- Sep 12, 2008
- 14,201
- 3,567
- 185
- Thread starter
- #141
This has to be the most depressing thread ever.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
The governemnt cannot simply take away anything without due process.
Of course not, so they are fully equipped to take away your money with taxation process, take away your real estate with eminent domain process and take away your gold with a simple recall like they did in 1933.
Gold confiscation in 1933; avoiding gold confiscation today
They always have a due process to take anything they want, esp when you help them by signing away your rights.
Then maybe we should wise up and take away their power
or does the ownership pass to the state somewhere at some income level?
Folks keep on saying that reducing tax rates from 35 to 30 is a "giveaway" on high incomes. Since the person earned it in some fashion, how does that 5% belong to the state so that they could "give it away?"
The rejects think because someone makes more money then them that it is fair to make them pay MORE percentage wise then them as well.
Notice how many democrats have been caught when they applied for high office, that simply were not paying what they owed. And not one of them was ever charged with a crime. And most of them got the positions anyway.
Indeed.This has to be the most depressing thread ever.
Someone receiving more handouts than they pay in taxes are effectively paying no taxes at all.And the returds think that because someone uses the majority of government services, receives the majority of welfare, bonuses, entitlements, etc., that they should pay no taxes at all.
Someone receiving more handouts than they pay in taxes are effectively paying no taxes at all.And the returds think that because someone uses the majority of government services, receives the majority of welfare, bonuses, entitlements, etc., that they should pay no taxes at all.
Doh!
The rejects think because someone makes more money then them that it is fair to make them pay MORE percentage wise then them as well./quote]
Is it right to expect a poor man to starve because you take from him?
Is it right to expect a pauper to contribute the same as a billionaire?
Is taking $15 from a $100 salary better than taking $1 from a $10 salary, and why?Is it right to expect a poor man to starve because you take from him?
Is it right to expect a pauper to contribute the same as a billionaire?
Is taking $15 from a $100 salary better than taking $1 from a $10 salary, and why?Is it right to expect a poor man to starve because you take from him?
Is it right to expect a pauper to contribute the same as a billionaire?
This has to be the most depressing thread ever.
We're establishing the principles upon which we justify taxation.I'd contend that unless that's by the day, neither of those salaries is enough to support one's self in the US and both of those persons should be exempt from income taxes.
We're establishing the principles upon which we justify taxation.I'd contend that unless that's by the day, neither of those salaries is enough to support one's self in the US and both of those persons should be exempt from income taxes.
---
Is taking $150,000 from a $1,000,000 salary better than taking $10,000 from a $100,000 salary? If so, why?
Would your answer change, if the person making $100,000 funds a cocaine habit, while the person making $1,000,000 funds several charities which help war orphans?
Would your answer change, if the person making $100,000 is a doctor, while the person making $1,000,000 is a Lehman Brothers executive?
---
Is our government in a position to make this determination? If so, why?
Why is he right and I'm wrong?He schooled you and you don't even know it.
Sucks to be you.
In what way?
He was absolutely right while you were absolutely wrong.
"Schooled"; look it up.
If you tax the rich because the poor "need" it more, then, logically, you must ensure that the poor spends it on their needs. Else, you will never "eliminate poverty."OK, it might make more sense to tax according to proximity to illegal drugs and Wall street.
TAX panels!
Why is he right and I'm wrong?In what way?
He was absolutely right while you were absolutely wrong.
"Schooled"; look it up.
C'mon bigboy, you can do it. Don't puss out now.
You're a fool.A portion belongs to the state. That's the cost of living in a society. Unless you move to Antarctica, the state/country you live in is going to tax you. And rightfully so.or does the ownership pass to the state somewhere at some income level?
Folks keep on saying that reducing tax rates from 35 to 30 is a "giveaway" on high incomes. Since the person earned it in some fashion, how does that 5% belong to the state so that they could "give it away?"
If the state can tell you how much you get to keep and how much is extorted from you, then the presumption is that it's ALL the property of the state.
Ownership = Control.
If you tax the rich because the poor "need" it more, then, logically, you must ensure that the poor spends it on their needs. Else, you will never "eliminate poverty."
You're a poseur and a pussy. You didn't give any reasons. All you're doing is cheerleading. You didn't say why he is right, and you didn't say why I'm wrong.Why is he right and I'm wrong?He was absolutely right while you were absolutely wrong.
"Schooled"; look it up.
C'mon bigboy, you can do it. Don't puss out now.
because he was right! And you were wrong!
You're a fool.A portion belongs to the state. That's the cost of living in a society. Unless you move to Antarctica, the state/country you live in is going to tax you. And rightfully so.
If the state can tell you how much you get to keep and how much is extorted from you, then the presumption is that it's ALL the property of the state.
Ownership = Control.
He was spot on. An infallible post. A no hitter.
You and I both know that asking for donations will not generate enough income to fund a military to keep the barbarians at the gates, let alone maintain a national highway system.The only solution is to ask each man to give as he is able- to ask all members of society to contribute as they are able to ensure society as a whole can continue to thrive.