Do you support a 1% Federal Wealth Tax to pay down the $39T National Debt? (Poll)

Do you support a 2% Federal wealth Tax on all financila assets to pay the $39T Debt down in 8-years?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 11.8%
  • No

    Votes: 60 88.2%

  • Total voters
    68
People do not pay into and earn welfare benefits like we do for SS. Welfare is charity. Money for nothing.
You’re not paying into SS either. That’s a myth. Current workers have always paid for current beneficiaries. There no lock box. There never was a lock box. The Government does and always has just spent the money.
Progressive income tax rates mean the high earners pay a bit more in taxes.
Removing the SS cap could be a similar rationale'.
You mean like paying for welfare?
If not, figure out how to fix SS so we all get the promised and earned benefits.

Do away with it. Set a date, anyone born after that date doesn’t get SS. The government continues to pay for those born before it.
 
You’re not paying into SS either. That’s a myth. Current workers have always paid for current beneficiaries. There no lock box. There never was a lock box. The Government does and always has just spent the money.
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...you can call it a myth if you want.
You mean like paying for welfare?
Yeah, just like we pay for welfare.
Do away with it. Set a date, anyone born after that date doesn’t get SS. The government continues to pay for those born before it.
So how can the government afford to pay all the SS benefits? It can't.

How about we implement all the DOGE recommendations and designate the $213b saved to "fix" SS?

Or, we designate the $250b in new revenue from tariffs to fix Medicare and Medicaid and Obamacare? (after eliminating the fraud)

Or we can implement a new 2% "transaction tax" on all financial transactions?

Or we can bring back the estate tax?

Or we can remove the cap on SS?

Or any combination of the above to fix SS, Medicare, and the budget deficit.
 
View attachment 1229168...you can call it a myth if you want.

Yeah, just like we pay for welfare.

So how can the government afford to pay all the SS benefits? It can't.

How about we implement all the DOGE recommendations and designate the $213b saved to "fix" SS?

Or, we designate the $250b in new revenue from tariffs to fix Medicare and Medicaid and Obamacare? (after eliminating the fraud)

Or we can implement a new 2% "transaction tax" on all financial transactions?

Or we can bring back the estate tax?

Or we can remove the cap on SS?

Or any combination of the above to fix SS, Medicare, and the budget deficit.
If 1$ is collected via the SS TAX and beneficiaries cost .99$ that .01$ is spent. The SS TAX goes into the general fund. Congress just writes an IOU, but that's like me writing an IOU to my wife. We share a bank account so it's rather meaningless. You've been duped to believe that the SS tax is somehow different than every other tax the Government imposes. It isnt. It is and always has been a method to extract more tax dollars from the public it was just more palatable because they werent collecting the tax for them it was for you. They just didnt broadcast that all the extra money the SS brought in because, there were far more workers than beneficiaries was just being spent like every other tax dollar collected. Do you know what the average life expectancy was in 35 when SS was passed? 61. The retirement age was 65 when SS was passed, 4 years after most people could expect to live, and those that did live to collect didnt collect for long. That's why SS worked in the past and doesnt work now.
 
View attachment 1229168...you can call it a myth if you want.

Yeah, just like we pay for welfare.

So how can the government afford to pay all the SS benefits? It can't.

How about we implement all the DOGE recommendations and designate the $213b saved to "fix" SS?

Or, we designate the $250b in new revenue from tariffs to fix Medicare and Medicaid and Obamacare? (after eliminating the fraud)

Or we can implement a new 2% "transaction tax" on all financial transactions?

Or we can bring back the estate tax?

Or we can remove the cap on SS?

Or any combination of the above to fix SS, Medicare, and the budget deficit.
BTW if you want to make SS work like it did when it was concieved raise the retirement age to 82, 4 years past the life expectancy, just like in 35. SS will run a huge surplus the politicians will spend it on other shit and our deficit will go away. It will work as intended, just like in 35
 
Another way to start paying down the debt is to stop sending $Billions in aid to foreign beggars and another way is to stop starting wars. All that money could be used to fix America's infrastructure and to pay down the debt. But just try to convince rich pedo lovers of that. It's next to impossible.
Here is the major with projects like roads. Most may assume the feds pay for them. This is a grave mistake to think this. Federal highways are those that span states, not roads inside states. Not city roads either. Wealth taxes will be structured, thanks to democrats to only be charges on select citizens. We are not supposed to tax just some. We are supposed to tax everybody equally. And wealth is not equal.
 
You aren't promised, or guaranteed, any benefits.
Maybe not, but we did get annual reports saying what our expected benefits are our entire working lives.

For the government or any political party to pull the rug out from retirees would be despicable.
 
BTW if you want to make SS work like it did when it was conceived raise the retirement age to 82, 4 years past the life expectancy, just like in 35. SS will run a huge surplus the politicians will spend it on other shit and our deficit will go away. It will work as intended, just like in 35
NFW. I agree that the retirement ages could be moved up a few years since people are living longer, but 82 is ridiculous.
The early retirement age should move from 62 to 65 to match Medicare.
The full retirement age could be moved up in phases, from 67 to 70.
Most people can't keep working to 70 so they would need other assistance.
A declining population may require a different funding mechanism for the long term.
 
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Here is the major with projects like roads. Most may assume the feds pay for them. This is a grave mistake to think this. Federal highways are those that span states, not roads inside states. Not city roads either. Wealth taxes will be structured, thanks to democrats to only be charges on select citizens. We are not supposed to tax just some. We are supposed to tax everybody equally. And wealth is not equal.

But we are not suppose to tax everyone equally, and never have as a nation!

You can't get blood out of a turnip.
 
NFW. I agree that the retirement ages could be moved up a few years since people are living longer, but 82 is ridiculous.
The early retirement age should move from 62 to 65 to match Medicare.
The full retirement age could be moved up in phases, from 67 to 70.
Most people can't keep working to 70 so they would need other assistance.
A declining population may require a different funding mechanism for the long term.
Or….people could save to bridge the gap between starting SS and retirement. They might have to lower their spending levels to tide them over for a few years, but that would be their choice.
 
Or….people could save to bridge the gap between starting SS and retirement. They might have to lower their spending levels to tide them over for a few years, but that would be their choice.
Not all companies have 401Ks.
If you ever shopped for healthcare insurance at 62 you would think differently, its very expensive, $2,000 a month.
But true, if you have a 401K you could easily afford to retire at 62 with SS.
 
The problem is spending.

I support CUTTING SPENDING.

Raising taxes will just allow the kleptocratic elites to steal more than they already have....
 
The top 50% of Americans own $150-160 Trillion in assets.

1% would only be $1.5-1.6T which is a drop in the bucket for a $40T debt.

Not sure this remedy has the uuumph.

If I had $10M in assets... Id' owe only $100K. I wouldnt need to liquidate anything to pay that.
Cut spending

We can never tax our way to a balanced budget when WIPE EVERY NOSE is the official government policy
 
A Federal Wealth Tax on financial assets might be one way to pay down the $39T National Debt.
Another would be to eliminate all "tax deductions".
A "sweetener" could be to couple the increase in "wealth" taxes with a "Balanced Budget" Law to forbid future Federal borrowing.

Q: What is a wealth tax?
A: A levy on net assets such as stocks, and cash holdings, rather than annual income.

Q: Is a wealth tax constitutional?
A: Opponents argue it violates apportionment rules; supporters claim the Sixteenth Amendment provides sufficient authority.

Q: Has the U.S. ever had a wealth tax?
A: No comprehensive federal wealth tax has been enacted, though estate and property taxes function similarly in scope.

Q: Why is the wealth tax 2025 debate significant?
A: It tests the balance between government taxing power and constitutional limits, with potential Supreme Court involvement.

Just doing some simple math.
If there is approximately $269T of "financial" wealth in the US, and the current Debt is $40T, and we want to pay that debt off in 8-years, that means a $5T tax or a ~2% wealth tax on all financial assets, but only for 8-years.
(it could be 1% over 16-years, if that is easier to sell)

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Problem solved. No debt, and no more borrowing.
I support the Federal Government living within it's means and every unconstitutional program tax payers are forced to fund ended immediately. The States can decide if they want to continue entitlement programs.

I support a balanced budget amendment and term limits.
 
NFW. I agree that the retirement ages could be moved up a few years since people are living longer, but 82 is ridiculous.
The early retirement age should move from 62 to 65 to match Medicare.
The full retirement age could be moved up in phases, from 67 to 70.
Most people can't keep working to 70 so they would need other assistance.
A declining population may require a different funding mechanism for the long term.
Why is 82 crazy? Thats how they were able to get SS to work setting the retirement age 4 years past the life expectancy. SS is failing because all Ponzi schemes fail eventually. There are enough new “investors” to support past “investors”.
 
Why is 82 crazy? Thats how they were able to get SS to work setting the retirement age 4 years past the life expectancy. SS is failing because all Ponzi schemes fail eventually. There are enough new “investors” to support past “investors”.
I suspect that most if not all of the libs pushing for a wealth tax have very little wealth that can be taxed

They stand to benefit from a transfer of wealth from rich to poor
 
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If 1$ is collected via the SS TAX and beneficiaries cost .99$ that .01$ is spent. The SS TAX goes into the general fund. Congress just writes an IOU, but that's like me writing an IOU to my wife. We share a bank account so it's rather meaningless. You've been duped to believe that the SS tax is somehow different than every other tax the Government imposes. It isnt. It is and always has been a method to extract more tax dollars from the public it was just more palatable because they werent collecting the tax for them it was for you. They just didnt broadcast that all the extra money the SS brought in because, there were far more workers than beneficiaries was just being spent like every other tax dollar collected. Do you know what the average life expectancy was in 35 when SS was passed? 61. The retirement age was 65 when SS was passed, 4 years after most people could expect to live, and those that did live to collect didnt collect for long. That's why SS worked in the past and doesnt work now.
You need to stop right there because that is not true. Post more believable numbers.
 
Why is 82 crazy? Thats how they were able to get SS to work setting the retirement age 4 years past the life expectancy. SS is failing because all Ponzi schemes fail eventually. There are enough new “investors” to support past “investors”.
Because it is! I could no longer work at the age of 61. You going to pay my disability until I die or reach 82.
 
You need to stop right there because that is not true. Post more believable numbers.
Ummm it's most certainly true. The government doesn't put away money collect by SS, current SS collection is used to pay current beneficiaries. Any money that's collected via the SS tax that's "extra" is spent and an IOU is issue via a special treasury bond. But as I said that's money we owe ourselves so it doesn't actually mean anything. You aren't so stupidly pedantic that you can't grasp the concept because I used made up numbers in the example are you?
 
Ummm it's most certainly true. The government doesn't put away money collect by SS, current SS collection is used to pay current beneficiaries. Any money that's collected via the SS tax that's "extra" is spent and an IOU is issue via a special treasury bond. But as I said that's money we owe ourselves so it doesn't actually mean anything. You aren't so stupidly pedantic that you can't grasp the concept because I used made up numbers in the example are you?
Post more believable numbers. Isn't that what I said? Why make up numbers, dumbass? If you want people to agree with you, don't make shit up, obviously. Post the actual numbers. SSA.gov probably has them easily accessible.
 
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