized NATO
Declining global respect for the US
Redefined Presidential decorum
Started a trade war with China and former economic allies
Replaced truth with a redefined reality
Escalated racial tensions
Withdrew from Paris Climate Accords, WHO and Iran Nuclear Deal

Trump's greatest legacy was actually working to get things done.

Unlike previous do-nothing GOP'ers like Mitt Romney who refused to even fight Liberalism even when they were attacking him, Trump pushed back.

He set the bar high for those who succeed him in the Republican Party.

What exactly did he get done?
What was his lasting accomplishment?

3 SCOTUS seats. Built the border wall which will be completed, Moved embassy to Jerusalem and secured diplomatic relations with four Arab countries with more to follow and build an economy not even a pandemic and Stumblin' Joe can't fuck up (I hope).

And that's just off the top of my head.

America has been promising to move the embassy to Jerusalem since the Clinton Regime. Neither Clinton, Obama nor Dubya actually did it, although they all promised.

He didn't take "no" for an answer to the Wall, he manuevered around the Leftist Congress.

He got literally hundreds of federal court seats filled.

And most of all, he stood up to the Leftards and deep staters like no one else had the guts to.

He attended the March for Life Itself. First President to do so.

He honored America's Nobel Peace Prize nominee with the Presidential medal

So in terms of a lasting legacy of the Trump Presidency we have

A hundred miles of wall
Moving the Israel Embassy

Anything else?

Since you asked, and ignored my previous post, I'll put it up here again.

What a terrible president: The comprehensive list of Trump accomplishments
August 30, 2020

Summary
Unemployment: Record low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, women and other minorities. (This is tempered by the rising participation rate, which was down 3-4% when Trump took over.)

Participation rate climbing. While not fully recovered a half point rise in participation rate signals a significant claw back to pre-Obama levels. What this means is that people who gave up looking for work during the abysmally slow Obama recovery are finally looking to go back to work.

Wages rising – for the first time in decades wages rising for the middle class and poor. Last year wages for the poorest outpaced the richest in a very rare occurrence rising 4 and a half percent.

Productivity rising. An important but obscure statistic that is necessary to produce rising wages without stimulating inflation. Our productivity has been rising in the last few years breaking the record for decades again.

Growth rate hits 3% again. Obama’s economy averaged 1.5% over the 8 years. Trump is doing about twice Obama’s growth rate. Closer to the historic rate of 3% for the 25 years prior to Obama.

Investment in the US rising. Last year a trillion dollars was invested in the US by foreigners. More than a trillion has been repatriated of profits by domestic companies that have stashed their money away in the previous 8 years due to stultifying tax rates. A lot of this has gone into building manufacturing in the US something the prior administration said was impossible.

Stock market up 10,000 points. Unbelievable.

The US is the fastest growing country in the world now. A stunning achievement for the largest economy in the world by far. The US has grown from 1/5th the world economy to 1/4 the world economy in Trump’s 3 short years.

Heartland revived. Tax policies and incentives have pushed interest back to investing in the middle of America. Factories and other industries reinvigorating the middle of the country long neglected and abused by policies centered around liberal centers of population.

Energy independence. In a stunning and unexpected development the US is now the largest oil producer and the largest energy producer altogether. We now have energy independence a catch phrase that eluded us for 50 years now achieved in less than 3 years.

Manufacturing coming back. More than 500,000 manufacturing jobs created when Democrats said it was impossible. We lost 4 million jobs just to the Chinese from trade policies. So, 500,000 is a drop in the bucket but the trend is good.

Illegal immigration down – not in absolute terms but both Trump and I predicted massive increase in illegal immigration if his policies succeeded. A surging US economy would create massive force to drive illegal immigration. The Democrats claimed it was a non-problem then finally forced to admit it was a big problem have tried to paint it as evil that Trump is stopping people from entering the US. Immigration control is critical or all Trump’s policies of helping the middle class can be destroyed. He would be creating jobs for illegal immigrants not displaced American workers which he promised.

Wall being built. The biggest pushback it seems the left has tried on Donald Trump is to hobble his ability to build the wall. They have partially succeeded in that after 3 years only a small part has been rebuilt or newly built. Nonetheless it is getting built and he is doing it cheaper.

China confronted. While the Dems were complicit in China walking all over us passing and pushing for more free trade deals and not calling China to task for any of its egregious crimes against the US Trump has finally pulled the plug on the dangerous Chinese government that not only was stealing trillions in IP and other trade violations but is killing its own citizens and staging up its military not as an ally but as competition to us.

Caliphate defeated. I didn’t believe he would accomplish this as fast as he did. 10 months in and the caliphate was almost entirely destroyed. Astonishing success.

Nafta renogotiated. Trump successfully renogotiated NAFTA and the result by independent economic analysis will be the biggest boost to the US economy by any trade deal in history. Yahoo.

China agreement. Trump will sign phase 1 in January ensuring many many billions in farm sales and improvements in areas while keeping most of the existing tariffs in place. Inflation is 0%. The treasury is $100 billion richer and thousands of companies are moving to the US from china.

Japan agreement.

Military rebuilt

NATO invigorated and strengthened. NATO has added more than $100 billion to its budget and 22 of 26 nations including Germany are now saying they will meet the 2% minimum requirement for NATO membership.

Regulations decline

Court appointments. The president has appointed 2 Supreme Court justices and 148 other high level judges breaking the record of any other president.

Campus free speech. He has passed executive order providing sanctions against colleges which don’t enforce free speech.

Religious freedom.

Drug prices down

Obamacare mandate removed

Justice reform

Child tax credits

Withdrawal from world conflicts and endless wars

Exposing the real Russia conspiracy and the crimes of Democrats

Cleaning out some of the swamp. Reform of the FBI, CIA, NSA and DOJ on the way after IG reports and Durham indictments and trials complete.

Enterprise zones

Brexit win

Israel strengthened. Besides moving our embassy to Jerusalem Trump has bolstered Israel with powerful UN rebuffing to Jew hating nations and beat down the measures targeting Israel. He has supported Israel taking over additional lands that were in dispute and passed religious freedom measures.

middle class tax cuts. While low on this list it has been the centerpiece of producing the gains of the economy over the last 2 years. It is driving business back to America, reinvigorating the heartland and providing a break to the middle and lower classes.

Massive regulatory reform reducing costs to businesses

3 IG reports, 1 or 2 more pending outlining the corruption of our most important security and justice departments

Barr AG – restoring competent leadership to the DOJ and cleaning up the swamp

Escape the Paris agreement. The Paris agreement would have cost the US trillions as we were required to help countries with their energy by helping build competitive industry in foreign countries.

Iran under pressure

Soleimani killed

Delivered all the venitilators, PPE, hospital beds needed by every state. Every governor admitted it even liberals

Delivered aid to small business that resulted in 10 million more jobs in May than analysts expected

Pushing to open the economy so we can get a V shaped recovery which will generate jobs America needs to get back

Delivered testing that exceeds the combined testing of the rest of the world.

Shepherding the drug companies to produce various drugs and the vaccine companies. Developing program warp speed which will be able to deliver vaccines to every American by the end of the year

Implemented drug pricing scheme that drug companies cannot charge Americans more than other countries which will save Americans a trillion dollars over 10 years

America has the lowest case death rate in the world and fewer deaths than Europe in spite of egregious errors by blue states

A peace deal between UAE and Israel that establishes alliance for first time with a major rich Arab country and Israel.

N Korea stopped nuclear weapons testing and long distance missiles.

He has negotiated the return of 53 Americans imprisoned in horrible countries.

Durable multi-year funding for historically black colleges at record levels.

Cleaned the air and water to record low levels of pollution.

Prevented Russia from gaining more land and imposing sanctions on Russia that have crippled it.

This is an incredible list of accomplishments especially in light of the House of Representatives spending 99% of its time trying to impeach and stop President Trump from accomplishing anything.

What a terrible president: The comprehensive list of Trump accomplishments

I saw it
I acknowledged Trump had a good economy for the first three years. History will record his final year as a disaster and his post election behavior bordering on treason

The rest of your accomplishments......I doubt if History will be as impressed as you are

Trump didn't get impeached over facts of actual crimes. But Dumbocrats endorse fake victim groups like the BLM and exagerated bad police on poor blacks issues...I doubt ANYONE here can actually point to anything Trump that actually did to hurt them, as apposed to Dumocrats allowing and supporting race riots. That hurt way more people, buck-o.

History will not look favorably on Trumps role in two impeachment’s or those who looked the other way.

In the first one, Trump extorted another nation to find negative information on a political rival.

In the second, Trump incited a riot based on a lie and sent them to the Capitol to stop the lawful election of his successor. History will show he was not acquitted, but was let off because he was no longer President.

 

[MaryL]

How will History view the Presidency of Donald J Trump?

Accomplishments

Restructured Tax Code and slashed Corporate and High end tax rates
Stocked the Courts with Conservatives and named three to SCOTUS
Negotiated Peace settlements between Israel and three of its neighbors
Space Force
Rebranded the Republican Party
Led to a Historically low unemployment rate and high Stock Market
Met with Kim Jong Un

Negatives

Upon losing the election, led a campaign based on lies to overturn the results. Ultimately leading to the Jan 6 insurgency.
Provided inept leadership during COVID leading to 400,000 deaths
Destabilized NATO
Declining global respect for the US
Redefined Presidential decorum
Started a trade war with China and former economic allies
Replaced truth with a redefined reality
Escalated racial tensions
Withdrew from Paris Climate Accords, WHO and Iran Nuclear Deal

I give you a "Big fat liar" award, all those Trump "negatives" are far eclipsed by the communist front group formerly known as "Democrats". Impeaching Trump needlessly without a shred of evidence...(twice!) Um then, aligning with race hate groups and communists, tacitly supporting violence and intimidation hidden in the guise of anti racism/ anti fascism. Shame on you!

I am willing to discuss any of those negatives you disagree with.
Go for it
I also listed as accomplishments some things that History may look down on.

To be honest, I don't care what you think. Trump didn't burn down cities, despite his "faults".

 

[Markle]

However, only 80 miles of new barriers have been built where there were none before - that includes 47 miles of primary wall, and 33 miles of secondary wall built to reinforce the initial barrier.
The vast majority of the 452 miles is replacing existing structures at the border that had been built by previous US administrations.

So what?

Replacing this wall.

With this wall, does not, in your mind, "count" toward strengthening our Southern border.

Got it!

 

[rightwinger]

Trump's greatest legacy: Put America first.

First in COVID Deaths?

 

[rightwinger]

How will History view the Presidency of Donald J Trump?

Accomplishments

Restructured Tax Code and slashed Corporate and High end tax rates
Stocked the Courts with Conservatives and named three to SCOTUS
Negotiated Peace settlements between Israel and three of its neighbors
Space Force
Rebranded the Republican Party
Led to a Historically low unemployment rate and high Stock Market
Met with Kim Jong Un

Negatives

Upon losing the election, led a campaign based on lies to overturn the results. Ultimately leading to the Jan 6 insurgency.
Provided inept leadership during COVID leading to 400,000 deaths
Destabilized NATO
Declining global respect for the US
Redefined Presidential decorum
Started a trade war with China and former economic allies
Replaced truth with a redefined reality
Escalated racial tensions
Withdrew from Paris Climate Accords, WHO and Iran Nuclear Deal

I give you a "Big fat liar" award, all those Trump "negatives" are far eclipsed by the communist front group formerly known as "Democrats". Impeaching Trump needlessly without a shred of evidence...(twice!) Um then, aligning with race hate groups and communists, tacitly supporting violence and intimidation hidden in the guise of anti racism/ anti fascism. Shame on you!

I am willing to discuss any of those negatives you disagree with.
Go for it
I also listed as accomplishments some things that History may look down on.

To be honest, I don't care what you think. Trump didn't burn down cities, despite his "faults".

OK
Then let’s examine Trumps role in BLM riots
Instead of trying to ease tensions and resolve racial complaints, Trump labeled BLM as terrorists and mocked those who were peacefully protesting.
In July, he engaged in bizarre theater by gassing peaceful protests so that he could get a photo op with a Bible.

 

[MaryL]

How condescending of you. Democrats and your (nothing personal) lapdog media has been inciting race riots for months. You, and the Dems/media hyper focus on how bad whites are whilst ignore the rather large black crime rate...80% of the "anti Asian" hate crimes is by blacks, for instance.

 

[MaryL]

How will History view the Presidency of Donald J Trump?

Accomplishments

Restructured Tax Code and slashed Corporate and High end tax rates
Stocked the Courts with Conservatives and named three to SCOTUS
Negotiated Peace settlements between Israel and three of its neighbors
Space Force
Rebranded the Republican Party
Led to a Historically low unemployment rate and high Stock Market
Met with Kim Jong Un

Negatives

Upon losing the election, led a campaign based on lies to overturn the results. Ultimately leading to the Jan 6 insurgency.
Provided inept leadership during COVID leading to 400,000 deaths
Destabilized NATO
Declining global respect for the US
Redefined Presidential decorum
Started a trade war with China and former economic allies
Replaced truth with a redefined reality
Escalated racial tensions
Withdrew from Paris Climate Accords, WHO and Iran Nuclear Deal

I give you a "Big fat liar" award, all those Trump "negatives" are far eclipsed by the communist front group formerly known as "Democrats". Impeaching Trump needlessly without a shred of evidence...(twice!) Um then, aligning with race hate groups and communists, tacitly supporting violence and intimidation hidden in the guise of anti racism/ anti fascism. Shame on you!

I am willing to discuss any of those negatives you disagree with.
Go for it
I also listed as accomplishments some things that History may look down on.

To be honest, I don't care what you think. Trump didn't burn down cities, despite his "faults".

OK
Then let’s examine Trumps role in BLM riots
Instead of trying to ease tensions and resolve racial complaints, Trump labeled BLM as terrorists and mocked those who were peacefully protesting.
In July, he engaged in bizarre theater by gassing peaceful protests so that he could get a photo op with a Bible.

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How condescending of you. Democrats and your (nothing personal) lapdog media has been inciting race riots for months. You, and the Dems/media hyper focus on how bad whites are whilst ignore the rather large black crime rate...80% of the "anti Asian" hate crimes is by blacks, for instance.

 

[Indeependent]

Trumps individual legacy will be “The Truth”

While all Presidents lie, they tend to restrict themselves to stretching the truth or putting a favorable spin on events

Trump created alternate realities. Lying was not good enough. He substituted what actually happened with his own version of events. Then he would demand that his staff, his party and his followers embrace his version of reality.

How do you know President Trump was lying?
Oh! The news!
Didn't President Trump destroy all the news outlets with which he disagreed?
Hmmmm....No!

When he claimed he had the largest inauguration.....he lied
When he claimed a hurricane was headed for Alabama and he modified a map with a Sharpie...he lied
When he claimed 5 million illegals voted for Hillary...he lied

In terms of his last election, we don’t even have to go there

Just exactly how do the constant flow of lies from politicians affect your life adversely?

 

[MaryL]

How is lying good? The Santa Clause thing, or the BLM democrat George Floyd anti police anti white lie is way better?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Trump's greatest legacy: Put America first.

He destroyed American Exceptionalism

Hahaha..."American exceptionalism" is not found in any of your filthy blue shitholes. Look at the data.