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Seriously? You ought to be ashamed. Then Colfax just defeated us all by simply posting a link to the Mueller Report.

Yet another case of why I continue to challenge not just the leftists on this site. I understand you don't think you're a conservative but you're behavior is that of a leftist.

You debate like a girly-man.
 

Seriously? You ought to be ashamed. Then Colfax just defeated us all by simply posting a link to the Mueller Report.

Yet another case of why I continue to challenge not just the leftists on this site. I understand you don't think you're a conservative but you're behavior is that of a leftist.

You debate like a girly-man.
your comparing the federalist papers to the mueller report and you call me a leftist,,,
 
Not half as amazing as someone who claims that one country has more freedom than another on the basis of his own opinion, regardless of the fact that it's measured and refuted by those measurements. I'll tell you what. Find me one source that's based on actual research and can show it's sources that refutes the study. Just one. Until then. WHAT PARAMETERS ARE YOU USING TO SUPPORT YOUR ASSERTION THAT THE US IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD?
Come to think about what do you personally consider the parameters for freedom?

Guns and a constitution with a bill of rights. That means we can defend the Bill of Rights we have. We will always be free as long as we don't surrender our guns. The rest of the world is free because of the benevolence of their governments.
 

Seriously? You ought to be ashamed. Then Colfax just defeated us all by simply posting a link to the Mueller Report.

Yet another case of why I continue to challenge not just the leftists on this site. I understand you don't think you're a conservative but you're behavior is that of a leftist.

You debate like a girly-man.
your comparing the federalist papers to the mueller report and you call me a leftist,,,

See; you're still debating like a girly-man.

I debated your use of a broad-spectrum link as proof of a single point of contention with Colfax's use of a link to the entire 400 page Mueller Report as proof of a single point of contention. But are equally as inadequate and indicative of someone losing a battle and trying to force the opponent to prove a negative. You debate like a leftist girly-man.

Man up. Prove wrong my statement that you said is wrong. Or take it back.

The Constitution is the solid, unbreakable, wall at the far end of the right. People who make up shit like alt-right, right-wing extremist instead of authoritarian, right-wing white supremacist, etcetera are lying. Racism, white supremacy, and authoritarianism are all tools of the left. There is, in reality, the Constitution and left of the Constitution. In America, that's all there is.
sorry thats not true and backed up by history,,,
 

Seriously? You ought to be ashamed. Then Colfax just defeated us all by simply posting a link to the Mueller Report.

Yet another case of why I continue to challenge not just the leftists on this site. I understand you don't think you're a conservative but you're behavior is that of a leftist.

You debate like a girly-man.
your comparing the federalist papers to the mueller report and you call me a leftist,,,

See; you're still debating like a girly-man.

I debated your use of a broad-spectrum link as proof of a single point of contention with Colfax's use of a link to the entire 400 page Mueller Report as proof of a single point of contention. But are equally as inadequate and indicative of someone losing a battle and trying to force the opponent to prove a negative. You debate like a leftist girly-man.

Man up. Prove wrong my statement that you said is wrong. Or take it back.

The Constitution is the solid, unbreakable, wall at the far end of the right. People who make up shit like alt-right, right-wing extremist instead of authoritarian, right-wing white supremacist, etcetera are lying. Racism, white supremacy, and authoritarianism are all tools of the left. There is, in reality, the Constitution and left of the Constitution. In America, that's all there is.
sorry thats not true and backed up by history,,,
the founding of this country is the bedrock of my point,,,and everything you need to know is in there that proves the political scale in this country is
far left is total government (pick your own form) the far right is absence of government anarchy is as good description as any,,,

first came the articles of confederation and when that didnt work they came back and created the constitution which sets pretty much right in the middle of those two,,,
and due to the republicans desire to have a bigger more controlling government than the constitution allows they are to the left of it and moving more everyday,,,

ever heard the phrase
"CAN MAN RULE HIMSELF"?

thats anarchy,,,and what the founders envisioned,,
 
the founding of this country is the bedrock of my point,,,and everything you need to know is in there that proves the political scale in this country is
far left is total government (pick your own form) the far right is absence of government anarchy is as good description as any,,,

first came the articles of confederation and when that didnt work they came back and created the constitution which sets pretty much right in the middle of those two,,,
and due to the republicans desire to have a bigger more controlling government than the constitution allows they are to the left of it and moving more everyday,,,

ever heard the phrase
"CAN MAN RULE HIMSELF"?

thats anarchy,,,and what the founders envisioned,,
No, the Founders never envisioned individual man ruling himself. The Articles of Confederation were not rules for anarchists; they were the first stab at government. Then they tried that for a few years, learned some shit, and came back and did it again with what they'd learn to form a new government.

The Constitution sits right in the middle of which two? Your sentence makes no sense; the only other thing was the Articles of Confederation... what's the other? Anarchy? The Constitution sits in the middle between the Articles of Confederation and Anarchy? Are you suggesting the Articles of Confederation were total authoritarianism and anarchy on the other side? That's senseless.

You totally missed how to respond to my point. The correct response was for you to ask me to prove it. I can't prove my statement because it's my opinion; my viewpoint. But you said you can prove my statement wrong. So prove it wrong and quit throwing up abstract constructs to accomplish a concrete task. All you had to do is disagree. You're welcome to your opinion.
 
the founding of this country is the bedrock of my point,,,and everything you need to know is in there that proves the political scale in this country is
far left is total government (pick your own form) the far right is absence of government anarchy is as good description as any,,,

first came the articles of confederation and when that didnt work they came back and created the constitution which sets pretty much right in the middle of those two,,,
and due to the republicans desire to have a bigger more controlling government than the constitution allows they are to the left of it and moving more everyday,,,

ever heard the phrase
"CAN MAN RULE HIMSELF"?

thats anarchy,,,and what the founders envisioned,,
No, the Founders never envisioned individual man ruling himself. The Articles of Confederation were not rules for anarchists; they were the first stab at government. Then they tried that for a few years, learned some shit, and came back and did it again with what they'd learn to form a new government.

The Constitution sits right in the middle of which two? Your sentence makes no sense; the only other thing was the Articles of Confederation... what's the other? Anarchy? The Constitution sits in the middle between the Articles of Confederation and Anarchy? Are you suggesting the Articles of Confederation were total authoritarianism and anarchy on the other side? That's senseless.

You totally missed how to respond to my point. The correct response was for you to ask me to prove it. I can't prove my statement because it's my opinion; my viewpoint. But you said you can prove my statement wrong. So prove it wrong and quit throwing up abstract constructs to accomplish a concrete task. All you had to do is disagree. You're welcome to your opinion.
we are talking about the scale as the founders worked it,,
total on the left side and absence on right,
the articles of confed are left of far right,,,and the constitution are farther left of that,,,

and both major parties are to the left of the constitution,,

you comment about A of Confed as an anarchist rule book is just dumb,,,theyre anarchist so they have no rules,,,
 
Not half as amazing as someone who claims that one country has more freedom than another on the basis of his own opinion, regardless of the fact that it's measured and refuted by those measurements. I'll tell you what. Find me one source that's based on actual research and can show it's sources that refutes the study. Just one. Until then. WHAT PARAMETERS ARE YOU USING TO SUPPORT YOUR ASSERTION THAT THE US IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD?
Come to think about what do you personally consider the parameters for freedom?

Guns and a constitution with a bill of rights. That means we can defend the Bill of Rights we have. We will always be free as long as we don't surrender our guns. The rest of the world is free because of the benevolence of their governments.
I can have a gun, I have to pass a background check and I can't just get any firearm but that's not very different from you. I fail to see how the Bill of rights gives you protections that the government can't take away nor do I see why owning a weapon would have any impact on it. Laws can and have been changed before. 17 times to be exact in the case of the Bill of rights. Many countries have the same rights codified in either their normal lawbooks or their constitutions. So if that's your parameter for measuring freedom quite a few countries have them. So what other parameters do you consider supportive of your assertion that the US is the best country in the world by an order of magnitude?
 
Yet another case of why I continue to challenge not just the leftists on this site. I understand you don't think you're a conservative but you're (sic) behavior is that of a leftist.

Your grammar is that of a Leftist. So is progressivehunter's, whose "your" ignorance parallels *you're's*.
 
Yet another case of why I continue to challenge not just the leftists on this site. I understand you don't think you're a conservative but you're (sic) behavior is that of a leftist.

Your grammar is that of a Leftist. So is progressivehunter's, whose "your" ignorance parallels *you're's*.
typical leftist tactic,,,

cant refute the message so you attack the messenger,,,
 
Well done, Sir.

Without saying a word, you have effectively shown this OP from England that the Colonists are just as well informed as when we kicked their pompous asses out about 250 years ago.

Get your teeth fixed, wanker. You Brits have the worst teeth on earth. Here's a clue:
1. YOU didn't kick ANYBODY'S ass 250 years ago.
2. I'm not a Colonist, and neither is anybody alive in the States today. HELLO!
3. We've learned quite a lot since our forefathers kicked your redcoat arses and sent your surviving forefathers packing back to Bad Teeth Land to tend sheep, grow potatoes and bow to the Queen.
 
we are talking about the scale as the founders worked it,,
total on the left side and absence on right,
the articles of confed are left of far right,,,and the constitution are farther left of that,,,

and both major parties are to the left of the constitution,,

you comment about A of Confed as an anarchist rule book is just dumb,,,theyre anarchist so they have no rules,,,

Total what on the left and absence of what on the right? Use full sentences, please. I can't follow you.

You're twisting the truth of what was said even though it is right here on the page for you and all to see.

I did not say the Articles of Confederation are an anarchist rule book. I said they were not an anarchist rulebook. I said it after you used them to imply that they were evidence that the Founders were trying to create anarchy.

The Articles of Confederation were not rules for anarchists; they were the first stab at government.

You said the Constitution sits in the middle between the two. If something sits in the middle between two things, there must be two other things in the picture... The only things you had mentioned were the Constitution and the Articles of Confederation. I was trying to make sense and asking questions about what you were trying to say.

Some say Socialism and Communism in the left and authoritarian on the right, they even say fascism on the right but they can't point to a single fascist government that was not socialist or communist. But if authoritarian is on the right then how are anarchy and authoritarianism be on the same extreme of the political spectrum?

Besides, you're still just arguing against my opinion. If you'd quit misstating what I said and saying you could prove me wrong when you can't, we could just agree that we have differing opinions.. I and I respect your opinion. It's not an idiotic opinion; it's just one with which I disagree. It's not your opinion that's generating all the traffic in the thread; it's your statement that mine is proven wrong by history and that you proved it when neither you nor history prove my opinion wrong.
 
I can have a gun, I have to pass a background check and I can't just get any firearm but that's not very different from you. I fail to see how the Bill of rights gives you protections that the government can't take away nor do I see why owning a weapon would have any impact on it. Laws can and have been changed before. 17 times to be exact in the case of the Bill of rights. Many countries have the same rights codified in either their normal lawbooks or their constitutions. So if that's your parameter for measuring freedom quite a few countries have them. So what other parameters do you consider supportive of your assertion that the US is the best country in the world by an order of magnitude?

You can have a gun? Seriously? Can you have this?

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Or this?

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Our Constitution has been changed 17 times in the last 229 years, post Bill-of-Rights. It's not easily done but it's done by a process. It's not just changing a law. Rights coded in laws passed by legislators or dictated by government are not rights; they're privileges. Our Bill of Rights grants no rights at all; it acknowledges and protects rights.

Tell me a protected right in any country that we do not have here in the US. I don't think you can. Oh, sure, you'll say the right to not be shot by a gun but that right exists everywhere but is guaranteed nowhere. In fact, it is less guaranteed in countries where civilians don't have guns and history proves it.

So, give me a right that any country has that we don't have.

I'll tell you one thing you won't be able to tell me is a country other than the United States where their rights are protected against government by the people, themselves.
 
Yet another case of why I continue to challenge not just the leftists on this site. I understand you don't think you're a conservative but you're (sic) behavior is that of a leftist.

Your grammar is that of a Leftist. So is progressivehunter's, whose "your" ignorance parallels *you're's*.

No, your grammar policing is leftist. You got me in one. My posts clearly demonstrate that I understand you, your, you're and there, their, and they're. That my fingers went out on their own for a post doesn't indicate anything but your attempted diversion demonstrates asshole.
 
You can have a gun? Seriously? Can you have this?

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Do soldiers on the battlefield attack with fifty automatic rifles each and thousands of rounds of ammunition carried on their backs? Obviously they do not. Why would that be? Because the most deadly threat is a man with ONE rifle, not a hundred, with a small amount of ammunition, not the thousands of rounds which seem to frighten you so much. Switzerland has a trained and retired military which keeps their automatic weapons and ammunition for them at their residences in case they are needed. The Swiss don't go around murdering people with their assault rifles, do they?
Neither do 99.99999% of Americans with such weapons. As I recall, most of the mass murderers in the U.S. have been Democrats. Facts such as these trigger Democrats and bring out their hatred, anger, and mendacity.
 

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