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You hit on it, nature has no right or wrong way. IOW nature has to either be right or wrong or a combination? That smacks of intelligent order. Oh yeah, and 'physics' is nothing but order. It seeks to define the obvious order of forces and things on the Earth and space.It means nature doesn't have a right way or a wrong way to be. The same nature that is responsible for biological life is the same nature that is responsible for the meteor that strikes and wipes it all out. It isn't doing any of these things on purpose, it's just following physics.
How does no right or wrong way to be translate for you into either right or wrong? I'm rejecting any and all moral judgments with that statement. Whether something exists objectively in nature is determined by whether we can observe it or not, either directly or it by it affects on objects we can see.You hit on it, nature has no right or wrong way. IOW nature has to either be right or wrong or a combination? That smacks of intelligent order.
you stated that homosexuality exists in nature? Now you say it does not.You seem to be hung up on me saying homosexuality exists throughout the animal kingdom and keep going back to animals. Homosexual humans exist. If same sex animals, which humans are, we are animals evolved from great apes, I'm sorry but that's a fact.... but if men bring attracted to and having sex with other men and women being attracted to and having sex with other women isn't how you're defining homosexuality than how are you defining it?
No that's not what I said. Let me try this again since you seem an especially dense Bingo. Pigs, dogs, and humans are all animals and all a part of nature. Homosexuality exists in each of these species including many others.you stated that homosexuality exists in nature? Now you say it does not.
Homosexuality does exist in pigs and dogs. Again you are confused. Just cause you see dry humping in animals that does not mean it is homosexuality.No that's not what I said. Let me try this again since you seem an especially dense Bingo. Pigs, dogs, and humans are all animals and all a part of nature. Homosexuality exists in each of these species including many others.
Listen, I don't really care if you want to dismiss two male pigs or dogs engaging in intercourse as not being signs of homosexuality. Do you want to restrict homosexuality as only existing in humans? Fine you Bingo. For the fake of this stupid argument let's assume that. Now what? It exists in humans what's unnatural about it?Homosexuality does exist in pigs and dogs. Again you are confused. Just cause you see dry humping in animals that does not mean it is homosexuality.
Humans are humans, period. Not animals.
Your boy friend fucking you in your ass.What do you consider "perverted"?
I didn’t say either right or wrong. Read my post again and this time read it all. We can observe organization in nature, which is antithetical to ‘blind’ design.How does no right or wrong way to be translate for you into either right or wrong? I'm rejecting any and all moral judgments with that statement. Whether something exists objectively in nature is determined by whether we can observe it or not, either directly or it by it affects on objects we can see.
In what way? If nature is comprised of matter and energy and matter and energy react together in various ways depending on the type of matter or energy or interaction then what is antithetical about biological life carrying on blindly without intent or purpose? All life on earth can be nothing more than a chemical reaction running its course.I didn’t say either right or wrong. Read my post again and this time read it all. We can observe organization in nature, which is antithetical to ‘blind’ design.
Matter and energy are organized into various forms. Look at the elemental chart. The Sun emits energy in the form of photons which is organized energy. A chemical reaction is organized.In what way? If nature is comprised of matter and energy and matter and energy react together in various ways depending on the type of matter or energy or interaction then what is antithetical about biological life carrying on blindly without intent or purpose? All life on earth can be nothing more than a chemical reaction running its course.
What is un-natural about putting your member up a hole designed for the one way exit of human waste? Now you are being ridiculous.Listen, I don't really care if you want to dismiss two male pigs or dogs engaging in intercourse as not being signs of homosexuality. Do you want to restrict homosexuality as only existing in humans? Fine you Bingo. For the fake of this stupid argument let's assume that. Now what? It exists in humans what's unnatural about it?
None of which implies a purposeful organizer.Matter and energy are organized into various forms. Look at the elemental chart. The Sun emits energy in the form of photons which is organized energy. A chemical reaction is organized.
No. You're avoiding answering the question. Calling me ridiculous is an ad hominem, not a rational counter.What is un-natural about putting your member up a hole designed for the one way exit of human waste? Now you are being ridiculous.
I don't know what you mean by dry humping. I'm taking about male penetration of another male for sexual pleasure.pigs and dogs, of the same sex do not engage in sexual intercourse, you are mistaking dry humping for sex, not the same thing.
Well, they certainly seem to have a purpose and they are certainly organized which is the opposite of random blindness. The fact is, we really don't know yet here you are proclaiming to know what no one else knows.None of which implies a purposeful organizer.
if you do not know what I mean by dry humping, than you really have zero understanding of what you think you knowNo. You're avoiding answering the question. Calling me ridiculous is an ad hominem, not a rational counter.
I don't know what you mean by dry humping. I'm taking about male penetration of another male for sexual pleasure.
Your boy friend fucking you in your ass.
1. It's not matter of "matters" It is matter of simply what is.Which only matters if your concern is procreation. People have sex for reasons beyond procreation. Try not to cry too much about it.
There is never anything wrong with thinking too much.
How could homosexuality exist if nature didn't allow for it?
No one gives a shit what you think you Bingo. You lost. The mainstream world recognizes the legitimacy of homosexuality.
Whatever you say; Oh Ye who prefers poopy pecker.So you pretty much can't argue that the butt sex or the blow job is 'unnatural", because a lot of straight people do it... so let's move on, shall we?
I think it's more along the lines of men have a bigger stigma against homosexuality than women do.
Personally, it doesn't appeal to me, but I'm not one to judge.
The real problem is the Plutocrats have used homophobia and transphobia for decades to get stupid people like you to vote against your own interests. That there's someone doing the gay stuff out there has no real effect on your life. But you get angry about it anyway.
Meanwhile the wealthy keep taking more and more of the wealth you create, and each generation has less than the one before it. And you just hum along being upset that you have to use someone's preferred pronouns.
Okay, so now you've moved away from "it's unnatural" to "it's against man's law!"
Fair enough.
Okay, there's reason why murder and rape are illegal. They do real harm to other human beings.
But if everyone in the homosexual relationship is a consenting adult, um, I'm just not seeing the problem here.
