Do You Support The "Gun Show Loophole?"

[OKTexas]

A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.

For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.

That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.

What the fuck is the gun show loophole? Every licensed dealer is required to run a background check every time they sell a gun. That applies even at gun shows, which means the only loophole that exists is in your imagination.

That's correct, licensed dealers are required to implement a background check. Jimmy-bob-bobby-jimmy that has a booth at the same show that is selling some of his arsenal doesn't have to ask any questions or require a background check to whom buys his firearms. Just the same as those that buy from a classified ad or other private sale.

Maybe you should go to a gun show or two and see what really goes on, so you don't look so foolish.

 

[Lakhota]

Gun Show Attendees Explain 5 Reasons They Want Universal Background Checks | ThinkProgress

 

[MeBelle]

Like stated in the first post, the "gun show loophole" refferes to the private sale of guns.

Gun shows were started as, and at their core are for the sale of firearms by private sellers, but many "legitimate" sellers AKA firearm stores set up booths at these shows as well.

A private sale is not a gun show.
Therefore no gun show 'loophole'.

It's a very simple question that this thread is asking is that should there be background checks for all people that want to own a firearm, or should we leave the laws how they are so crooks, felons, and those out to commit crimes are able to obtain firearms with no questions asked under this loophole.

No. ^^^^that question was not asked^^^^^

This statement was made:

could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.

You cannot mix gun shows, licensed dealers and private sales together.
Besides, criminals buy from private sales.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.

For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.

That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.

For the slow and stupid..... All licensed dealers MUST conduct the background check even at a Gun Show. The only exception is a private citizen selling his own firearms. A booth costs 150 or more, exactly how many private citizens have the weapons to make selling them at that booth profitable?

 

[OKTexas]

A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.

For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.

That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.

For the slow and stupid..... All licensed dealers MUST conduct the background check even at a Gun Show. The only exception is a private citizen selling his own firearms. A booth costs 150 or more, exactly how many private citizens have the weapons to make selling them at that booth profitable?

Yep, the one I was at last week a few individuals were standing by the walls with a sign, no booth.

 

[Lakhota]

Sooo, righties are now spinning that the "gun show loophole" doesn't really exist...?

Google "gun show loophole"...

 

[ABikerSailor]

If you buy a gun from ANYONE, you should be required to undergo a background check.

I mean.................you have to liscence your car to run it on the roads, right?

 

[Lakhota]

Unfortunately, current federal law requires criminal background checks only for guns sold through licensed firearm dealers, which account for just 60% of all gun sales in the United States. A loophole in the law allows individuals not “engaged in the business” of selling firearms to sell guns without a license—and without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.

Though commonly referred to as the “Gun Show Loophole,” the “private sales” described above include guns sold at gun shows, through classified newspaper ads, the Internet, and between individuals virtually anywhere.

Unfortunately, only six states (CA, CO, IL, NY, OR, RI) require universal background checks on all firearm sales at gun shows. Three more states (CT, MD, PA) require background checks on all handgun sales made at gun shows. Seven other states (HI, IA, MA, MI, NJ, NC, NE) require purchasers to obtain a permit and undergo a background check before buying a handgun. Florida allows its counties to regulate gun shows by requiring background checks on all firearms purchases at these events. 33 states have taken no action whatsoever to close the Gun Show Loophole.

More: Gun Show Loophole - Coalition to Stop Gun Violence

 

[RetiredGySgt]

If you buy a gun from ANYONE, you should be required to undergo a background check.

I mean.................you have to liscence your car to run it on the roads, right?

I do not need nor am I required to license a car I buy from a private person. Granted if I don't want to break the law, before I drive it ona public road I need to license it. But to buy it not even close, and I can use it on my own property with no license.

 

[S.J.]

If you buy a gun from ANYONE, you should be required to undergo a background check.

I mean.................you have to liscence your car to run it on the roads, right?

Then you don't understand the 2nd amendment.

 

[OKTexas]

Sooo, righties are now spinning that the "gun show loophole" doesn't really exist...?

Google "gun show loophole"...

Call it what it is, a private sale loophole. If you make the NICS system available to everyone that can be closed. Of course it still won't stop criminal sales.

 

[Lakhota]

If you buy a gun from ANYONE, you should be required to undergo a background check.

I mean.................you have to liscence your car to run it on the roads, right?

Then you don't understand the 2nd amendment.

Which 2nd Amendment...?

 

[bayoubill]

A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.

For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.

That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.

studies have shown that the "gun show loophole" is a non-issue regarding people with bad intent looking to buy guns...

nearly all sales at gun shows are made by federally-licensed gun sellers...

which means that nearly all sales at gun shows go through the mandated background check...

and, while there may be a few private sellers at such gun shows, they seldom have the merchandise that a criminal would be interested in...

and the number of criminally-used weapons traced to legal private sellers is so miniscule that it pales in comparison to, say, the number of bathtubs that have killed people...

 

[OKTexas]

Unfortunately, current federal law requires criminal background checks only for guns sold through licensed firearm dealers, which account for just 60% of all gun sales in the United States. A loophole in the law allows individuals not “engaged in the business” of selling firearms to sell guns without a license—and without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.

Though commonly referred to as the “Gun Show Loophole,” the “private sales” described above include guns sold at gun shows, through classified newspaper ads, the Internet, and between individuals virtually anywhere.

Unfortunately, only six states (CA, CO, IL, NY, OR, RI) require universal background checks on all firearm sales at gun shows. Three more states (CT, MD, PA) require background checks on all handgun sales made at gun shows. Seven other states (HI, IA, MA, MI, NJ, NC, NE) require purchasers to obtain a permit and undergo a background check before buying a handgun. Florida allows its counties to regulate gun shows by requiring background checks on all firearms purchases at these events. 33 states have taken no action whatsoever to close the Gun Show Loophole.

More: Gun Show Loophole - Coalition to Stop Gun Violence

That 60% lie has been debunked so many times, yet you keep telling it. Grow up man.

 

[S.J.]

If you buy a gun from ANYONE, you should be required to undergo a background check.

I mean.................you have to liscence your car to run it on the roads, right?

Then you don't understand the 2nd amendment.

Which 2nd Amendment...?

When I look at the Constitution I only see one, and it's nothing like you try to project.

 

[Lakhota]

Unfortunately, current federal law requires criminal background checks only for guns sold through licensed firearm dealers, which account for just 60% of all gun sales in the United States. A loophole in the law allows individuals not “engaged in the business” of selling firearms to sell guns without a license—and without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.

Though commonly referred to as the “Gun Show Loophole,” the “private sales” described above include guns sold at gun shows, through classified newspaper ads, the Internet, and between individuals virtually anywhere.

Unfortunately, only six states (CA, CO, IL, NY, OR, RI) require universal background checks on all firearm sales at gun shows. Three more states (CT, MD, PA) require background checks on all handgun sales made at gun shows. Seven other states (HI, IA, MA, MI, NJ, NC, NE) require purchasers to obtain a permit and undergo a background check before buying a handgun. Florida allows its counties to regulate gun shows by requiring background checks on all firearms purchases at these events. 33 states have taken no action whatsoever to close the Gun Show Loophole.

More: Gun Show Loophole - Coalition to Stop Gun Violence

That 60% lie has been debunked so many times, yet you keep telling it. Grow up man.

Debunked by whom? Please show us some "credible" sources proving it has been factually debunked.

 

[bayoubill]

If you buy a gun from ANYONE, you should be required to undergo a background check.

I mean.................you have to liscence your car to run it on the roads, right?

Then you don't understand the 2nd amendment.

Which 2nd Amendment...?

Lakhota...!

good to see you again, ol' friend...

been a while...

hope all is well with you and yours...

 

[MeBelle]

If you buy a gun from ANYONE, you should be required to undergo a background check.

I mean.................you have to liscence your car to run it on the roads, right?

How can one make a seller of a private gun comply with performing a background check?



OTOH
It's been a long time, like never, since I took my car for a run on any road.

 

[Black_Label]

A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.

For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.

That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.

For the slow and stupid..... All licensed dealers MUST conduct the background check even at a Gun Show. The only exception is a private citizen selling his own firearms. A booth costs 150 or more, exactly how many private citizens have the weapons to make selling them at that booth profitable?

Another right winger already pulled this BS on the first page. This topic is asking the question if you support the "gun show loophole" which allows the private sale of firearms to people without a background check.

It's a simple yes or no,...

 

[Quantum Windbag]

40 Percent of Guns Are Sold Without Background Checks, Because of People Like Larry Pratt

Posting links to inaccurate stories is not a method of arguing a point, you really should learn that since you are one of the biggest whiners about people not arguing points.