Don t Let Anybody Tell You That Businesses Create Jobs

[BlackSand]

Dude you are the one made the statement. Small electronics is a market. You are the one claimed that markets provide a service.
Then you do the non nonsensical approach favored on here.

What does having a choice of product to fill a demand have to do with what we are talking about?

No I didn't ... I never once said I provided a product. I also didn't say anything about markets providing a service ... They are where a company or business sells a product or service.

Demand does not creat a product or service .. A business creates the product or service and the products and services are not necessarily tailored to existing demand. There is a big difference between a Rolex and a Swatch ... And the demand for one or the other didn't exist until they were produced.

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[Iceweasel]

Because she's right. Businesses don't "create jobs". They answer the need for jobs that is created by consumer demand. It's that demand that creates jobs. Businesses are just there to fulfill the demand.

Ultimately it's a healthy middle class that creates jobs.

Another mooch lecturing people that know better.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Because she's right. Businesses don't "create jobs". They answer the need for jobs that is created by consumer demand. It's that demand that creates jobs. Businesses are just there to fulfill the demand.

Ultimately it's a healthy middle class that creates jobs.

Is the USA the only nation with demand? According to your "Theory" China and India should have economies 4 times that of the USA

 

[Care4all]

Help is hired when sales increase.... (sales = demand)

I have a small business, run by myself, and I am now almost to the point with my sales, to be able to hire a part time person to help....if my sales/demand had not increased, then I would not be able to take on a new hire...

But at the same time, if I did not have the money to increase my supply of what is projected in demand/sales, then hiring another person would be fruitless....

Both are needed, demand, and the ability to supply the product for the increase in demand.

 

[Iceweasel]

Help is hired when sales increase.... (sales = demand)

I have a small business, run by myself, and I am now almost to the point with my sales, to be able to hire a part time person to help....if my sales/demand had not increased, then I would not be able to take on a new hire...

But at the same time, if I did not have the money to increase my supply of what is projected in demand/sales, then hiring another person would be fruitless....

Both are needed, demand, and the ability to supply the product for the increase in demand.

Demand is crucial, no one is saying otherwise. Supply and demand is the foundation of business (and economies, but that's a bigger issue). The argument seems to be that the demand occurs first, by the people, and the business simply fills the void. That's bass ackwards.

You offer the goods and services first, if it's marketable you have the demand, if it increases you can increase your supply with new hires, or machines, whatever.

 

[RDD_1210]

Because she's right. Businesses don't "create jobs". They answer the need for jobs that is created by consumer demand. It's that demand that creates jobs. Businesses are just there to fulfill the demand.

Ultimately it's a healthy middle class that creates jobs.

Another mooch lecturing people that know better.

Who knows better? Certainly not you.

 

[The Rabbi]

No, idiot. We dont believe that. We do believe jobs are created by companies anticipating or creating demand/ But that concept is beyond you.

That "concept" is not beyond anyone. It is a ******* lie that assholes like you are wed to. And you ******* can't prove what you assert. And that's your problem. You ******* married a lie and now have to try and defend it.

You all ain't doing a very good job of it.
And you have agreed that a lack of demand can cause a company to fail. BUT
Companies can't fail IF, as you contend, the companies are CREATING the demand. Why would they ever fail rabbit?

Poor Zeke. 10AM Eastern and he's already babbling incoherently.
Hey, Zekester. Quit posting you're getting your ass handed to you here.

 

[RDD_1210]

Because she's right. Businesses don't "create jobs". They answer the need for jobs that is created by consumer demand. It's that demand that creates jobs. Businesses are just there to fulfill the demand.

Ultimately it's a healthy middle class that creates jobs.

Is the USA the only nation with demand? According to your "Theory" China and India should have economies 4 times that of the USA

Is this a serious question?

Oh it's Frank.

Nope, it's not serious.

 

[The Rabbi]

Because she's right. Businesses don't "create jobs". They answer the need for jobs that is created by consumer demand. It's that demand that creates jobs. Businesses are just there to fulfill the demand.

Ultimately it's a healthy middle class that creates jobs.

Wow. This thread is 175 pages with post after post laying out what that is completely wrong.
And here you are, good little drone, showing up bleating the opposite.

 

[zeke]

Let say I want to open a machine shop. You think I will just go out and purchase or rent shop space, spend big money on machines and material and labor (machinists make good money).......then I am going to go out and TRY and find SOMEONE who has a need for the product my machine shop could build? Is that what you think?

It don't work that way. It can't work that way. Someone opens a new business BECAUSE they have recognized a DEMAND in the market place and they are going to try and fill that demand by opening a new business.
Not the other way around.

Now if you have an example of someone that spent their money to open a business THEN went out and tried to find customers, lets hear it.


One of the prime reasons small business's fail is that they failed to recognize how much demand there would be for the new business. If it was the other way around, there wouldn't be any small business failures. Right. People would just open their doors and the company would prosper.

Nope. Don't work that way.

Okay ... You are trying to understand at least through attempts to prove me wrong ... So I will explain how things actually work.

For instance ...

I saw a market that provided a service ... The consumers were interested in the market and were stuck buying the service supply offered. I opened a business that provided a different service at a higher quality. There was no demand for that service prior to my business opening.

I was able to cut the top off the market offering supply to a service that wasn't present or demanded prior to opening. I couldn't use just any employees to fill the positions ... Because the employees had to be able to provide the service necessary to support the demands of the supply. I then marketed the supply and created demand.

The jobs came before the demand ... I hired the employees before I opened the business or knew I could sell the service.

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[QUOTE="BlackSand, post: 10182009, member: 45717"]I also didn't say anything about markets providing a service ..[/QUOTE]


You are now a proven liar. Congratulations. You are in with a fine group of other liars.

 

[RDD_1210]

Because she's right. Businesses don't "create jobs". They answer the need for jobs that is created by consumer demand. It's that demand that creates jobs. Businesses are just there to fulfill the demand.

Ultimately it's a healthy middle class that creates jobs.

Wow. This thread is 175 pages with post after post laying out what that is completely wrong.
And here you are, good little drone, showing up bleating the opposite.

Just stating basic facts.

I know a person who has operated as many failed businesses such as yourself would have a hard time understanding what drives job creation.

You're excused.

 

[The Rabbi]

Because she's right. Businesses don't "create jobs". They answer the need for jobs that is created by consumer demand. It's that demand that creates jobs. Businesses are just there to fulfill the demand.

Ultimately it's a healthy middle class that creates jobs.

Wow. This thread is 175 pages with post after post laying out what that is completely wrong.
And here you are, good little drone, showing up bleating the opposite.

Just stating basic facts.

I know a person who has operated as many failed businesses such as yourself would have a hard time understanding what drives job creation.

You're excused.

You stated no facts.

 

[BlackSand]

You are now a proven liar. Congratulations. You are in with a fine group of other liars.

Yep .. You got me ... It was a market where a service was provided. Thanks for the heads-up and helping me prove my point.

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[BlackSand]

You stated no facts.

Do you have any qualitative evidence that facts ever get in the way of the Liberal agenda?

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[RDD_1210]

Because she's right. Businesses don't "create jobs". They answer the need for jobs that is created by consumer demand. It's that demand that creates jobs. Businesses are just there to fulfill the demand.

Ultimately it's a healthy middle class that creates jobs.

Wow. This thread is 175 pages with post after post laying out what that is completely wrong.
And here you are, good little drone, showing up bleating the opposite.

Just stating basic facts.

I know a person who has operated as many failed businesses such as yourself would have a hard time understanding what drives job creation.

You're excused.

You stated no facts.

You mean besides the one that you've operated numerous failed businesses?

 

[RDD_1210]

You stated no facts.

Do you have any qualitative evidence that facts ever get in the way of the Liberal agenda?

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"The Liberal Agenda"

Thanks for the laugh turnip.

 

[BlackSand]

"The Liberal Agenda"

Thanks for the laugh turnip.

I guess that would be "no".

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[The Rabbi]

Because she's right. Businesses don't "create jobs". They answer the need for jobs that is created by consumer demand. It's that demand that creates jobs. Businesses are just there to fulfill the demand.

Ultimately it's a healthy middle class that creates jobs.

Wow. This thread is 175 pages with post after post laying out what that is completely wrong.
And here you are, good little drone, showing up bleating the opposite.

Just stating basic facts.

I know a person who has operated as many failed businesses such as yourself would have a hard time understanding what drives job creation.

You're excused.

You stated no facts.

You mean besides the one that you've operated numerous failed businesses?

Right. No facts.
You clearly do not understand the difference between fact and opinion.

 

[The Rabbi]

You stated no facts.

Do you have any qualitative evidence that facts ever get in the way of the Liberal agenda?

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No, you've got me there.

 

[RDD_1210]

"The Liberal Agenda"

Thanks for the laugh turnip.

I guess that would be "no".

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Because she's right. Businesses don't "create jobs". They answer the need for jobs that is created by consumer demand. It's that demand that creates jobs. Businesses are just there to fulfill the demand.

Ultimately it's a healthy middle class that creates jobs.

Wow. This thread is 175 pages with post after post laying out what that is completely wrong.
And here you are, good little drone, showing up bleating the opposite.

Just stating basic facts.

I know a person who has operated as many failed businesses such as yourself would have a hard time understanding what drives job creation.

You're excused.

You stated no facts.

You mean besides the one that you've operated numerous failed businesses?

Right. No facts.
You clearly do not understand the difference between fact and opinion.

Fact - You have operated several failed businesses.

Fact - You're a racist

Fact - You're a pathological liar