Does The US Really Want Socialism?

[danielpalos]

The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson

That is not the Only form of socialism, and we have a better understanding of economics, now.

Special pleading is a simple fallacy.

Government is Social-ism.

 

[rightwinger]

Some things people do better on their own
Other things are best done as a society

Providing services and assistance to We the People is not Socialism

Are you for or against Gov't controlled industries/companies?

Where it makes sense and we save money....No

What? Your for Universal Healthcare and that doesn’t save $$

Of course it does.

It saves money in every country. Are we incapable of saving money like other countries do?

It does? LOL how do you know?

Because we have some of the most expensive healthcare in the world

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Are you for or against Gov't controlled industries/companies?

Where it makes sense and we save money....No

What? Your for Universal Healthcare and that doesn’t save $$

Of course it does.

It saves money in every country. Are we incapable of saving money like other countries do?

It does? LOL how do you know?

Because we have some of the most expensive healthcare in the world

And the best. Mine is not bad at all but I have great Insurance

 

[BluesLegend]

There is nothing stopping Dem's from writing a check to government today to fund social programs. Go ahead lead by example Dem's, shame the right into joining you. No? Yeah just as we thought its all faux rage.

Nothing stops republicans from writing a check to pay for their wars

Republicans flew jets into the world trade center towers? OH SNAP!

 

[rightwinger]

The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson

Yes, I want socialism.

Marx's ideas went much further than "socialism is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism". In none of his writings did he ever suggest that socialism was a system that gives people something for nothing ("free stuff").

Can you explain why you would believe such a thing that is so easily refuted? It's one thing to be ignorant, it's entirely another thing to be cocky about your ignorance.

So you find 100 million deaths and the trail of destroyed economies enticing, eh? Is it the sight of blood or the stench of decay that attracts you?

Skip the semantics and mental masturbation, Comrade ... Marxism has been tried and judged a tragic failure but I'm certain there is a "Worker's Paradise" on the planet that would love to host your enthusiasm.

Actually, it is the rot of American society that has me anticipating a new social arrangement. It is the stench of American capitalism that has everyone talking about socialism as an alternative to dress the place up.

You may have the dream that you will be able to purge millions of Deplorables in American death camps, but be wary of what you ask for.

In the "Gulag Archipelago", Solzynitzen reports about a lot of loyal communists getting "swept up" into the camps of the gulag. If this were to come down as the left hopes, God forbid, I was hoping to get an opportunity to denounce any liberal I know to the authorities.

GOOD GOD!

Drama Queen has us turning into a Gulag

 

[my2¢]

No matter what it's called, as long as the federal, state and local governments in this country keep giving corporate businesses our tax dollars and special tax relief for private gain, I want the same sort of deal.

 

[Polishprince]

The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson

Yes, I want socialism.

Marx's ideas went much further than "socialism is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism". In none of his writings did he ever suggest that socialism was a system that gives people something for nothing ("free stuff").

Can you explain why you would believe such a thing that is so easily refuted? It's one thing to be ignorant, it's entirely another thing to be cocky about your ignorance.

So you find 100 million deaths and the trail of destroyed economies enticing, eh? Is it the sight of blood or the stench of decay that attracts you?

Skip the semantics and mental masturbation, Comrade ... Marxism has been tried and judged a tragic failure but I'm certain there is a "Worker's Paradise" on the planet that would love to host your enthusiasm.

Actually, it is the rot of American society that has me anticipating a new social arrangement. It is the stench of American capitalism that has everyone talking about socialism as an alternative to dress the place up.

You may have the dream that you will be able to purge millions of Deplorables in American death camps, but be wary of what you ask for.

In the "Gulag Archipelago", Solzynitzen reports about a lot of loyal communists getting "swept up" into the camps of the gulag. If this were to come down as the left hopes, God forbid, I was hoping to get an opportunity to denounce any liberal I know to the authorities.

GOOD GOD!

Drama Queen has us turning into a Gulag

Liberal leaders like Tommy Lee himself are hellbent on punishing so-called "deplorables". Liberal leaders seek to destroy the businesses and lives of anyone who doesn't toe the Liberal Line now- guys like the Covington boys, Chick Fil A and Hobby Lobby.

 

[Polishprince]

Are you for or against Gov't controlled industries/companies?

Where it makes sense and we save money....No

What? Your for Universal Healthcare and that doesn’t save $$

Of course it does.

It saves money in every country. Are we incapable of saving money like other countries do?

It does? LOL how do you know?

Because we have some of the most expensive healthcare in the world

The best always costs more. A Cadillac costs more than a Yugo. A Mercedes is pricier than bus fare. A Rolls is more expensive than shoe leather.

 

[Zorro!]

Some things people do better on their own
Other things are best done as a society

Providing services and assistance to We the People is not Socialism

I can agree a Massive Welfare State of Freebies isn't socialism per se. But the massive amount of taxes needed for the "everything is free" society makes it impractical for people to take the risks needed for innovated new ventures.

And sometimes makes it impossible to get anyone except the government to do

If you have an opportunity to get to know a communist from North Vietnam you'll find an advocate for self-reliance that rivals the NRA. What American Progressives are pushing is weird beyond description.

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