Do You View Socialism Positively?

[Bfgrn]

Dumb thread.

Why would anyone advocate oppression?

Well, look at the numbers.

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

You see it in here every single day.

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As opposed to you and your ilk?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Dumb thread.

Why would anyone advocate oppression?

Not just oppression, but oppression justified by calling it "the right thing to do".

 

[Mac1958]

Dumb thread.

Why would anyone advocate oppression?

Well, look at the numbers.

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

You see it in here every single day.

.

As opposed to you and your ilk?

Blatant deflection noted.

I'll assume you're admitting I'm right. Why so defensive then?

And oh, by the way, I think we should add two personal marginal tax rates at 44.9% and 49.9% (see, I'm not afraid to get specific), and I agree with the Tea Party on very few topics.

Did you think you "had" me there?

Do you think you could be more wrong?

Partisan ideologues are just too freakin' easy.

Speaking of "brainwashed".



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[Bfgrn]

Dumb thread.

Why would anyone advocate oppression?

Well, look at the numbers.

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

You see it in here every single day.

.

As opposed to you and your ilk?

Blatant deflection noted.

I'll assume you're admitting I'm right. Why so defensive then?

And oh, by the way, I think we should add two personal marginal tax rates at 44.9% and 49.9% (see, I'm not afraid to get specific), and I agree with the Tea Party on very few topics.

Did you think you "had" me there?

Do you think you could be more wrong?

Partisan ideologues are just too freakin' easy.

Speaking of "brainwashed".



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You are the biggest liar on this board. You feign non partisanship, then you ALWAYS side with the right, IMMEDIATELY, without hesitation.

Why don't you do yourself a favor and educate yourself on what authoritarianism is and what side of the aisle it it TOTALLY dominated by.

Here is a hint...

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

 

[Mac1958]

Dumb thread.

Why would anyone advocate oppression?

Well, look at the numbers.

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

You see it in here every single day.

.

As opposed to you and your ilk?

Blatant deflection noted.

I'll assume you're admitting I'm right. Why so defensive then?

And oh, by the way, I think we should add two personal marginal tax rates at 44.9% and 49.9% (see, I'm not afraid to get specific), and I agree with the Tea Party on very few topics.

Did you think you "had" me there?

Do you think you could be more wrong?

Partisan ideologues are just too freakin' easy.

Speaking of "brainwashed".



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You are the biggest liar on this board. You feign non partisanship, then you ALWAYS side with the right, IMMEDIATELY, without hesitation.

I see.

What are my positions on foreign policy, war, personal income taxation (see above, maybe?), gay rights, abortion and health care, all of which I have discussed thoroughly on this board?

Your partisan ideology has blinded you. Absolutely blinded you.

Not my problem.

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[nodoginnafight]

No, I do not view socialism positively.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Liberals are well known for false flag operations? NAME 'EM you asshole?

#1:

One of two people suspected of shattering 11 windows Tuesday morning at the state Democratic Party headquarters has an arrest record and a history of helping a Democratic political candidate, public records show.
​

#2- #197 - An entire website devoted to recording liberal efforts on the fake hate crime front.

 

[Youch]

Dumb thread.

Why would anyone advocate oppression?

Well, look at the numbers.

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

You see it in here every single day.

.

As opposed to you and your ilk?

Blatant deflection noted.

I'll assume you're admitting I'm right. Why so defensive then?

And oh, by the way, I think we should add two personal marginal tax rates at 44.9% and 49.9% (see, I'm not afraid to get specific), and I agree with the Tea Party on very few topics.

Did you think you "had" me there?

Do you think you could be more wrong?

Partisan ideologues are just too freakin' easy.

Speaking of "brainwashed".



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Right about what? Are you advocating socialism?

Had you? I don't want to have you. I am squashing any notion that socialism is a good thing.

Defensive? Nay, I'm on the offensive. Play with me. Please.

 

[Mac1958]

Dumb thread.

Why would anyone advocate oppression?

Well, look at the numbers.

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

You see it in here every single day.

.

As opposed to you and your ilk?

Blatant deflection noted.

I'll assume you're admitting I'm right. Why so defensive then?

And oh, by the way, I think we should add two personal marginal tax rates at 44.9% and 49.9% (see, I'm not afraid to get specific), and I agree with the Tea Party on very few topics.

Did you think you "had" me there?

Do you think you could be more wrong?

Partisan ideologues are just too freakin' easy.

Speaking of "brainwashed".



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Right about what? Are you advocating socialism?

Had you? I don't want to have you. I am squashing any notion that socialism is a good thing.

Defensive? Nay, I'm on the offensive. Play with me. Please.

My response was to Bfgrn.

.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

EB: do you think Jefferson was against commerce? Did he want to make commerce illegal?

BFGRN:Notes on the State of Virginia



dear, question was do you want to make commerce illegal. Do you think Jefferson did?

Also, 1784 was early on for Jefferson. In the next century he was president and placed an embargo on maufactured goods from Europe thus forcing Americans to manufacture what they needed.
Isn't learning fun?

 

[Youch]

Are people here actually advocating socialism? If so, please justify such historical stupidity. Then we can discuss the topic rather then each other.

 

[Youch]

Dumb thread.

Why would anyone advocate oppression?

Well, look at the numbers.

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

You see it in here every single day.

.

Yes, ignorance is bliss until dangerous.

 

[Bfgrn]

Dumb thread.

Why would anyone advocate oppression?

Well, look at the numbers.

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

You see it in here every single day.

.

As opposed to you and your ilk?

Blatant deflection noted.

I'll assume you're admitting I'm right. Why so defensive then?

And oh, by the way, I think we should add two personal marginal tax rates at 44.9% and 49.9% (see, I'm not afraid to get specific), and I agree with the Tea Party on very few topics.

Did you think you "had" me there?

Do you think you could be more wrong?

Partisan ideologues are just too freakin' easy.

Speaking of "brainwashed".



.

You are the biggest liar on this board. You feign non partisanship, then you ALWAYS side with the right, IMMEDIATELY, without hesitation.

I see.

What are my positions on foreign policy, war, personal income taxation (see above, maybe?), gay rights, abortion and health care, all of which I have discussed thoroughly on this board?

Your partisan ideology has blinded you. Absolutely blinded you.

Not my problem.

.

It's getting old. You keep spouting the same BS, Yet on every thread you ALWAYS side with the right, IMMEDIATELY, without hesitation.

“If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.”
Douglas Adams

It is a lot tougher being a liberal. We actually THINK. It would be so much easier to be a right wing pea brain.

ALL our problems are caused by government. There is nothing else to even consider. Our beloved captains of industry and Wall Street bankers are always the good guys. And all we have to do is get government off their backs and PRESTO...they will suddenly stop swindling the people, they will suddenly stop polluting our environment and they will suddenly offer health insurance that isn't garbage..

 

[Youch]

Well, look at the numbers.

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

You see it in here every single day.

.

As opposed to you and your ilk?

Blatant deflection noted.

I'll assume you're admitting I'm right. Why so defensive then?

And oh, by the way, I think we should add two personal marginal tax rates at 44.9% and 49.9% (see, I'm not afraid to get specific), and I agree with the Tea Party on very few topics.

Did you think you "had" me there?

Do you think you could be more wrong?

Partisan ideologues are just too freakin' easy.

Speaking of "brainwashed".



.

You are the biggest liar on this board. You feign non partisanship, then you ALWAYS side with the right, IMMEDIATELY, without hesitation.

I see.

What are my positions on foreign policy, war, personal income taxation (see above, maybe?), gay rights, abortion and health care, all of which I have discussed thoroughly on this board?

Your partisan ideology has blinded you. Absolutely blinded you.

Not my problem.

.

It's getting old. You keep spouting the same BS, Yet on every thread you ALWAYS side with the right, IMMEDIATELY, without hesitation.

“If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.”
Douglas Adams

It is a lot tougher being a liberal. We actually THINK. It would be so much easier to be a right wing pea brain.

ALL our problems are caused by government. There is nothing else to even consider. Our beloved captains of industry and Wall Street bankers are always the good guys. And all we have to do is get government off their backs and PRESTO...they will suddenly stop swindling the people, they will suddenly stop polluting our environment and they will suddenly offer health insurance that isn't garbage..

Are you aware that you just contradicted yourself in a big, Big, BIG way?

That aside (which is hard to ignore), please explain how liberalism is "thinking?" What historic precedent do you have that supports the sustainability of your ideology?

 

[Rikurzhen]

Are people here actually advocating socialism? If so, please justify such historical stupidity. Then we can discuss the topic rather then each other.

They're all fanatics who adhere to the position "True communism has never been tried before."

 

[Mac1958]

Well, look at the numbers.

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

You see it in here every single day.

.

As opposed to you and your ilk?

Blatant deflection noted.

I'll assume you're admitting I'm right. Why so defensive then?

And oh, by the way, I think we should add two personal marginal tax rates at 44.9% and 49.9% (see, I'm not afraid to get specific), and I agree with the Tea Party on very few topics.

Did you think you "had" me there?

Do you think you could be more wrong?

Partisan ideologues are just too freakin' easy.

Speaking of "brainwashed".



.

You are the biggest liar on this board. You feign non partisanship, then you ALWAYS side with the right, IMMEDIATELY, without hesitation.

I see.

What are my positions on foreign policy, war, personal income taxation (see above, maybe?), gay rights, abortion and health care, all of which I have discussed thoroughly on this board?

Your partisan ideology has blinded you. Absolutely blinded you.

Not my problem.

.

It's getting old. You keep spouting the same BS, Yet on every thread you ALWAYS side with the right, IMMEDIATELY, without hesitation.

“If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.”
Douglas Adams

It is a lot tougher being a liberal. We actually THINK. It would be so much easier to be a right wing pea brain.

ALL our problems are caused by government. There is nothing else to even consider. Our beloved captains of industry and Wall Street bankers are always the good guys. And all we have to do is get government off their backs and PRESTO...they will suddenly stop swindling the people, they will suddenly stop polluting our environment and they will suddenly offer health insurance that isn't garbage..

So now you're just completely making stuff up, tossing out straw men all over the place.

You're just another partisan ideologue, dime a dozen. You don't think for yourself. Everything is so simple and black & white for you people.

Always a good sign when others misrepresent my positions, and this one was a gem.

Stop lying.

And by the way, here's the post that has you so upset:

There are clearly many Americans who would be perfectly comfortable living under a significantly more authoritarian central bureaucracy.

Are you claiming that I'm wrong?

And, once again, please stop lying.

.

 

[Iceweasel]

It is a lot tougher being a liberal. We actually THINK. It would be so much easier to be a right wing pea brain.

LOL. Which is why libs rely so heavily on emotion and demonizing their opponents, right?

 

[Hum Dinger]

I believe that an economy should be mostly well-regulated capitalism.

Regulations should only exist when industry practices threaten the rights of other people, become equivalent to profiteering or thievery.

However, certain vital industries and industries that by there very nature should be socialized. Sometimes industries which really should not be socialized must be temporarily socialized to stop a catastrophe.

Public/Private corporations may be a really good substitute for full socialization.

Examples:

The guitar manufacturing industry should not ever be socialized, but only conditions for the workers regulated.

A corporation may manufacture chemicals, but must be heavily regulated to prevent poisoning of the local populace.

The legal industry exists as a outgrowth of the government's legal system which exists for the purpose of ensuring justice in our society. Yet the legal industry largely exists to ensure that justice is not served - that outcomes of litigation are determined by the highest bidder. Therefore to ensure that the very purpose of the judicial system, the legal industry should be socialized.

The medical industry is a total mess, even though by it's nature it wouldn't be one that I'd choose for socialization, the existence of the insurance industry has destroyed any resemblance to a free market system. At this point reverting to a free market medical industry would cause a humanitarian disaster. It's not ideal, but I think that the medical industry should be at least temporarily socialized.

 

[Rikurzhen]

It is a lot tougher being a liberal. We actually THINK. It would be so much easier to be a right wing pea brain.

LOL. Which is why libs rely so heavily on emotion and demonizing their opponents, right?

Conservatives think, liberals feel.

 

[Bfgrn]

It is a lot tougher being a liberal. We actually THINK. It would be so much easier to be a right wing pea brain.

LOL. Which is why libs rely so heavily on emotion and demonizing their opponents, right?

That's a laugh.Conservatism is TOTALLY based on emotion, the strongest and most out of control emotion...FEAR

Liberalism is trust of the people, tempered by prudence; conservatism, distrust of people, tempered by fear.
William E. Gladstone (1809 – 1898)