Do You Support The "Gun Show Loophole?"

[Uncensored2008]

Hand in the cookie jar and this is what you come up with????

You should lay off the gold paint chips, too much lead in them.....

I can't say what the percentage of private sellers was at the last gun show I went to, but it was way below 5%

 

[nodoginnafight]

start including classifying and registering mental health issues and see where that support falls out.

They already include that.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The NRA puts it at 10% - why would they inflate that figure?

Total sales != gun show sales.

This isn't that hard to grasp.

 

[Spoonman]

start including classifying and registering mental health issues and see where that support falls out.

They already include that.

but 90% of the people don't see it as that.

 

[Spoonman]

 

[nodoginnafight]

The honest estimates put that number at less than 5%.

The NRA puts it at 10% - why would they inflate that figure?

There was a study posted earlier where UC Davis crunched the numbers and put it at 3.4% before they went on to quote the idiotic claim that it is 40% using 20 year old data. Maybe the NRA didn't get a chance to see the UC study and just guessed, which is what most people do.

Mind linking me to that UC Davis study. I'll take a look. Only thing I could find was a survey of pawnbrokers. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[nodoginnafight]

start including classifying and registering mental health issues and see where that support falls out.

They already include that.

but 90% of the people don't see it as that.

Can you link me to that study?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Hand in the cookie jar and this is what you come up with????

You should lay off the gold paint chips, too much lead in them.....

I can't say what the percentage of private sellers was at the last gun show I went to, but it was way below 5%

You mean that show where you peeked in the door and decided breakfast sounded better???

In that time you were able to assertain the ratio of private v licensed sellers????

Pardon me for being skeptical partner. I think Bloomberg took a harder look than that.

 

[Spoonman]

Hand in the cookie jar and this is what you come up with????

You should lay off the gold paint chips, too much lead in them.....

I can't say what the percentage of private sellers was at the last gun show I went to, but it was way below 5%

You mean that show where you peeked in the door and decided breakfast sounded better???

In that time you were able to assertain the ratio of private v licensed sellers????

Pardon me for being skeptical partner. I think Bloomberg took a harder look than that.

no ffl you can't sell a gun at the show. yes bloomberg looked real hard. and had to go back almost 20 years to find an inconclusive study that could even remotely support his agenda.

 

[nodoginnafight]

This UC Davis study goes with the 40% figure.

http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/vprp/p...ce in america chapter 7 background checks.pdf

If you have a newer one - I'd be happy to take a look.

 

[OKTexas]

I just bought a car and had to register it to get a plate. THOSE BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

And those plates are a LICENSE to operate the car on public streets. If you want the car to use on your own farm or land, no need to register it.

Just like I expect to have to REGISTER to carry a concealed weapon, but for my private, in-home use, do not.

Not all states require people to register to carry.

In TX you just get a license to carry, they don't ask what you are going to carry. I need to amend that, if you qualify with a revolver, you can only carry a revolver, if you qualify with a semi-auto you can carry either.

 

[nodoginnafight]

And those plates are a LICENSE to operate the car on public streets. If you want the car to use on your own farm or land, no need to register it.

Just like I expect to have to REGISTER to carry a concealed weapon, but for my private, in-home use, do not.

Not all states require people to register to carry.

In TX you just get a license to carry, they don't ask what you are going to carry. I need to amend that, if you qualify with a revolver, you can only carry a revolver, if you qualify with a semi-auto you can carry either.

How do you qualify?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Gotta fly - great talking to you gents.
No offense taken - no offense given I hope.
We disagree - life goes on.
Have a great evening.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You mean that show where you peeked in the door and decided breakfast sounded better???

Nope, I didn't wait in the line for parking on that one.

The last I went to was the "Great American Knife and Gun Show" at the Pomona fair grounds. I'm trying to recall if there were ANY private parties selling firearms. I don't think there were. Some homemade knives were sold privately - but so far the left hasn't decided to outlaw knives.

In that time you were able to assertain the ratio of private v licensed sellers????

Pardon me for being skeptical partner. I think Bloomberg took a harder look than that.

Not that you had any credibility to start with, but if you were trying to build some, this isn't the way.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Not all states require people to register to carry.

In TX you just get a license to carry, they don't ask what you are going to carry. I need to amend that, if you qualify with a revolver, you can only carry a revolver, if you qualify with a semi-auto you can carry either.

How do you qualify?

I don't see the revolver / semiauto thing here.

Shooting requirements to qualify for Texas concealed handgun license

List of range requirements for Texas CHL
Course of Fire:

3 yard line – 20 shots:

1 shot in 2 seconds, 5 times
2 shots in 3 seconds, 5 times
5 shots in 10 seconds, once


7 yard line – 20 shots:

5 shots in 10 seconds, once
1 shot in 3 seconds, 5 times
2 shots in 4 seconds, once
3 shots in 6 seconds, once
5 shots in 15 seconds, once


15 yard line – 10 shots:

2 shots in 6 seconds, once
3 shots in 9 seconds, once
5 shots in 15 seconds, once


A score of 70%, or 175 points of a possible 250, is required to pass. The target used is a B-27 which is a human-shaped silhouette target measuring 45 by 24 inches. All shooting is from the ready position.

 

[OriginalShroom]

I had to go to the FAQ section to find the revolver / Semi-auto thing..

39. Once I am licensed, what type of handgun will I be able to carry?
You may carry the type of legal, concealed handgun you are licensed to carry under the Concealed Handgun program. You must demonstrate proficiency with the type of handgun, either a semi-automatic or a non-semi automatic (revolver) to qualify for a concealed handgun license.

 

[Bigfoot]

My wife had a Texas permit. She qualified with a 9mm so that she could carry either. We now hold two permits each...neither are from Texas but the two permits we each hold allow us to legally carry in 35 states.

 

[OKTexas]

Not all states require people to register to carry.

In TX you just get a license to carry, they don't ask what you are going to carry. I need to amend that, if you qualify with a revolver, you can only carry a revolver, if you qualify with a semi-auto you can carry either.

How do you qualify?

CHL class which includes range proficiency. Once you pass you apply for the license.

 

[OKTexas]

I had to go to the FAQ section to find the revolver / Semi-auto thing..

39. Once I am licensed, what type of handgun will I be able to carry?
You may carry the type of legal, concealed handgun you are licensed to carry under the Concealed Handgun program. You must demonstrate proficiency with the type of handgun, either a semi-automatic or a non-semi automatic (revolver) to qualify for a concealed handgun license.

Not going to scan my license but here's what it says on the back.
Handgun Categories:
NSA = Only handguns that are not semi-automatic
SA = All handguns, whether semi-automatic or not.

My license is Cat SA. Does that help?

 

[OKTexas]

My wife had a Texas permit. She qualified with a 9mm so that she could carry either. We now hold two permits each...neither are from Texas but the two permits we each hold allow us to legally carry in 35 states.

TX alone is good in 32 states.