Do you like anything liberals thought of?

[Wyatt earp]

Do you like anything liberals thought of?

I like a lot of thing that are liberal.
-National parks
-Clean air and water acts
-FDA protecting the quality of our medications and food.
-The safetynet
-NWS, NHC, Noaa,
-nasa
-College
Man I could keep going....

College?


So now asshat you claiming liberals started college?


.

 

[Wyatt earp]

NOAA 1970

Richard Nixon


NOAA was formed on October 3, 1970, after Richard Nixon proposed creating a new agency to serve a national need "… for better protection of life and property from natural hazards … for a better understanding of the total environment … [and] for exploration and development leading to the intelligent use of our marine resources ..." NOAA formed a conglomeration of several existing agencies that were among the oldest in the federal government. They were theUnited States Coast and Geodetic Survey, formed in 1807; the Weather Bureau, formed in 1870—Geodetic Survey and Weather Service had been combined by a 1965 consolidation into the Environmental Science Services Administration (ESSA); and the Bureau of Commercial Fisheries, formed in 1871. NOAA was established within the Department of Commerce via the Reorganization Plan No. 4 of 1970.[7] In 2007 NOAA celebrated 200 years of service with its ties to the United States Coast and Geodetic Survey.[8

 

[imawhosure]

Do you like anything liberals thought of?

I like a lot of thing that are liberal.
-National parks
-Clean air and water acts
-FDA protecting the quality of our medications and food.
-The safetynet
-NWS, NHC, Noaa,
-nasa
-College
Man I could keep going....

That's not what progressives today care about.

Do you like anything about the progressive Agenda?
- Anti-white racism
- Anti-Christian
- pro-Islam , pro-Sharia Law
- Marxism / anti-capitalism
- pro-abortion-on-demand

-I don't like anti-white racism
-I don't like anyone being mistreated
-I am not pro-islam or their laws
-I hate marxism and am very pro-capitalism
-I don't like abortion...

Mr degrowther, AKA Matthew------------>

1. As was posted earlier, liberals didn't create all those things you mentioned.

2. The far left (todays liberals) are NOT your fathers or grandfathers, Democrats.

Exactly what do todays Democrats have in common with Kennedy, especially economically? You would THINK that you who do support todays Democrats would get a clue, when todays Democrats have to import voters over the border to get elected. Doubt me!

Ok then, look back at 2012. Look at the numbers that came in. Make 1st generation Hispanic not there, and Romney wins going away. In fact, he wins bigger than Reagan did if you take out every minority that is not black, and have their population grow at the same rate as the rest of the country did since 1984, and most of them arrived here illegally, or broke their VISA contract, and are now citizens, or just stay here still illegally with using an anchor baby as a reason!

The people who OWN this country......the citizens........don't want the crap the far left is giving them. They would be a pimple on the political ass of this country, were it not for Democratic (and yes, Republican too) open border policy. This is why the NUMBER 1 issue with people in the know is.....border security, and removing as many people that have criminal records that are illegal as possible. That, and secure the vote for legal citizens only, and the far left is through.

Understand, I WAS a Democrat. The 1st time I voted Republican was for Reagan....not because of Republican values, but because Carter was awful economically. I voted for Bill Clinton for his 2nd term, and I guess that means at that time, I had morphed into an independent.

But the people YOU support now, have no resemblance to Democrats of old. Their whole shtick is to change the country! Why? We have been EXTREMELY successful doing things the way we were, and since they had Obamas policies, the economy has been Jimmy Carter like.

Now politicians lie. They all lie, from both sides. But what I can't stand is learned people coming on this site and trying to tell everyone how great things have been under Obama economically. I am willing to understand the debate that it is all the Bush administrations fault. I think it is a red herring, but at least it has some basis in fact through extrapolation. But to sit there and LIE to people that everything is wonderful, is just Josef Goebbels propaganda. And if you watch the youtube videos of honored investigative reporters that have resigned and see what they say and how this administration has handled the press, it becomes crystal clear that YOU are listening to politicians filling you with disinformation, then trying to get the rest of us to go along with their propaganda!

 

[OKTexas]

Only see one in there that could be construed to be an enumerated federal function.

I see two and a whole bunch of partials

The NWS could be for the common defense, yours would be?

FDA

No rationale for it being constitutional?

 

[irosie91]

Only see one in there that could be construed to be an enumerated federal function.

I see two and a whole bunch of partials

The NWS could be for the common defense, yours would be?

FDA

No rationale for it being constitutional?

THE COMMON GOOD>>>We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

[OKTexas]

Only see one in there that could be construed to be an enumerated federal function.

I see two and a whole bunch of partials

The NWS could be for the common defense, yours would be?

The FDA, as regulation of interstate commerce.

You are aware that the modern definition and the founders definition of regulating interstate commerce is very different, right?

 

[boedicca]

The question posed by the OP is impossible to answer as one must first buy into the supposition that Liberals Actually Think.

 

[OKTexas]

Only see one in there that could be construed to be an enumerated federal function.

I see two and a whole bunch of partials

The NWS could be for the common defense, yours would be?

FDA

No rationale for it being constitutional?

THE COMMON GOOD>>>We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

You do know that "Common Good" is not a constitutional term and the preamble is not actually part of the binding Constitution, right? But also note they said "PROVIDE for the common defense", meaning to actually pay for it, and "PROMOTE the general welfare", meaning policies that promote, not pay, for the general welfare. The founders did actually say in Article 1, Section 8 that there are a limited General Welfare items the feds should pay for, but they are very generic, like Post offices and post roads and Patents and copyrights office.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The question posed by the OP is impossible to answer as one must first buy into the supposition that Liberals Actually Think.

In Matthews case he just pulls shit out of his ass and calls them truth..


I had to fight him for like four months before he finally admitted spending on infrastructure took a nose dive after Bush Jr.


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[LeftofLeft]

Not to rehash the election, but Liberals somehow truly believe that Trump is absolutely intolerant and Hillary is tolerant. On women, Trump was excoriated for expressing admiration of a woman and her parts. Hillary was adored while standing by and for people who grabbed women's parts....with or without permission. Trump said to build a wall and is called a racist. Hillary said to do the same thing with the exception being some parts are "a fence" and nothing is said.

Trump is no Conservative. He is an independent true liberal. He ran against both Republican and Democrats to beat Washington. Liberals are beside themselves that they are on the losing side as are mainstream Republicans. Liberals can only cope by painting Trump as a Jim Crow Democrat.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The question posed by the OP is impossible to answer as one must first buy into the supposition that Liberals Actually Think.

In Matthews case he just pulls shit out of his ass and calls them truth..


I had to fight him for like four months before he finally admitted spending on infrastructure took a nose dive after Bush Jr.


.

Not only that, but liberals seem to forget what their leader ran our bill up to. We are 20 trillion in debt, and all they want to talk about is how to spend more.

The Republican Congress told DumBama he could have what he wants, but he has to find a way to pay for it. That means they told him there could be a tradeoff. Find something to cut, and we'll pass your whatever. Obama couldn't do it because he wanted everything. He'd never dream about cutting Planned Parenthood, NPR funding or PBS just to name a few.

The Republican Congress will make Trump the same offer. If he can't find a way to pay for something they don't agree with, then tell them what you want to see cut. Democrats use our money to buy votes, and thank goodness that scam is being put to a halt.

 

[irosie91]

I see two and a whole bunch of partials

The NWS could be for the common defense, yours would be?

FDA

No rationale for it being constitutional?

THE COMMON GOOD>>>We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

You do know that "Common Good" is not a constitutional term and the preamble is not actually part of the binding Constitution, right? But also note they said "PROVIDE for the common defense", meaning to actually pay for it, and "PROMOTE the general welfare", meaning policies that promote, not pay, for the general welfare. The founders did actually say in Article 1, Section 8 that there are a limited General Welfare items the feds should pay for, but they are very generic, like Post offices and post roads and Patents and copyrights office.

the preamble was WRITTEN at that same time that the constitution was first written--------to say it is not PART of the constitution is kinda idiotic -------the sentence "COMMON GOOD" is not a "constitutional term"----is gibberish

 

[OKTexas]

The NWS could be for the common defense, yours would be?

FDA

No rationale for it being constitutional?

THE COMMON GOOD>>>We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

You do know that "Common Good" is not a constitutional term and the preamble is not actually part of the binding Constitution, right? But also note they said "PROVIDE for the common defense", meaning to actually pay for it, and "PROMOTE the general welfare", meaning policies that promote, not pay, for the general welfare. The founders did actually say in Article 1, Section 8 that there are a limited General Welfare items the feds should pay for, but they are very generic, like Post offices and post roads and Patents and copyrights office.

the preamble was WRITTEN at that same time that the constitution was first written--------to say it is not PART of the constitution is kinda idiotic -------the sentence "COMMON GOOD" is not a "constitutional term"----is gibberish

pre·am·ble
[ˈprēˌambəl]
NOUN

1. a preliminary or preparatory statement; an introduction:
   "what she said was by way of a preamble" ·
   [more]
   
   
   • law
     the introductory part of a statute or deed, stating its purpose, aims, and justification.

The preamble is an introduction and is not part of the Constitution, that's why I originally used the words "not part of the binding Constitution". And feel free to provide a link where the term "common good" appears anywhere in the Constitution.

 

[TheDude]

-National parks Theodore Roosevelt was Republican.
-Clean air and water acts Theodore Roosevelt was Republican.
-FDA protecting the quality of our medications and food. Theodore Roosevelt was Republican.
-The safetynet Mostly a crutch
-nasa Republicans support NASA more than liberals. Liberals want the $ for hand-outs.
-College ILMAO.
Man I could keep going....And I could have diarrhea. Just as valuable.

 

[Derelict_Drvr]

The NWS could be for the common defense, yours would be?

FDA

No rationale for it being constitutional?

THE COMMON GOOD>>>We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

You do know that "Common Good" is not a constitutional term and the preamble is not actually part of the binding Constitution, right? But also note they said "PROVIDE for the common defense", meaning to actually pay for it, and "PROMOTE the general welfare", meaning policies that promote, not pay, for the general welfare. The founders did actually say in Article 1, Section 8 that there are a limited General Welfare items the feds should pay for, but they are very generic, like Post offices and post roads and Patents and copyrights office.

the preamble was WRITTEN at that same time that the constitution was first written--------to say it is not PART of the constitution is kinda idiotic -------the sentence "COMMON GOOD" is not a "constitutional term"----is gibberish

Wrong again Rosie...

"In fact, independence was formally declared on July 2, 1776, a date that John Adams believed would be “the most memorable epocha in the history of America.” On July 4, 1776, Congress approved the final text of the Declaration. It wasn't signed until August 2, 1776."

Declaration of Independence Facts, Full Text & Dates To Remember | Constitution Facts



"This was the same place the Declaration of Independence was signed. The Constitution was written during the Philadelphia Convention—now known as the Constitutional Convention—which convened from May 25 to September 17, 1787. It was signed on September 17, 1787."

Constitution FAQs - National Constitution Center


Next time you might want to do just a touch of research so it doesn't make you look like you're talking out of your ass.

Just a suggestion...

 

[kaz]

Do you like anything liberals thought of?

I like a lot of thing that are liberal.
-National parks
-Clean air and water acts
-FDA protecting the quality of our medications and food.
-The safetynet
-NWS, NHC, Noaa,
-nasa
-College
Man I could keep going....

Of course you can, it's easy when you just make shit up

 

[kaz]

I hate marxism and am very pro-capitalism

You don't know what those words mean !!!





Literally. If you believe that, you don't

 

[2aguy]

Do you like anything liberals thought of?

I like a lot of thing that are liberal.
-National parks
-Clean air and water acts
-FDA protecting the quality of our medications and food.
-The safetynet
-NWS, NHC, Noaa,
-nasa
-College
Man I could keep going....

How is college a liberal thing....? What you fail to grasp is that you are not understanding the difference between state, federal and private activity........and the waste of tax dollars the more government you involve in all of those things......

National Parks....could be better managed by the states.

Clean air and water.....is essentially one of the jobs of the government, making sure that individuals and businesses aren't violating the property rights of other people...so how is that left wing?

FDA, dittos, but could be done more efficiently at the state level.....and of course the bureaucracy that has made a mess of our drug programs and how long it takes to get life saving drugs to market....

You guys make the mistake of wanting a concentration of power in a central government...and then wonder why it goes to crap........

College...is more expensive because of the federal involvement......

 

[2aguy]

Do you like anything liberals thought of?

I like a lot of thing that are liberal.
-National parks
-Clean air and water acts
-FDA protecting the quality of our medications and food.
-The safetynet
-NWS, NHC, Noaa,
-nasa
-College
Man I could keep going....

FDA: 1906


Oh look who signed it in 1906?


Theodore Roosevelt...





The Food and Drug Administration is the oldest comprehensive consumer protection agency in the U. S. federal government. Its origins can be traced back to the appointment of Lewis Caleb Beck in the Patent Office around 1848 to carry out chemical analyses of agricultural products, a function that the newly created Department of Agriculture inherited in 1862. Although it was not known by its present name until 1930, FDA’s modern regulatory functions began with the passage of the 1906 Pure Food and Drugs Act,

And the food industry pushed to get this passed...because complying with it froze out their competitors....one of the first acts of crony socialism......

 

[Anathema]

Do you like anything liberals thought of?

I like a lot of thing that are liberal.
-National parks
-Clean air and water acts
-FDA protecting the quality of our medications and food.
-The safetynet
-NWS, NHC, Noaa,
-nasa
-College
Man I could keep going....

The only thing on that list I like are the National Parks. Though I think there are too many of them.