Doesn't It Bother You That Obama Is Trying To Gain Access To Private Emails?

[boedicca]

If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear. I said it when Bush passed the Patriot Act (and all the libturds had a coniption fit over that) and I'll say it now.

That's the issue. It's how technology will have to be made "vulnerable" in order to allow for decryption and access. It's a hacker's dream scenario.

Get ready for much more ID theft on an individual level - and major cyber attacks on our financial system.

I did see this very serious criticism, boedicca, and I'll admit, I don't understand it. I still say, not listening cannot be the solution...time for some good old American ingenuity, me thinks.

Being in the high tech industry, I have some background here. The security business to protect your email is quite significant. This email requirement will compromise much of the protections which you have today.

 

[Madeline]

That's the issue. It's how technology will have to be made "vulnerable" in order to allow for decryption and access. It's a hacker's dream scenario.

Get ready for much more ID theft on an individual level - and major cyber attacks on our financial system.

I did see this very serious criticism, boedicca, and I'll admit, I don't understand it. I still say, not listening cannot be the solution...time for some good old American ingenuity, me thinks.

Being in the high tech industry, I have some background here. The security business to protect your email is quite significant. This email requirement will compromise much of the protections which you have today.

I'll take your word for that, boedicca. What solution do you foresee? Can't we engineer against the risk?

 

[blastoff]

When stories like this pop up I always think of Project Echelon, from a 60 Minutes broadcast of 2/27/00.

Here's the opening:
STEVE KROFT, co-host:

If you made a phone call today or sent an e-mail to a friend, there's a good chance what you said or wrote was captured and screened by the country's largest intelligence agency. The top-secret Global Surveillance Network is called Echelon, and it's run by the National Security Agency and four English-speaking allies: Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand.

The mission is to eavesdrop on enemies of the state: foreign countries, terrorist groups and drug cartels. But in the process, Echelon's computers capture virtually every electronic conversation around the world.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yet there virtually wasn't a peep the next day about the government invading our privacy and whatnot.

Here's the link to the transcript:Transcript of 60 Minutes on Echelon

 

[007]

First, Obama's a fucking Nazi

Second, he's full of shit because the government already has access to all out email's IM's and everything else once you access the Internet.

Third, Obama's a fucking Nazi

Oh shut up already loonie bird, Obama is not a Nazi.

You're right, he's a commie.

 

[boedicca]

I did see this very serious criticism, boedicca, and I'll admit, I don't understand it. I still say, not listening cannot be the solution...time for some good old American ingenuity, me thinks.

Being in the high tech industry, I have some background here. The security business to protect your email is quite significant. This email requirement will compromise much of the protections which you have today.

I'll take your word for that, boedicca. What solution do you foresee? Can't we engineer against the risk?

No. Tech companies will be required to enable the government to undo secure encryption - which destroys the effectivesness of sucg encryption. Once this is done, we will be extremely vulnerable to hackers and cyber-terrorism.

 

[WillowTree]

Being in the high tech industry, I have some background here. The security business to protect your email is quite significant. This email requirement will compromise much of the protections which you have today.

I'll take your word for that, boedicca. What solution do you foresee? Can't we engineer against the risk?

No. Tech companies will be required to enable the government to undo secure encryption - which destroys the effectivesness of sucg encryption. Once this is done, we will be extremely vulnerable to hackers and cyber-terrorism.

I did hear that on the news yesterday. Many countries are telling blackberry to give up the encrytion codes or forego doing business in said country.

 

[Nosmo King]

First, Obama's a fucking Nazi

Second, he's full of shit because the government already has access to all out email's IM's and everything else once you access the Internet.

Third, Obama's a fucking Nazi

Oh shut up already loonie bird, Obama is not a Nazi.

No, he wants your email because its for the children, right?

No. The constant meme that "Obama's a fucking Nazi" dilutes the real horror of Nazis. You owe it to the victims of Nazi policy, tactics and practices to use the term "Nazi" with the same precautions you use when you handle anything volatile like nitro-glycerin.

One rightly considers it blasphemy when some crackpot preacher or oracle compares himself to Jesus Christ. Why? Because invoking Jesus' name is the ultimate trump card. The right bauer.

Tossing Nazi around like candy from a Shriner's parade float shows way too much carelessness.

 

[JWBooth]

Doesn't It Bother You That Obama Is Trying To Gain Access To Private Emails?

Obama, no. That ANYONE in government - in ANY administration or agency is trying or would try to gain warrantless access to private emails bothers the shit out of me. I cannot understand why there isn't rioting in the streets over this stuff, from the left and the right.

 

[strollingbones]

First, Obama's a fucking Nazi

Second, he's full of shit because the government already has access to all out email's IM's and everything else once you access the Internet.

Third, Obama's a fucking Nazi

sometimes you are just the best free show in town!


first do you really have an expectation of privacy on the net? i sure dont. I assume everything i post is out there for everyone to see. i dont like anyone trying to command and organize it however.

 

[strollingbones]

Doesn't It Bother You That Obama Is Trying To Gain Access To Private Emails?

Obama, no. That ANYONE in government - in ANY administration or agency is trying or would try to gain warrantless access to private emails bothers the shit out of me. I cannot understand why there isn't rioting in the streets over this stuff, from the left and the right.

you really have expectations of privacy on the net?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh shut up already loonie bird, Obama is not a Nazi.

No, he wants your email because its for the children, right?

But according to you, the government already has access, so what's the problem?

There's no problem, because we're really not a free country.

I'm still convinced that the only reason Microsoft is the leading software company is because they've allowed the government to have access to everyones hard drive, it's sure not because they write good operating systems

 

[JWBooth]

Doesn't It Bother You That Obama Is Trying To Gain Access To Private Emails?

Obama, no. That ANYONE in government - in ANY administration or agency is trying or would try to gain warrantless access to private emails bothers the shit out of me. I cannot understand why there isn't rioting in the streets over this stuff, from the left and the right.

you really have expectations of privacy on the net?

Nope, but then I've never had high expectations of government adherence to principles of decency and restraint.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Im pretty sure its GW Bushs fault.

 

[xotoxi]

Doesn't It Bother You That Obama Is Trying To Gain Access To Private Emails?http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20002722-38.html?tag=mncol;txt

As long as he promises to delete all the spam that I receive, then I'm aiight.

 

[MikeK]

Where Obama is concerned, one picture is worth a million words.

 

[MaggieMae]

Doesn't It Bother You That Obama Is Trying To Gain Access To Private Emails?

Obama, no. That ANYONE in government - in ANY administration or agency is trying or would try to gain warrantless access to private emails bothers the shit out of me. I cannot understand why there isn't rioting in the streets over this stuff, from the left and the right.

Depending on the circumstances, the government can open your snailmail if it wants. Did you ever want to "riot in the streets" over that?

Trust me, they have zero interest in the yammerings of wingers, nor their private sex lives, nor what porn they have on their laptops. So you people are probably safe.

 

[MaggieMae]

Doesn't It Bother You That Obama Is Trying To Gain Access To Private Emails?http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20002722-38.html?tag=mncol;txt

As long as he promises to delete all the spam that I receive, then I'm aiight.

I was about to say that even with all this supposedly "secure" encrypted stuff, it's amazing how a veteran company in the IT business like Yahoo still can't stop spam coming to my in box, even after repeated attempts at instructing them what buzzwords to treat as spam. I honestly believe a lot of this is just pretend. They're all run by "Peggies" who tell you want you want to hear, then they all laugh at our gullibility in believing that we're really being protected.

 

[BlindBoo]

No it doesn't bother me one bit as long as they are still required by the 4th amendment to get a warrant.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 

[Charles_Main]

First, Obama's a fucking Nazi

Second, he's full of shit because the government already has access to all out email's IM's and everything else once you access the Internet.

Third, Obama's a fucking Nazi

Oh shut up already loonie bird, Obama is not a Nazi.

Maybe not, but in this story he is sure acting like one.

 

[Madeline]

Obama, no. That ANYONE in government - in ANY administration or agency is trying or would try to gain warrantless access to private emails bothers the shit out of me. I cannot understand why there isn't rioting in the streets over this stuff, from the left and the right.

you really have expectations of privacy on the net?

Nope, but then I've never had high expectations of government adherence to principles of decency and restraint.

It was "decency and restraint" that led to ICE not tracking the 9/11 hijackers who were here on expired visas. I can *literally* live with the government monitoring ALL forms of communication where such monitoring is legal.