Does Trump really have a mandate? Far less than other guys.

[para bellum]

The Republican’s victory came from a public so put off by America’s trajectory that they welcomed his brash and disruptive approach. About 3 in 10 voters said they wanted total upheaval in how the country is run, according to AP VoteCast, a sweeping survey of more than 120,000 voters nationwide. Even if they weren’t looking for something that dramatic, more than half of voters overall said they wanted to see substantial change.

Yes, that is a mandate.

https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2024-11-06/ap-votecast-voter-anxiety-over-the-economy-and-a-desire-for-change-returns-trump-to-the-white-house

 

[JoeB131]

The Republican’s victory came from a public so put off by America’s trajectory that they welcomed his brash and disruptive approach. About 3 in 10 voters said they wanted total upheaval in how the country is run, according to AP VoteCast, a sweeping survey of more than 120,000 voters nationwide. Even if they weren’t looking for something that dramatic, more than half of voters overall said they wanted to see substantial change.

Yes, that is a mandate.

https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2024-11-06/ap-votecast-voter-anxiety-over-the-economy-and-a-desire-for-change-returns-trump-to-the-white-house

Nope. That means 7 in 10 didn't. Five didn't want him at all, and 2 just wanted cheaper eggs (which isn't going to happen.)

 

[struth]

Nope. That means 7 in 10 didn't. Five didn't want him at all, and 2 just wanted cheaper eggs (which isn't going to happen.)

your math is off.,...it's a MANDATE

and you can't stop it.

 

[LeftofLeft]

So for all those claiming Trump has a mandate... let's look at that.

Trump got 49.9% of the vote in an election where 37% of the electorate didn't vote at all.

Now, let's look at some other presidents who had supposed "Mandates" for their second terms. We'll only limit ourselves to guys who got second terms. This is an expansion on my point about how no presidents really have good second terms. I will include presidents who won re-election after getting the job because the last guy died.

Obama- won 51.1% of the vote. Not considered a mandate by Republicans, who won the Senate in the Next midterm
Dubya Bush - Won 50.7% of the vote. Lost both houses of Congress in the next midterm.
Clinton - Won 49.2% of the vote in a three way race. Got impeached in his second term.
Reagan - Won 58.8% of the vote and 49 States- Still lost the senate in his midterm, and was mired in the Iran Contra Scandal.
Nixon - Won a whopping 60.7% of the vote and 49%. Was forced to resign BEFORE the next midterm due to Watergate.
Johnson* - Won 61.1% of the vote and 44 states. Vietnam and the various riots, he couldn't even show his face in 1968
Eisenhower - Ike- Won 57.4% of the vote. His second term wasn't bad, just kind of unremarkable. Democrats took 15 senate seats and 39 House seats in the midterm.
Truman* - Won 49.6% of the vote in a four way race. Second term he lost both houses of Congress and got us mired in a war in Korea.
FDR - Won 60.8% - he still lost ground to the GOP in the midterm and the economic recovery sputters.
Coolidge* - Won 54% Didn't do jack diddly. After he left, the roof fell in.
Wilson- Won 49.2% of the vote. Got us into WWI after promising to keep us out. Republicans took the House and Senate in 1918.


* Got to put an asterisk on this one, because he was filling out someone else

So here's the thing. All these guys claimed to have a mandate, but it didn't turn out that way for most of them.

The Republicans got a mandate: The Presidency, Senate, and House. The last four years of no accomplishment and failed policies of the Democrat Party were rejected by the voters; including the voters who stayed home.

 

[JoeB131]

your math is off.,...it's a MANDATE

and you can't stop it.

49.9% is not a mandate.

The Republicans got a mandate: The Presidency, Senate, and House. The last four years of no accomplishment and failed policies of the Democrat Party were rejected by the voters; including the voters who stayed home.

Nope. Those who stayed home rejected everything, or weren't allowed to vote at all due to voter suppression efforts.

 

[struth]

49.9% is not a mandate.



Nope. Those who stayed home rejected everything, or weren't allowed to vote at all due to voter suppression efforts.

It's a mandate. And you can do nothing to stop it.

People that stayed home, were confident in the Trump mandate.

 

[JoeB131]

It's a mandate. And you can do nothing to stop it.

People that stayed home, were confident in the Trump mandate.

Actually, there are plenty of things we WILL do to stop Trump, but our best weapon is Trump's own incompetence.

The fact that he's appointing unqualified lackys instead of people who can get the job done will make this job so much easier when he fucks up.

 

[struth]

Actually, there are plenty of things we WILL do to stop Trump, but our best weapon is Trump's own incompetence.

The fact that he's appointing unqualified lackys instead of people who can get the job done will make this job so much easier when he fucks up.

It's hard for any of us to take your seriously, when you talk about qualifications....you voted for a senile man to be President...

besides whining, you can't stop the MANDATE.

You are the whining minority in this country

 

[LeftofLeft]

49.9% is not a mandate.

What is the official definition of a Presidential election mandate?

Nope. Those who stayed home rejected everything, or weren't allowed to vote at all due to voter suppression efforts.

Who got suppressed? Hopefully, it was only the non-citizen vote that got suppressed. Otherwise, it couldn’t have been the Black Vote that got suppressed. Trump got 20 percent of The Black Vote.

 

[JoeB131]

It's hard for any of us to take your seriously, when you talk about qualifications....you voted for a senile man to be President...

besides whining, you can't stop the MANDATE.

You are the whining minority in this country

I voted for a man with 42 years of experience, including 8 years as Vice President in the most successful presidency of my lifetime.

You voted for a Reality TV Rodeo Clown.

 

[JoeB131]

What is the official definition of a Presidential election mandate?




Who got suppressed? Hopefully, it was only the non-citizen vote that got suppressed. Otherwise, it couldn’t have been the Black Vote that got suppressed. Trump got 20 percent of The Black Vote.

Actually, he got nowhere near 20%. And, yes, there was massive vote suppression, which is why 6 million less people voted.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Actually, he got nowhere near 20%. And, yes, there was massive vote suppression, which is why 6 million less people voted.

You really don’t know very much.

Nationwide, 85.2% of counties voted for Trump. And comparing how each county voted from the 2020 election to 2024, the median vote margin in the country shifted to the right 3.2 percentage points

 

[LeftofLeft]

Actually, he got nowhere near 20%. And, yes, there was massive vote suppression, which is why 6 million less people voted.

Where are you getting your numbers? Where is the validation that less turnout correlated to impacted voter suppression? Who got suppressed and how?

 

[hadit]

So for all those claiming Trump has a mandate... let's look at that.

Trump got 49.9% of the vote in an election where 37% of the electorate didn't vote at all.

Now, let's look at some other presidents who had supposed "Mandates" for their second terms. We'll only limit ourselves to guys who got second terms. This is an expansion on my point about how no presidents really have good second terms. I will include presidents who won re-election after getting the job because the last guy died.

Obama- won 51.1% of the vote. Not considered a mandate by Republicans, who won the Senate in the Next midterm
Dubya Bush - Won 50.7% of the vote. Lost both houses of Congress in the next midterm.
Clinton - Won 49.2% of the vote in a three way race. Got impeached in his second term.
Reagan - Won 58.8% of the vote and 49 States- Still lost the senate in his midterm, and was mired in the Iran Contra Scandal.
Nixon - Won a whopping 60.7% of the vote and 49%. Was forced to resign BEFORE the next midterm due to Watergate.
Johnson* - Won 61.1% of the vote and 44 states. Vietnam and the various riots, he couldn't even show his face in 1968
Eisenhower - Ike- Won 57.4% of the vote. His second term wasn't bad, just kind of unremarkable. Democrats took 15 senate seats and 39 House seats in the midterm.
Truman* - Won 49.6% of the vote in a four way race. Second term he lost both houses of Congress and got us mired in a war in Korea.
FDR - Won 60.8% - he still lost ground to the GOP in the midterm and the economic recovery sputters.
Coolidge* - Won 54% Didn't do jack diddly. After he left, the roof fell in.
Wilson- Won 49.2% of the vote. Got us into WWI after promising to keep us out. Republicans took the House and Senate in 1918.


* Got to put an asterisk on this one, because he was filling out someone else

So here's the thing. All these guys claimed to have a mandate, but it didn't turn out that way for most of them.

Whatever makes it easier to sleep at night. The bottom line remains that TRUMP! controls the White House and has a friendly Congress to work with that is not going to run for the fainting couch every time he farts. For somebody like TRUMP!, that's all the mandate he needs.

 

[Delldude]

Actually, there are plenty of things we WILL do to stop Trump

Sedition and insurrection to neuter POTUS?

How third world of you.

 

[struth]

I voted for a man with 42 years of experience, including 8 years as Vice President in the most successful presidency of my lifetime.

You voted for a Reality TV Rodeo Clown.

hahahah wow, you might be senile too if you think Xiden had the most successful presidenency of your lifetime

that or very young.

Trump does rodeos? Wow, didn't know that, not surprised, he is very active and talented.

 

[JoeB131]

Nationwide, 85.2% of counties voted for Trump.

Why do you guys always think that Moosejaw Country really matters?

The point is, 50.1% of the electorate voted against him, of the mere 60% who bothered or were allowed to vote.

hahahah wow, you might be senile too if you think Xiden had the most successful presidenency of your lifetime

No, I think Obama did. Go back, read what I said.

Have someone explain the big words to your illiterate ass.

Sedition and insurrection to neuter POTUS?

Nope, we're not a dictatorship, and TRump isn't a king.

We've already taken out Gaetz. Hegseth is next. Then we can move on to RatFucK Jr. and Moscow Tulsi.

 

[Delldude]

Why do you guys always think that Moosejaw Country really matters?

The point is, 50.1% of the electorate voted against him, of the mere 60% who bothered or were allowed to vote.



No, I think Obama did. Go back, read what I said.

Have someone explain the big words to your illiterate ass.



Nope, we're not a dictatorship, and TRump isn't a king.

We've already taken out Gaetz. Hegseth is next. Then we can move on to RatFucK Jr. and Moscow Tulsi.

Yadda yadda yadda....................we won............you lost.

Here's your new theme song:

 

[struth]

Why do you guys always think that Moosejaw Country really matters?

The point is, 50.1% of the electorate voted against him, of the mere 60% who bothered or were allowed to vote.



No, I think Obama did. Go back, read what I said.

Have someone explain the big words to your illiterate ass.



Nope, we're not a dictatorship, and TRump isn't a king.

We've already taken out Gaetz. Hegseth is next. Then we can move on to RatFucK Jr. and Moscow Tulsi.

Obama left office with the worse refuge crisis since WW2. How anyone can suggest that was the best ever, is just sick

World Confronts Largest Humanitarian Crisis since WWII​

World Confronts Largest Humanitarian Crisis since WWII

The number of people around the world forcibly displaced by conflict or persecution reached its highest total since World War II, with more than 51.2 million fleeing their country or displaced within it, the UN refugee agency reported in 2014. An estimated 13.6 million people have been displaced...

www.migrationpolicy.org

Obama legacy, is a humanitarian crisis

 

[22lcidw]

Nope. That means 7 in 10 didn't. Five didn't want him at all, and 2 just wanted cheaper eggs (which isn't going to happen.)

If Joe and Kamala were all that, Progs would have won in a landslide. They screwed people over. And nary a word in what went wrong. We saw the truth in Prog politicians the last 4 years. In living color. Lifetime politicians and those heading that way.