Doctor Revolt in California

[Freewill]

Here's another so-called 'unintended consequence' of Obamacare. Shame no one read the fucking bill before they shoved it through. Either the ones who supported it really are ignorant of what is in it or they just don't care because it doesn't apply to them.

Now Obama wants to cut medical benefits for military and retired military, no doubt to force them into the exchanges. If they can't afford it, well, too bad so sad.

Polls show that the young people just aren't interested in enrolling in Obamacare and I hope the entire law implodes.

It's going to get really bad. More people are without insurance now than when they started fixing things, costs are way up and we'll have less doctors. At what point do they admit that their solution is only making things worse?

To answer you rhetorical question, NEVER would be my answer.

What we are seeing is the result of all things liberal. Their stated intent was to lower cost and enroll more people. Which, as we are apparently seeing, the exact opposite is happening. Which is always the result of the stated intent of liberals.

CA is just what we need, cut rate doctors performing surgery. I think the motto for Obamacare should be "don't get sick."

 

[Edgetho]

6 Year Old With Rare Cancer Loses Health Care Plan Because Of Obamacare

6-Year-Old Girl?s Cancer Fight Complicated by Health Plan Cancellation | Fox News Insider

Just another one of those “propaganda stories”, I’m sure…

Via Fox News:

Four months ago, 6-year-old Ellie Porter was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer. While she’s been fighting for her life, her father has been fighting against ObamaCare because his family’s plan was canceled because it didn’t comply with the Affordable Care Act’s standards.

Dr. Paul Porter, Ellie’s father, joined Fox and Friends this morning. Porter says that the family was “very happy” with their insurance coverage and that Ellie’s care was being covered.

When he received word that his policy was being canceled, Porter reveals that he was frustrated and scared. “It’s just adding something for us that we didn’t need at this current time.”

The family’s current policy costs $364.13 a month while an ObamaCare-compliant policy would run them $783.75.

Ellie starts another round of chemotherapy today.

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We know what the liberal response to this is: "Let her die. Just think of all the good obama is doing by insuring people who didn't have insurance before. Things like this were bound to happen and if this unimportant little white girl has to die for the greater good? So be it."

You people always thought I was being an ass when I call dimocraps the scum of the Earth? Wrong. It was, and still is, what they are.

As to the Doctors in California and some ignorant dimocrap retard trying to explain economics to us?

He reminds me of the little boys selling watermelons for $.20 apiece when they paid a quarter each for them. They decided to buy a truck and make the loss up in volume.

dimocraps are not only the scum of the Earth they're really, really stupid

 

[longknife]

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Try this = 70% of California doctors boycotting Obamacare exchange

 

[Katzndogz]

Yep, the commiecrats in CA will soon sink it like Detroit. Come on to TX CA docs.

You really do not understand economics, do you?
If doctors in California do not accept medicare patients they can expect to see a large drop in the number of patients in their practice. As the patients get fewer and fewer the profits become less and less. The fact of the matter is that if people cannot afford the doctor they will not go to the doctor! The bottom line is this, those doctors who initially decide not to accept medicare will be forced to do one of three things.
1) To rebuild their practice they will have to lower their rates.
2) They will have to re-evaluate their positions on medicare.
3) The will have to leave their profession and seek work elsewhere. The problem is this, they have special training in medicine and little training in anything else. That means they will be pushed into the poor jobs market with few skills to sell.
Some of you will say how terrible this is and the doctor shortage will be a huge problem. Wrong. There is such a thing as a physicans assistant or PA. A PA can do many of the same simple tasks that a doctor does and they can gain those skills in two years. The PA's are under a doctor's watch but one doctor can have several PA's.
Let me give you an example. My wife has a failed back. Implanted in her abdomen is a small pump that delivers medicine directly to her spine. The pump needs to be filled about every 6 weeks. However, when she gets the pump filled she does not see the doctor. She sees a PA who fills the pump. If the PA sees anything out of order she reports it to the doctor and then he takes over. She hasn't see her pain doctor in 2+ years.

Let me give you an example. My doctor bailed as soon as obama won the election. He wasn't going to try to struggle through. His office is now staffed by a PA under the supervision of a floating doctor. I have some minor but chronic conditions that need to be monitored. Because the new structure of the medical practice demands electronic records, the PA gave me a complete medical evaluation. She diagnosed me as having arthritis, acid-reflux, diabetes, copd/emphysemia and heart disease. Except, I actually do not have ANY of those conditions. The PA said that these conditions were very common among people my age and if I didn't have them, it would be thought that she missed them. The prescription for dealing with these various conditions was to become a regular watcher of the Dr. Oz show and take a pinch of tumeric every day.

Because of my electronic medical records I now get telemarketers regularly calling me offering "free" diabetes testing supplies. When I tell them I don't actually have diabetes, they urge me to accept the testing supplies because they are free.

Doctors cannot afford to take patients that it costs more to treat than what they get on their reimbursement schedule. What doctors are really doing, rather than what people think they are doing, is going to all cash or concierge service. Entire hospitals are forming their own concierge networks. This has a benefit to maximize income by the simple act of not having someone process insurance claims. The people who prepared, submitted and followed up on insurance payments are just out of work. By going to all payment for services received, doctors make more money and don't need such a large number of patients to pay the rent! While my general doctor has turned out to be an incompetent PA, I pay my gynocologist in cash. Each visit is $50.00, including all lab fees. Because she has moved to payment for services, there is no waiting, I see a real doctor. Even doctors who see medicare patients limit the size of their medicare patients to no more than ten percent of their patient load.

I know several people who have moved to a concierge service. They pay once a year, for minor visits the doctor comes to their home. They pay nothing for individual doctor visits. It's all covered under the yearly payment. There are specialists in the concierge network also covered by the yearly payment. The hospital in the concierge network is Cedars Sinai. Cedars also sees medicare, obamacare and medicaid patients. You just don't get a doctor, you get a student or a PA or even a nursing assistant. Your room isn't as good.

As the patients become fewer and fewer, the doctors work less and actually make more money. The poor are relegated to clinics and county services where the "doctors" are mostly students who are supplemented by physician's assistants and nurses. You can get an advanced student or a newbie. You won't actually know this of course. They are all "doctor" to you.

As doctors bail on obamacare, there will be only two options. Either accept that the medical care available to those unable to pay is severely limited to none or prohibit medical licenses to doctors who refuse to be in the obamacare network. In that case, doctors will simply leave the US like so many other professionals have done.

 

[longknife]

One point - doctors practicing in rural areas make a better living than those in the cities.

No link but check it out for yourself.

They drastically reduce administrative staff and work with people who pay cash for their care instead of forced medical coverage. Cost of living lower as is the rent on their office spaces. In fact, some can practice right out of their homes.

So, drive 'em out of California and perhaps they will provide medical care to the millions of Americans who WORK for a living and need it.!!!!!

 

[GreenEggsNSpam]

Doctors better move out of california quickly before moonhead takes notice, you know he will push thru an exit tax! either that or build a wall.