DOGE Officially No Longer Exists
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Mac1958
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It was always going to be showbiz and chaos. Thatās all these people know, and they know the rubes are too dense to see it.
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u welcome, CP.
CrusaderFrank
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And billions died because USAID stopped funding Mulatto Sesame Street in Turks and Caicos
Another broken promise. But it was impossible for DOGE to do its job as long as Trump spends money like a drunken sailor and snatches American tax dollars which he, in turn, sends to the beggars of the world. His entire campaign was a dog-and-pony-show engulfed by smoke-and-mirrors.
Trump missed his true calling -- Shell Game Magician. But at least he wins the CONMAN of the century award. Congrats Trump. You duped the "America First" folks; all the swing states; and large chunks of the Blue States. Then you yanked the rug right out from under us. **** face!
protectionist
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Democrats say anything, even when it is laughably ridiculous. We've come to expect it. Ho hum. Thank you DOGE. Good job.
evankeal
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DOGE was established by executive order on January 20, 2025āTrump's first day back in office. Not by an act of Congress. Not through the legislative process. Not with a budget appropriation or statutory authority. Trump just signed a piece of paper and declared that a thing called the "Department of Government Efficiency" existed, and everyone was supposed to pretend it was legitimate. According to the House Budget Committee Democrats, "DOGE is an organization in the Executive Office of the President. It is not a cabinet-level agency with Senate-approved leadership and has no statutory authority to alter Congressionally appropriated funds." Translation: it's a made-up entity with a fancy name that has no legal standing to do what it's been doing.
Trump didn't even create something new. He just renamed the existing United States Digital Service (USDS)āa legitimate office created under Obama in 2014 to fix government websites after the Healthcare.gov disaster. That office had about 220 employees working on improving federal IT systems. Trump took it, slapped "DOGE" on it, moved it from the Office of Management and Budget to the Executive Office of the President, and claimed he'd created a department.
Elon Muskāthe richest man in the world, a guy who owns Twitter and runs multiple companies with billions in federal contractsāwas never confirmed by the Senate to run DOGE. Never went through hearings. Never disclosed his financial conflicts. Never took an oath. Never faced a single question from Congress about whether he should be wielding government power. The White House claimed Musk was a "special government employee"āan unpaid temporary hire who can work for the government for no more than 130 days performing "limited duties." But according to ABC News, constitutional law scholars say that's bullshit. James Sample from Hofstra University put it plainly: "Musk manifestly answers only to Trump. Answering only to the President while wielding vast and enormous power is basically the Platonic form of a principal officer, thus requiring Senate confirmation."
A federal judge agreed. In lawsuits filed against DOGE, a judge found Musk to be DOGE's "de facto leader" who likely needs Senate confirmation under the Constitution's Appointments Clause. The Supreme Court ruled in 1976 that an "officer of the United States" is anyone exercising "significant authority pursuant to the laws of the U.S." Musk was making decisions about firing thousands of federal employees, shutting down agencies, accessing classified data, and controlling Treasury Department payment systems. If that's not "significant authority," nothing is. But Trump never sent Musk's name to the Senate. Never even tried. He just declared Musk was in charge and dared anyone to stop him.
DOGE never had a proper staff or headquarters. According to NPR, Musk brought in "several young engineers from Silicon Valley"ātech bros with no government experience, no security clearances initially, and no accountability to anyone except Musk. They weren't hired through normal government processes. They weren't vetted. They just showed up and started accessing federal databases, firing people, and shutting down programs. The executive order directed each federal agency to create a "DOGE team" of at least four employeesāa team lead, an engineer, an HR specialist, and an attorney. These teams were staffed by existing agency employees or new hires designated as "special government employees." But here's the kicker: agency heads selected these teams "in consultation with" Musk's USDS Administrator. Translation: Musk's people told agencies who to put on the teams, and those teams reported to Musk, not to the agencies they were supposedly serving.
DOGE operated out of the Executive Office of the Presidentāmeaning it had no separate building, no dedicated budget line, no organizational chart you could FOIA. It was a shadow operation embedded in the White House, OMB, and other agencies, with Musk calling the shots and nobody knowing who actually worked for him or what they were doing. The executive order created a "temporary organization" called the "U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization" that was supposed to terminate on July 4, 2026. Eighteen months. That's how long DOGE was supposed to exist before it dissolved. In November 2025, Scott Kupor told Reuters that "DOGE had ceased to exist" and the government-wide hiring freeze was over. But OMB Director Russell Vought said DOGE affiliates had become "institutionalized" as "in-house consultants" embedded in agencies. So DOGE technically doesn't exist anymore, but the people who worked for it are still there, still making decisions, still wielding powerājust without the DOGE label.
The whole thing was a goddamn shell game. Create a fake department, give it massive authority, have it fire thousands of people and shut down agencies, then dissolve it before the courts can rule it unconstitutional, but keep all the changes in place and keep all the DOGE operatives embedded in government. Republicans in Congress introduced multiple bills to retroactively legitimize what DOGE did. H.R. 3072, the DOGE Codification Act of 2025, says "All rules, policies, guidance, and procedures issued, directed, authorized or implemented by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)... is hereby authorized and shall have the full force and effect of law." Translation: everything DOGE did illegally is now legal because we say so. H.R. 2006, the DOGE Act, would codify Trump's executive order creating DOGE, giving it statutory authority after the fact. These bills haven't passed. They're sitting in committee. But the fact that Republicans feel the need to introduce them proves the point: DOGE was never legal to begin with. If it had been created properlyāthrough Congress, with Senate-confirmed leadership, with a real budgetāthere'd be no need to pass laws saying "actually, all that stuff DOGE did was fine."
Democrats introduced H.R. 2742, the DOGE Accountability and Transparency Act, which would require DOGE to submit weekly reports to Congress detailing every action it's taken, every employee it's fired, every regulation it's rescinded, and the legal authority for each decision. The bill's findings state that DOGE's "illogical and erratic, chainsaw approach... has sown confusion and chaos for employees at Federal agencies and the citizens of the United States alike." DOGE accessed classified and sensitive personal data across multiple agencies without proper authorization. According to the Congressional Research Service, the Privacy Act of 1974 "prescribes how federal agency records with individually identifying information are to be stored and who may access such information." DOGE ignored all of it. Democratic Representative Gerry Connolly said: "I am concerned that DOGE is moving personal information across agencies without the notification required under the Privacy Act or related laws, such that the American people are wholly unaware their data is being manipulated in this way."
The House Budget Committee Democrats noted that "screenshots of multiple federal agencies' fiscal information have been posted to the DOGE website. Typically, this sort of information and structure is considered sensitive, which is why it resides on agency systems with restricted access. Publicly posting how it is tracked and managed gives fraudsters a view into aggregated financial and agency information, and provides hackers with the possible insight needed for nefarious actions against everyday Americans." DOGE had access to Social Security data, Treasury payment systems, personnel files, and classified informationāall without proper legal authority. The Trump administration asked the Supreme Court to grant DOGE access to Social Security data. On June 6, the Supreme Court ruled it was legal. So now an unconstitutional fake department run by an unconfirmed billionaire has access to every American's Social Security information because five justices said it's fine.
Multiple lawsuits were filed challenging DOGE's legality. National Security Counselors, the American Public Health Association, the American Federation of Teachers, and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington all sued, arguing DOGE violates the Federal Advisory Committee Act because it's essentially an outside advisory committee wielding government power without transparency. Advocacy groups and unions sued over DOGE's access to Treasury databases and other sensitive systems, arguing it violates federal privacy laws. Other lawsuits argue Musk is acting as a principal officer without Senate confirmation, violating the Constitution's requirement that such officers be confirmed. The cases are still working their way through courts. But even if DOGE loses, legal experts say it won't matter much. Joshua Blackman, a law professor, told ABC News: "By July 4, 2026, Musk will be out of office, and then something like the 'de facto officer' doctrine could save whatever work Musk did." Translation: even if courts rule DOGE was unconstitutional, all the damage it did will stand because courts will say "well, Musk was acting like an officer at the time, so his actions count."
DOGE was never a real department. It was never created by Congress. Its leadership was never confirmed by the Senate. It had no statutory authority, no proper budget, no accountability, and no legal right to do what it did. It was a shadow government run by an unelected billionaire who fired 17 Inspectors Generalāthe watchdogs whose job is to prevent fraud and abuseāaccessed classified and personal data across the federal government, fired thousands of federal employees, shut down agencies, rescinded regulations, and spent six months wreaking havoc before "dissolving," except not really, because all the DOGE operatives are still embedded in agencies, still making decisions, still wielding power. And the whole time, Congress did nothing. The courts moved too slowly. And Trump just kept saying "Elon's in charge" while Musk treated the federal government like one of his companiesāfiring people at will, breaking things on purpose, and calling it efficiency.
DOGE wasn't government reform. It was a ******* hostile takeover of the executive branch by a billionaire who was never elected, never confirmed, and never accountable to anyone except Donald Trump. And now Republicans are trying to pass laws saying it was all legal after the fact, because if they don't, the whole thing falls apart as the unconstitutional power grab it always was. That's what DOGE was: a fake department with a real body count, run by an oligarch who thought the federal government was his to destroy.
So, bottom line a non entity designed to do nothing but create total destruction and place loyalist which smacks heavily of Heritage Foundation and ******* Project 2025 bullshit just vanished after doing its dirty as work. Surprise surprise Gomer.
DennisPTate
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Or could it be that the rivalry between Elon Musk and President Trump is scripted and dramatized because if they had NOT decided to act like they were fighting, Musk could have lost not merely billions...... but perhaps trillions?
So if the Trump - Musk rivalry is scripted and dramatized ..... is "DOGE" really scrapped?
And musk keeps screwing over tax payers with his billions in government contracts.
This thread is outlasting DOGE many times over.
tahuyaman
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Heās providing a service.
Just add DOGE to another false promise and another Trump failure. Didn't he sign a $2.25 Trillion spending bill last year? And the National Debt Clock keeps increasing by a $Million every 17 seconds or so:
tahuyaman
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DOGE was always supposed to be very temporary. It uncovered and publicized many of the wasteful programs put in place. Iām not sure why liberals got all pissy about it.
A 2.25 trillion dollar spending bill is quite a bit less than what the left wanted. Democrats will not support debt reduction. This is well known.
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Deplorable Yankee
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Ohh they weren't lying
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