Do you consider this Justice? Is this who we are?

[Clipper]

I don't get pissed brother, I just laugh at how you must go through your days....Always wondering how many Trump voters you encounter per day, and how that bums you out....It's glorious.

Yes, I do encounter a few Trump voters & some of them regret voting for him. Who knew it would take such a short time for them to smarten up.

 

[protectionist]

DODGE! nice try at hiding your inability to do research,

Apparently you need assistance. Here you go:

Trump pardoned violent Jan. 6 rioters. Here are 5 of them​

Hundreds of rioters accused of violently assaulting police at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, were pardoned Monday by President Trump, despite remarks from his allies in recent weeks condemning those defendants.

More than 600 people who invaded the Capitol that day as lawmakers sought to certify the results of the 2020 election were charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding law enforcement — and nearly 200 of them did so using a deadly or dangerous weapon.

The names of the 5 mentioned in the article are in the article.

Do you know how to go to the link and read?

1. What is the point of doing that ?

DODGE! nice try at hiding your inability to do research,

Apparently you need assistance. Here you go:

Trump pardoned violent Jan. 6 rioters. Here are 5 of them​

Hundreds of rioters accused of violently assaulting police at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, were pardoned Monday by President Trump, despite remarks from his allies in recent weeks condemning those defendants.

More than 600 people who invaded the Capitol that day as lawmakers sought to certify the results of the 2020 election were charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding law enforcement — and nearly 200 of them did so using a deadly or dangerous weapon.

The names of the 5 mentioned in the article are in the article.

Do you know how to go to the link and read?

The illegitimatemacy of this flimsy fake news "article" reveals itself right in the beginning, when claiming JD Vance "walked back" a statement that people who committed violence on Jan 6, should obviously not be pardoned.

Then they claim the walkback was > that he & Trump care about people unjustly accused.

That's not a walkback one iota. Yes, those violent shouldn't be pardoned, AND Yes they care about the unjustly accused.

As for the 5 that this credibility-lacking article cites, well what if there WERE 5 violent rioters pardoned ?
5 out of hundreds is a tiny %. Does anyone demand 100% perfection ? If all those pardoned (except 5) were nonviolent, that's not a bad job.

Let he who is 100% perfect through all his life, cast the first stone.
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[Seymour Flops]

This guy's only conviction is tresspassing?

Who gets a conviction for tresspassing?

My guess is that he was caught burglarizing, but by some technicality they couldn't make the burglary stick OR they plea-bargained the burglary down to criminal tresspass. My other guess is that this was not the only crime he committed, but the only one that he was caught and was pushed by the prosecutor, probably because he had been let off before.

Of course the other equal possibility is that he made that whole thing up and is hoping that some Democrat will make him a hero and try to bring him back.

If he ever comes back, any Democrat who helped him should be required to give him a room in his own house.

 

[Luckyone]

1. What is the point of doing that ?

The illegitimatemacy of this flimsy fake news "article" reveals itself right in the beginning, when claiming JD Vance "walked back" a statement that people who committed violence on Jan 6, should obviously not be pardoned.

Then they claim the walkback was > that he & Trump care about people unjustly accused.

That's not a walkback one iota. Yes, those violent shouldn't be pardoned, AND Yes they care about the unjustly accused.

As for the 5 that this credibility-lacking article cites, well what if there WERE 5 violent rioters pardoned ?
5 out of hundreds is a tiny %. Does anyone demand 100% perfection ? If all those pardoned (except 5) were nonviolent, that's not a bad job.

Let he who is 100% perfect through all his life, cast the first stone.
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Evidently you did not read the article. It stated 5 (as an example) but there were over 230 that were found guilty of violent acts on Jan 6th and then pardoned and another 400 that were jailed for carrying weapons into the capitol, which is a criminal act.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Evidently you did not read the article. It stated 5 (as an example) but there were over 230 that were found guilty of violent acts on Jan 6th and then pardoned and another 400 that were jailed for carrying weapons into the capitol, which is a criminal act.

They should have yelled, "George Floyd!", they'd have been left alone.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Sigh,

You want to hear the reality of life? Those people that are rapists, gangs, murderers and more likely to continue coming here no matter what Trump does as those have the money, the contacts, and the higher ability to pay to come here. It is the poor and the families that will not have the inability to overcome the obstacles that Trump will place.

This hardly makes the case that we shouldn't deport illegal immigrants. You sound as if you're saying we should do nothing because the problem will never go away.

On top of that, statistics show clearly that there is more gangs, more raping, and more murdering done (per thousand) by Americans than by illegals.

You do know that raping, murdering, drugs, gangs, etc., are traits found in humans in general (not only in illegal aliens), meaning that per thousand, that scenario will not change.

It's not a goddam numbers game for Christ's sake. This is not about who is committing more of the crime, it's about importing more criminals to add to the shitbags we already have.

If the border had been monitored more closely, if the government was more proactive about deportations and imposed a more stringent vetting process, Laken Riley just might still be alive today.

 

[Seymour Flops]

 

[Luckyone]

This hardly makes the case that we shouldn't deport illegal immigrants. You sound as if you're saying we should do nothing because the problem will never go away.

It's not a goddam numbers game for Christ's sake. This is not about who is committing more of the crime, it's about importing more criminals to add to the shitbags we already have.

If the border had been monitored more closely, if the government was more proactive about deportations and imposed a more stringent vetting process, Laken Riley just might still be alive today.

Look, let me give you some basics so you will understand what I am saying

1) Illegal immigration is worldwide and as long as the overpopulation in the world continues to grow and as long as there are bad nations to live in, it will continue. None of the above is going to be resolved without a worldwide catastrophe occurring

2) there is very little that any country that has something good to offer can do to stop immigrants coming

3) if a country loses its moral compass and humanity, worse problems will occur

All of the above are facts and reality. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean you give up. Some positive changes can be made to limit and control immigration. For that to occur, all parties and all citizens have to be in accord because as long as there is infighting, things will not work. For that to happen, everyone needs to understand the problem and agree to work together by compromising.

The problem itself will get better even if immigrants come, as long as there is a legal way to do it and allows people to come with the idea of doing it legally (everyone wants that, even the immigrants themselves). By doing that, it also works to getting rid of the bad and illegal criminal immigrants as they would not qualify to become legalized and also it would mean that the border patrol could be more successful as they would have less people to go after.

The immigrants that are accepted legally would also contribute more as they would be paying taxes, they would be contributing as all Americans do.

Yes, we would suffer some as they would be generating costs and would be taking some jobs away but the situation that exists worldwide is not going to go away, so the idea is to work it so the losses are not as great and the benefits are a bit higher, but nonetheless, not a perfect or even all that acceptable but it is better than the road we are presently on

 

[Contumacious]

All of the above are facts and reality.

Schizophrenics tend to believe that the voices in their heads are providing them FACTS.

No explanation was provided for forcing American Taxpayers to deal with "overpopulation".

 

[protectionist]

Evidently you did not read the article. It stated 5 (as an example) but there were over 230 that were found guilty of violent acts on Jan 6th and then pardoned and another 400 that were jailed for carrying weapons into the capitol, which is a criminal act.

The kangaroo "trials" were a joke
NO, 230 were NOT "found" guilty. Many if not most were LABELED that, while never even setting foot in the Capitol.

Whole thing was a political theater farce, designed by issueless Democrats, to give them something to crow about.

Americans didn't get suckered, and they showed it in November. Dumbest political stunt job ever, and to still be trying make something from it now, well into 2025, is beyond pathetic.

 

[Luckyone]

The kangaroo "trials" were a joke
NO, 230 were NOT "found" guilty. Many if not most were LABELED that, while never even setting foot in the Capitol.

Whole thing was a political theater farce, designed by issueless Democrats, to give them something to crow about.

Americans didn't get suckered, and they showed it in November. Dumbest political stunt job ever, and to still be trying make something from it now, well into 2025, is beyond pathetic.

Ultimately, about one-third of the 1500 defendants were charged with assault on or interference with law enforcement officers

By the way, I am tired of people saying it was a farce. I saw the whole thing happen and NONE OF IT was a farce. These people invaded the Capitol, tried to overturn the president-elect and used violence. It was there for everyone to see.

 

[Contumacious]

Ultimately, about one-third of the 1500 defendants were charged with assault on or interference with law enforcement officers

By the way, I am tired of people saying it was a farce. I saw the whole thing happen and NONE OF IT was a farce. These people invaded the Capitol, tried to overturn the president-elect and used violence. It was there for everyone to see.

This is what happens when a schizophrenic hears the cackling queen in his head repeteadly telling him that J6 was

The Worst Attack’ on Democracy Since Civil War.​

 

[Crepitus]

Here in this video is a Guatemalan man that was deported this week. This man was here in the U.S. illegally but he has been here for 19 years and he is married and has 2 children, one of which is 4 months old.



Imagine the consequences that his family is now going to suffer.

Is this Justice? Is this who we are now?

Who we are?

No.

Who "they" are?

Fuck yeah.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Look, let me give you some basics so you will understand what I am saying

1) Illegal immigration is worldwide and as long as the overpopulation in the world continues to grow and as long as there are bad nations to live in, it will continue. None of the above is going to be resolved without a worldwide catastrophe occurring

2) there is very little that any country that has something good to offer can do to stop immigrants coming

3) if a country loses its moral compass and humanity, worse problems will occur

All of the above are facts and reality. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean you give up. Some positive changes can be made to limit and control immigration. For that to occur, all parties and all citizens have to be in accord because as long as there is infighting, things will not work. For that to happen, everyone needs to understand the problem and agree to work together by compromising.

The problem itself will get better even if immigrants come, as long as there is a legal way to do it and allows people to come with the idea of doing it legally (everyone wants that, even the immigrants themselves). By doing that, it also works to getting rid of the bad and illegal criminal immigrants as they would not qualify to become legalized and also it would mean that the border patrol could be more successful as they would have less people to go after.

The immigrants that are accepted legally would also contribute more as they would be paying taxes, they would be contributing as all Americans do.

Yes, we would suffer some as they would be generating costs and would be taking some jobs away but the situation that exists worldwide is not going to go away, so the idea is to work it so the losses are not as great and the benefits are a bit higher, but nonetheless, not a perfect or even all that acceptable but it is better than the road we are presently on

2) there is very little that any country that has something good to offer can do to stop immigrants coming

How about if we stop offering it and ship them home after they get here?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ultimately, about one-third of the 1500 defendants were charged with assault on or interference with law enforcement officers

By the way, I am tired of people saying it was a farce. I saw the whole thing happen and NONE OF IT was a farce. These people invaded the Capitol, tried to overturn the president-elect and used violence. It was there for everyone to see.

And I'm sure that was even true for a few of them. Sorry, you libtards overplayed your hand.

A year of excusing actual violence, arson, looting and killing and we were supposed to
be upset about a few people causing a ruckus on Jan 6th. And then the actual videos were
released and the scam we suspected was proven.

You should whine some more and say "Russia, Russia, Russia" a few more times.
I'm sure it will work this time.

DURR

 

[scruffy]

You are entitled to your opinion but not to your own facts.

Go to hell.

You don't get too determine who's entitled to what.

 

[scruffy]

Hunger and starvation is a form of death.

See post #58 for details of what these people are going through and then answer this question "if you were living under the same conditions, what would you do?"

Go ask the 4 million white men who can't find a job because of DEI.

DEMOCRATS ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES ON THE PLANET !!!

 

[j-mac]

Look, let me give you some basics so you will understand what I am saying

1) Illegal immigration is worldwide and as long as the overpopulation in the world continues to grow and as long as there are bad nations to live in, it will continue. None of the above is going to be resolved without a worldwide catastrophe occurring

2) there is very little that any country that has something good to offer can do to stop immigrants coming

3) if a country loses its moral compass and humanity, worse problems will occur

All of the above are facts and reality. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean you give up. Some positive changes can be made to limit and control immigration. For that to occur, all parties and all citizens have to be in accord because as long as there is infighting, things will not work. For that to happen, everyone needs to understand the problem and agree to work together by compromising.

The problem itself will get better even if immigrants come, as long as there is a legal way to do it and allows people to come with the idea of doing it legally (everyone wants that, even the immigrants themselves). By doing that, it also works to getting rid of the bad and illegal criminal immigrants as they would not qualify to become legalized and also it would mean that the border patrol could be more successful as they would have less people to go after.

The immigrants that are accepted legally would also contribute more as they would be paying taxes, they would be contributing as all Americans do.

Yes, we would suffer some as they would be generating costs and would be taking some jobs away but the situation that exists worldwide is not going to go away, so the idea is to work it so the losses are not as great and the benefits are a bit higher, but nonetheless, not a perfect or even all that acceptable but it is better than the road we are presently on

Open borders plea.

 

[j-mac]

Ultimately, about one-third of the 1500 defendants were charged with assault on or interference with law enforcement officers

By the way, I am tired of people saying it was a farce. I saw the whole thing happen and NONE OF IT was a farce. These people invaded the Capitol, tried to overturn the president-elect and used violence. It was there for everyone to see.

Just like “the summer of love” out west. Except less violent.

 

[protectionist]

Ultimately, about one-third of the 1500 defendants were charged with assault on or interference with law enforcement officers

By the way, I am tired of people saying it was a farce. I saw the whole thing happen and NONE OF IT was a farce. These people invaded the Capitol, tried to overturn the president-elect and used violence. It was there for everyone to see.

You can be as tired as you like, but ALL of the Jan 6 political theater set-up was a scam, with dozens of Biden FBI & Capitol Police in full participation, arresting people on false charges, and then illegally imprisoning them for far longer wtihout trial, than the law allows (maximum 70 days).

Trump has a ton of things on his plate to deal with right now, after 4 years of Joe Biden using the presidency to make money, and simultaneously letting the country fall apart. After the deportations, astronomical prices, er al issues are brought back to normal, I think the Trump administration is going to go after a lot of Biden bad guys, starting with all those behind the J6 FARCE, Merrit Garland, Joke Biden, and all his string pullers. Keep watching.