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Did Jesus ever say anything forbidding incest?It seems odd though because it was my understanding that incest (to Christians at least) is both immoral and a sin.Not so sure about Solomon, But Abraham married his sister Sarah and freely admitted it in Genesis 20:12
And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
I don't think there can be much doubt about incest here, and not much doubt God condoned it.
But we're talking the Old Testament here. You know. The "prequel" to the NT.
The world changes with the coming of Jesus. It's really that simple. That's why we aren't "Part Deux" of "Old Testament Believers; the sequel" or OT II people.
I was just reading another thread here about the Song of Solomon. I haven't read it for a while but when I did I noticed the groom repeatedly referred to his bride as his sister and in relatively (for the time period) explicit sexual ways.
Before Leviticus it was accepted to populate the Earth, after Leviticus, it was no longer acceptable.... that's all I know...
ah, you can only pretend that those rather sexual and flirty passages were just God's love of mankind if you are born again?Why then was the bride seeking the groom at night on her bed?I was just reading another thread here about the Song of Solomon. I haven't read it for a while but when I did I noticed the groom repeatedly referred to his bride as his sister and in relatively (for the time period) explicit sexual ways.
Ravi, this speaks of the spiritual relationship with Jesus Christ who is the Bridegroom in Solomon's Song. ( The Believers - who are the church - the body of Christ - are His Bride)
When He says, Open to me my sister, my love, my dove, my perfect one...... in Solomon's Song 5: 2 - He uses the word sister in reference to a spiritual relationship - He is the firstborn among many brethren. When he says, my love - he is speaking to the object of His heart's devotion, when he uses the words, my dove - He is speaking to the one who has been endued with many gifts and graces of the Holy Spirit - the Holy Spirit is represented by the dove, when he speaks calling her my perfect one - He is speaking of the born again Believer who is washed, renewed and cleansed by His precious Blood at the cross.
My husband, who married me, is my brother in Christ as he is a born again Christian. Is he blood related to me? No. I hope that answers your question and part 5 and 6 will be coming up later so keep reading the thread for the conclusion of the Book.
Your translation doesn't actually make sense.
You must be born again, Ravi. The Holy Spirit is the author and the revealer of the Scriptures. How can you possibly understand things of the Spirit when you are not born of the Spirit? (yet)
It seems odd though because it was my understanding that incest (to Christians at least) is both immoral and a sin.Not so sure about Solomon, But Abraham married his sister Sarah and freely admitted it in Genesis 20:12
And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
I don't think there can be much doubt about incest here, and not much doubt God condoned it.
But we're talking the Old Testament here. You know. The "prequel" to the NT.
The world changes with the coming of Jesus. It's really that simple. That's why we aren't "Part Deux" of "Old Testament Believers; the sequel" or OT II people.
Did Jesus ever say anything forbidding incest?It seems odd though because it was my understanding that incest (to Christians at least) is both immoral and a sin.Not so sure about Solomon, But Abraham married his sister Sarah and freely admitted it in Genesis 20:12
And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
I don't think there can be much doubt about incest here, and not much doubt God condoned it.
But we're talking the Old Testament here. You know. The "prequel" to the NT.
The world changes with the coming of Jesus. It's really that simple. That's why we aren't "Part Deux" of "Old Testament Believers; the sequel" or OT II people.
Incest became forbidden in the OT. Think it was Leviticus. Sort of a weird thing with the Word. You have to be able to distinguish pre commandment and post commandment. So the behavior seen before Jehovah says "don't try that shit again" isn't a sin.
Now after he gives the smackdown, you're toast if you screw up. Bad things happened to people in the OT when they messed up.
Wasn't a whole lot of plea deals that worked. Smiting and all that.
I just scanned through the list and apparently Leviticus forbid all incest with the possible exception of father and daughter. That's even more bizarre but I admit I could have missed something.Before Leviticus it was accepted to populate the Earth, after Leviticus, it was no longer acceptable.... that's all I know...
Did Jesus ever say anything forbidding incest?It seems odd though because it was my understanding that incest (to Christians at least) is both immoral and a sin.Not so sure about Solomon, But Abraham married his sister Sarah and freely admitted it in Genesis 20:12
And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
I don't think there can be much doubt about incest here, and not much doubt God condoned it.
But we're talking the Old Testament here. You know. The "prequel" to the NT.
The world changes with the coming of Jesus. It's really that simple. That's why we aren't "Part Deux" of "Old Testament Believers; the sequel" or OT II people.
Incest became forbidden in the OT. Think it was Leviticus. Sort of a weird thing with the Word. You have to be able to distinguish pre commandment and post commandment. So the behavior seen before Jehovah says "don't try that shit again" isn't a sin.
Now after he gives the smackdown, you're toast if you screw up. Bad things happened to people in the OT when they messed up.
Wasn't a whole lot of plea deals that worked. Smiting and all that.
Can't find that. You got a scripture or passage where incest was smacked down in the old testament?
Did Jesus ever say anything forbidding incest?It seems odd though because it was my understanding that incest (to Christians at least) is both immoral and a sin.
But we're talking the Old Testament here. You know. The "prequel" to the NT.
The world changes with the coming of Jesus. It's really that simple. That's why we aren't "Part Deux" of "Old Testament Believers; the sequel" or OT II people.
Incest became forbidden in the OT. Think it was Leviticus. Sort of a weird thing with the Word. You have to be able to distinguish pre commandment and post commandment. So the behavior seen before Jehovah says "don't try that shit again" isn't a sin.
Now after he gives the smackdown, you're toast if you screw up. Bad things happened to people in the OT when they messed up.
Wasn't a whole lot of plea deals that worked. Smiting and all that.
Can't find that. You got a scripture or passage where incest was smacked down in the old testament?
Just put it up.
I just scanned through the list and apparently Leviticus forbid all incest with the possible exception of father and daughter. That's even more bizarre but I admit I could have missed something.Before Leviticus it was accepted to populate the Earth, after Leviticus, it was no longer acceptable.... that's all I know...
I was just reading another thread here about the Song of Solomon. I haven't read it for a while but when I did I noticed the groom repeatedly referred to his bride as his sister and in relatively (for the time period) explicit sexual ways.
Did Jesus ever say anything forbidding incest?But we're talking the Old Testament here. You know. The "prequel" to the NT.
The world changes with the coming of Jesus. It's really that simple. That's why we aren't "Part Deux" of "Old Testament Believers; the sequel" or OT II people.
Incest became forbidden in the OT. Think it was Leviticus. Sort of a weird thing with the Word. You have to be able to distinguish pre commandment and post commandment. So the behavior seen before Jehovah says "don't try that shit again" isn't a sin.
Now after he gives the smackdown, you're toast if you screw up. Bad things happened to people in the OT when they messed up.
Wasn't a whole lot of plea deals that worked. Smiting and all that.
Can't find that. You got a scripture or passage where incest was smacked down in the old testament?
Just put it up.
Thank you.
I was just reading another thread here about the Song of Solomon. I haven't read it for a while but when I did I noticed the groom repeatedly referred to his bride as his sister and in relatively (for the time period) explicit sexual ways.
The old testament does. Just another reason why Jews and Christians are creepy.
I just scanned through the list and apparently Leviticus forbid all incest with the possible exception of father and daughter. That's even more bizarre but I admit I could have missed something.Before Leviticus it was accepted to populate the Earth, after Leviticus, it was no longer acceptable.... that's all I know...
ah, you can only pretend that those rather sexual and flirty passages were just God's love of mankind if you are born again?Why then was the bride seeking the groom at night on her bed?I was just reading another thread here about the Song of Solomon. I haven't read it for a while but when I did I noticed the groom repeatedly referred to his bride as his sister and in relatively (for the time period) explicit sexual ways.
Ravi, this speaks of the spiritual relationship with Jesus Christ who is the Bridegroom in Solomon's Song. ( The Believers - who are the church - the body of Christ - are His Bride)
When He says, Open to me my sister, my love, my dove, my perfect one...... in Solomon's Song 5: 2 - He uses the word sister in reference to a spiritual relationship - He is the firstborn among many brethren. When he says, my love - he is speaking to the object of His heart's devotion, when he uses the words, my dove - He is speaking to the one who has been endued with many gifts and graces of the Holy Spirit - the Holy Spirit is represented by the dove, when he speaks calling her my perfect one - He is speaking of the born again Believer who is washed, renewed and cleansed by His precious Blood at the cross.
My husband, who married me, is my brother in Christ as he is a born again Christian. Is he blood related to me? No. I hope that answers your question and part 5 and 6 will be coming up later so keep reading the thread for the conclusion of the Book.
Your translation doesn't actually make sense.
You must be born again, Ravi. The Holy Spirit is the author and the revealer of the Scriptures. How can you possibly understand things of the Spirit when you are not born of the Spirit? (yet)