Do you think that if the blockade to Gaza was lifted today that the attacks against Israel would cea

Um, yeah, your world court opinion, is non binding. So its not really a court now is it. ;--)

Those fisherman have a tendency to fish with cargo nets, its a great way to smuggle arms into the terrorist country of Gaza.

OH and the profanity only makes you look the fool. Unable to intelligently respond, particularly since we were talking about the Gaza security fence and not the one in the disputed territories, which I fully endorse as well.

The simple truth is that the the walls are extremely effective and for whatever reason that upsets you. In fact you should be happy about the walls, the options are more violence with the typical kill ratio of 100/1. No matter how you slice it, the Arab Muslim terrorists will not be rewarded for their violence.

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Those fisherman have a tendency to fish with cargo nets, its a great way to smuggle arms into the terrorist country of Gaza.​

Smuggle is to bring things into a country illegally. According to Palestinian law, it is legal to import weapons.

So where do you get this smuggle thing?
 
This is what all that hatred, racism and bigotry got the Arab Muslims.

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And its a work of art. The international embargo.

Here's the result of all that hatred.

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And thats after they bulldozed the dirt roads clear and before the rain came and turned it all into one big puddle of raw sewage.

And terrorists when given concrete, these clowns go right back to tunnel building rather than repair any houses for the people they profess to care so much about.

Terrorists can live behind a wall, a security zone and in filth for as long as it takes. The embargo will continue without relent.

Terrorists brought it all on yourselves, you only have yourselves to blame.

So whenever I see some fool throw a tantrum on the internet it just makes me smile. Knowing that the wall is having its intended effect.

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Good proof of Israel's war crimes, thanks.
 
What you're constantly forgetting is that there was no 'fing blockade before Hamas terrorist animals came to rule Gaza.

Case closed.

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What you're forgetting, is that it's none of your god-damn business, who Gazan's choose to represent them.

Is that the best answer you got, Big Mouth Little Brain? Why wasn't there a blockade before Gaza came under Hamas terrorist rule?
There was.
 
Resorting to outright lies Tinmore simply isn't going to further your argument.

The Arab league declared war on May 15 1948 after centuries of racist and bigoted pogroms designed to slaughter or drive the Judaic people from the area.

Long before there was ever an embargo or a wall or restrictions.

By lying, you only expose the weakness of your position.

There is no occupation.

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From the standpoint of international law, it is important to note that prior to 1967, there was no other recognized sovereign power in the territories. Israel's capture of Judea-Samaria-Gaza and the Old City of Jerusalem in 1967 did not constitute an illegal "occupation" of someone else's land, because prior to 1967, there was no legal or recognized sovereign power there. The Jordanian occupation Judea-Samaria and Jerusalem during 1949-1967 was illegal, having been carried out in defiance of the United Nations Security Council. The only countries in the world to recognize it were Pakistan and (in part) England.

Furthermore, Israel captured the territories in self-defense. Israel took over Judea-Samaria-Gaza and the Old City of Jerusalem in self-defense, in response to aggression by Jordan and Egypt in June 1967. Had Jordan not invaded Israel --ignoring pleas by Israel to stay out of the war-- Israel would not control Judea and Samaria today. As former State Department Legal Adviser and former head of the International Court of Justice in the Hague, Stephen Schwebel, has written: "Where the prior holder of territory had seized that territory unlawfully, the state which subsequently takes that territory in the lawful exercise of self-defence has, against that prior holder, better title."

It is also significant that U.N. Security Council Resolution 242 does not require complete Israeli withdrawal from the territories. Resolution 242 requires Israel to withdraw "from territories" captured in 1967, but the authors of the resolution deliberately left out the word 'the' before 'territories' because it was their conviction --as articulated by then-British foreign secretary George Brown-- "that Israel will not withdraw from all the territories." The Soviets tried to insert 'the', but that effort was specifically rejected so as not to suggest that Israel is obliged to surrender all of the territories.

Finally, it should also be noted that the Oslo Accords recognize Israel's right to remain in the territories, at least until a final settlement is reached. The Oslo accords accept Israel's presence in the territories at least until an Israel-PA agreement on the final status of those areas. Chapter 2, Article X, Clause 4, specifically recognize that in the disputed territories, "Israel shall continue to carry the responsibility for external security, as well as the responsibility for overall security of Israelis for the purpose of safeguarding their internal security and public order" until a final accord is reached. Furthermore, the Oslo accords do not require Israel to dismantle any of the Israeli communities in Judea-Samaria-Gaza--in effect, an acknowledgment of Israel's right to maintain those communities, at least until a final-status agreement is reached.

In short, the notion that there is an illegal Israeli "occupation" is a myth.

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Gaza Chose Terrorism Over Palestinian Paradise

"After all, had there been no missiles, Israel’s security concerns would have been allayed; its most persuasive argument against Palestinian autonomy wholly disarmed."
Typical Israeli bullshit. The occupation preceded the rockets by many decades.

Okay, if we go with that (and we should, because its exactly what the Palestinians think) then you have just proven the premise of this thread -- which is that the CAUSE of the rockets is NOT the blockade but the 'occupation'. And (let's be honest here) the 'occupation', in your mind and in the minds of the Palestinians, is ANY Jewish self-determination or self-rule on ANY of the land from river to sea. Therefore lifting of the blockade will not end the violence, but will only provide more resources with which the Gazans can attack Israel and her citizens. Which, in turn, demonstrates that Israel's security concerns are valid. And she would be CRAZY to end the blockade. You have just very clearly pointed out why there is no peace and why there can be no peace. The root cause is the Palestinian belief that the Jewish people have no rights.
 
Resorting to outright lies Tinmore simply isn't going to further your argument.

The Arab league declared war on May 15 1948 after centuries of racist and bigoted pogroms designed to slaughter or drive the Judaic people from the area.

Long before there was ever an embargo or a wall or restrictions.

By lying, you only expose the weakness of your position.

There is no occupation.
The Arab league declared war on May 15 1948​

So, what does that have to do with the Palestinians?
 
Gaza Chose Terrorism Over Palestinian Paradise

"After all, had there been no missiles, Israel’s security concerns would have been allayed; its most persuasive argument against Palestinian autonomy wholly disarmed."
Typical Israeli bullshit. The occupation preceded the rockets by many decades.

Okay, if we go with that (and we should, because its exactly what the Palestinians think) then you have just proven the premise of this thread -- which is that the CAUSE of the rockets is NOT the blockade but the 'occupation'. And (let's be honest here) the 'occupation', in your mind and in the minds of the Palestinians, is ANY Jewish self-determination or self-rule on ANY of the land from river to sea. Therefore lifting of the blockade will not end the violence, but will only provide more resources with which the Gazans can attack Israel and her citizens. Which, in turn, demonstrates that Israel's security concerns are valid. And she would be CRAZY to end the blockade. You have just very clearly pointed out why there is no peace and why there can be no peace. The root cause is the Palestinian belief that the Jewish people have no rights.
No, actually it is about the occupation of Palestine.
 
No, actually it is about the occupation of Palestine.

It is the belief that ONLY Arab Muslims have rights to self-determination and self-rule in Palestine and that the Jewish people have NO rights in Palestine.
 
We agree. But people shooting rockets at us...
Is a direct result of you shooting missiles at them and making their lives a living hell for the last 70 years.

and building tunnels to kidnap or murder us...
They're building tunnels to bring in food and materials necessary to sustain life. According to the UN, if this immoral and illegal blockade doesn't end, the entire area will be unlivable by 2020.

and sending suicide bombers to blow us up...
Is a result of you sending drones to blow them up.

and importing weapons to achieve these goals ARE OUR BUSINESS.
Wrong! Importing weapons into Israel is your business. What happens in areas that are not Israel, is not Israel's fucking business.

So how does one protect the lives of innocent people?
Since you're so willing to punish 1.5 million innocent people, you're not qualified to answer that question.

We prevent people bringing weapons into a place.
A place that is not yours and you have no jurisdiction to prevent it. Do you think you have a right to come into my house and tell me what to do?

We put up a security perimeter and check everything coming in to the place and everything going out of the place. Pretty simple solution. Also a pretty peaceful solution.
And when it is determined the person has no weapons, you still refuse passage. How is that peaceful?

You won't even let a Palestinian author go to New York for a book signing, how peaceful is that?

Insisting that Palestinians are not responsible for the violence they inflict on others is support for terrorism. There is absolutely no reason to support terrorism.
Since August 2014, you attacked Gaza 696 times, they shot back 29 rockets; and yet, you claim, they're the terrorists?
 
Repeating the propaganda doesn't make it any more accurate. Palestinians as a people were invented in 1967 when Arafat ( an Egyptian ) used the term to describe the defeated Arab Muslims holding Jordanian citizenship in the disputed territories.

They are culturally indistinguishable from Jordanians

The Israeli's are predominantly returnees from the immediate vicinity of Israel. 37% its the largest single component of Israeli demographics. So again your statement that the Israeli's are foreigners is simply not true. Today most Israeli's are natural born citizens.

The truth will out

The embargo will remain just as it should and no concessions will be made. I dont see how your last dozen or so posts are anywhere near on topic
 
You can kick and scream like a kid having a tantrum all you want but the restrictions only get stronger and the wall will only get taller.

Actually it warms my heart to hear all the freaking out as it only proves the effectiveness of the response. Had the terrorists not constantly attacked innocent Israeli civilians, they wouldn't find themselves in the position they are in today.

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Staring at a wall from about 300 meters way like good little terrorists.

The embargo is a peaceful solution to end a war Israel never wanted.
 
Hah? You aren't making any sense, which isn't unusual in your case. Here's the order of events:

Gaza ---> elects Hamas ----> Islamic terrorists ---------> shoot rockets at Israel ---------> Israel places blockade ----------> Big Mouth whines


In 2004 --->Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin----> said “that Hamas could accept a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip”, with Hamas offering a long-term truce in exchange for withdrawal from the territories ---------> Israel's response---------> It assassinates Hamas founder on March 22, 2004 ----------> Roudy wine's.

Even when peace is offered, Israel rejects it.

The question in the OP is directed at the wrong people. If the blockade ended, would the violence cease? No. Because Israel does not want peace.
 
Hah? You aren't making any sense, which isn't unusual in your case. Here's the order of events:

Gaza ---> elects Hamas ----> Islamic terrorists ---------> shoot rockets at Israel ---------> Israel places blockade ----------> Big Mouth whines


In 2004 --->Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin----> said “that Hamas could accept a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip”, with Hamas offering a long-term truce in exchange for withdrawal from the territories ---------> Israel's response---------> It assassinates Hamas founder on March 22, 2004 ----------> Roudy wine's.

Even when peace is offered, Israel rejects it.

The question in the OP is directed at the wrong people. If the blockade ended, would the violence cease? No. Because Israel does not want peace.

Peace is not in Israel's 'best interest' and the sooner people start understanding why the better...
 
Hah? You aren't making any sense, which isn't unusual in your case. Here's the order of events:

Gaza ---> elects Hamas ----> Islamic terrorists ---------> shoot rockets at Israel ---------> Israel places blockade ----------> Big Mouth whines


In 2004 --->Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin----> said “that Hamas could accept a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip”, with Hamas offering a long-term truce in exchange for withdrawal from the territories ---------> Israel's response---------> It assassinates Hamas founder on March 22, 2004 ----------> Roudy wine's.

Even when peace is offered, Israel rejects it.

The question in the OP is directed at the wrong people. If the blockade ended, would the violence cease? No. Because Israel does not want peace.

Peace is not in Israel's 'best interest' and the sooner people start understanding why the better...

Why is peace not in Israel's best interest?
Every day Jews end their prayers with this statement: "Blessed art Thou, O L-rd our G-d, King of the Universe, Who blesses His people Israel with peace."
 
Resorting to outright lies Tinmore simply isn't going to further your argument.

The Arab league declared war on May 15 1948 after centuries of racist and bigoted pogroms designed to slaughter or drive the Judaic people from the area.

Long before there was ever an embargo or a wall or restrictions.

By lying, you only expose the weakness of your position.

There is no occupation.
The Arab league declared war on May 15 1948​

So, what does that have to do with the Palestinians?
What Palestinians?
 
Gaza Chose Terrorism Over Palestinian Paradise

"After all, had there been no missiles, Israel’s security concerns would have been allayed; its most persuasive argument against Palestinian autonomy wholly disarmed."
Typical Israeli bullshit. The occupation preceded the rockets by many decades.

Okay, if we go with that (and we should, because its exactly what the Palestinians think) then you have just proven the premise of this thread -- which is that the CAUSE of the rockets is NOT the blockade but the 'occupation'. And (let's be honest here) the 'occupation', in your mind and in the minds of the Palestinians, is ANY Jewish self-determination or self-rule on ANY of the land from river to sea. Therefore lifting of the blockade will not end the violence, but will only provide more resources with which the Gazans can attack Israel and her citizens. Which, in turn, demonstrates that Israel's security concerns are valid. And she would be CRAZY to end the blockade. You have just very clearly pointed out why there is no peace and why there can be no peace. The root cause is the Palestinian belief that the Jewish people have no rights.
No, actually it is about the occupation of Palestine.

Your mentality is exactly why there is a blockade around that terrorist enclave named Gaza.
 
Hah? You aren't making any sense, which isn't unusual in your case. Here's the order of events:

Gaza ---> elects Hamas ----> Islamic terrorists ---------> shoot rockets at Israel ---------> Israel places blockade ----------> Big Mouth whines


In 2004 --->Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin----> said “that Hamas could accept a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip”, with Hamas offering a long-term truce in exchange for withdrawal from the territories ---------> Israel's response---------> It assassinates Hamas founder on March 22, 2004 ----------> Roudy wine's.

Even when peace is offered, Israel rejects it.

The question in the OP is directed at the wrong people. If the blockade ended, would the violence cease? No. Because Israel does not want peace.

Sheik Yassin, a criminal mass murdering terrorist founder who got blown up and sent to his 72 virgin Virginians? That Sheik Yassin? Heh heh heh!
 

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