Zone1 Do you claim to be an "Atheist?"

[DennisPTate]

If you are an Atheist....
or if you know people who claim to be "Atheists" then you and they should have no problem to rise to the occasion and
mimic something that I did myself back in 1990, [not long after the fast of Yom Kippur].

"I began a tradition of sorts back in 1990 that many of your Atheist or Agnostic friends may find interesting......

I literally raised my right hand in the air....
I partly quoted and partly paraphrased Isaiah chapter forty five.....

I asked Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to take me by the right hand and show me my errors... and sins...... and flaws in my reasoning.... so that I would NOT deceive people as I felt that I personally had been partly deceived on some pretty big and important questions.

If somebody lacks the courage to literally raise their right hands in the air and "pray" to be led by the right hand as ancient King Cyrus was......

then that person cannot really claim to be an "Atheist".... they are at minimum an "Agnostic" with at least a little bit of fear over what it might be like if Messiah Yeshua - Jesus were to begin to intervene in their lives and mentor and guide them?"

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Today at 1:25 PM

I began a tradition of sorts back in 1990 that many of your Atheist or Agnostic friends may find interesting......

I literally raised my right hand in the air....
I partly quoted and partly paraphrased Isaiah chapter forty five.....

I asked Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to take me by the right hand and show me my errors... and sins...... and flaws in my reasoning.... so that I would NOT deceive people as I felt that I personally had been partly deceived on some pretty big and important questions.

If somebody lacks the courage to literally raise their right hands in the air and "pray" to be...

• DennisPTate

Cyrus, God’s Instrument
1“Thus says the Lord to His anointed,
To Cyrus, whose right hand I have held—
To subdue nations before him
And loose the armor of kings,
To open before him the double doors,
So that the gates will not be shut:
2‘I will go before you
And make the crooked places straight;
I will break in pieces the gates of bronze
And cut the bars of iron.
3I will give you the treasures of darkness
And hidden riches of secret places,
That you may know that I, the Lord,
Who call you by your name,
Am the God of Israel.
4For Jacob My servant’s sake,
And Israel My elect,
I have even called you by your name;
I have named you, though you have not known Me.
5I am the Lord, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me.
I will gird you, though you have not known Me,
6That they may know from the rising of the sun to its setting
That there is none besides Me.
I am the Lord, and there is no other;
7I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, the Lord, do all these things.’

Isaiah 45 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

Cyrus, God’s Instrument“Thus says the Lord to His anointed,To #Is. 44:28Cyrus, whose #Ps. 73:23; Is. 41:13right hand I have held—#Dan. 5:30To subdue nations before himAnd #Job 12:21;

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[luiza]

No God
Obviously.

But Universe and I communicate frequently .
Took me some time before I really believed 100% .
But you must keep fresh, unselfish and honest or there will be a price to pay .

 

[DennisPTate]

No God
Obviously.

But Universe and I communicate frequently .
Took me some time before I really believed 100% .
But you must keep fresh, unselfish and honest or there will be a price to pay .

But how could YHWH make Adam and Eve in "their image" if YHWH the Father and YHWH The Mother, [Wisdom], had not visualized taking on a specific form?

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
29And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. 30Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food”; and it was so. 31Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Genesis 1 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

The History of CreationIn the #Ps. 102:25; Is. 40:21; (John 1:1–3; Heb. 1:10)beginning #Gen. 2:4; (Ps. 8:3; 89:11; 90:2); Is. 44:24; Acts 17:24; Rom. 1:20; (Heb. 1:2; 11:3); Rev. 4:11God created

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After engineering and planning and setting in motion an infinite number of "universes" over INFINITE TIME in the past, could not the Creators decide on a generally "Humanoid" Image that seems to have caused former Covering Cherub Helel some serious "Pinnochio" issues?

Luiza, I strongly suspect that former Covering Cherub Helel is jealous of you and I and all eight billion of us.....
because of who we remind him of?

[Mellen Benedict]:

6. The Void​

At this point of my NDE, I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity. I was in the Void.

I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time / the First Word / the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply, I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness. When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That’s a mind-expanding thought, isn’t it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event that created the Universe. I saw during my life after death experience that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by super computers using fractal geometry equations.

The ancients knew of this. They said God had periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and recreated other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and recreating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

It took me years after I returned from my NDE to assimilate any words at all for the Void experience. I can tell you this now: the Void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The Void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is Absolute Consciousness; much more than even Universal Intelligence. The Void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components. Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it Zero point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately. There is more of the zero space in your own body and the Universe than anything else!

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and perhaps more importantly?

[Christian Andreason] :

14. What is ego?​

Ego is that thing that helps us learn what LOVE is by showing us what it is not. All things on Earth must come to a place of balance. All things must have a parallel. This is how we are each caused to grow spiritually. Just as a face (due to gravity) may wrinkle with time, so does a soul become weighed down with ego. Ego is always LOVE’S opposite. Love raises vibration and ego lowers it. Ego is a mental essence that each of us is made to endure for as long as we walk the planet. Ego is that thing that tells us in our mind, “No you can’t do that … because you’re not talented, thin, good-looking, wealthy, intelligent, young, strong, interesting or intuitive ENOUGH!” This is the voice of the liar. The liar is the voice of ego. Let me put it this way: wherever there is separation, condemnation, self-doubt, lack-mentality, bitterness, hostility or segregation … you can best be sure ego is not far behind.

Ego wants to keep you earthbound and heavenless for as long as it can. It is an essence that has been sent here to learn just as you have. However, it has a duty to challenge each of us and cause us to learn as it learns for itself. There is nothing to fear about the ego. It is just a fragile, spoiled child that screams and rants until it gets what it wants. And like any child, if you ignore it during its temper flare long enough, sooner or later it will get the message that those kinds of methods are not productive and will not yield positive results.

If you understand the ego, you will understand the concept of the devil. Satanic frequency is the LOW-RANGE frequency that surrounds us in our collective thinking. It is the opposite of the HIGH, INCOMPREHENSIBLE LOVING frequency of God. Please hear me out on something…be careful of the music you listen to, the movies or TV you watch, the gossip or negative speaking you participate in. All these things LOWER the soul’s vibration. Lower vibration brings depression, disillusionment, disease and despair. The lower our soul’s vibration falls, the more these dark things come upon us. Once you fall into LOWER vibration, immediately seek to amend it with LOVING, HIGHER VIBRATIONAL THOUGHT. It is like anything else, the more you put into something, that is what the end result will be.

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[flack]

I am a Deist.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

I asked Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to take me by the right hand and show me my errors... and sins...... and flaws in my reasoning.... so that I would NOT deceive people as I felt that I personally had been partly deceived on some pretty big and important questions.

Well, you should be really smart. Any word from the Almighty as to how we fix the social problems we endure?

 

[alang1216]

If you are an Atheist....
or if you know people who claim to be "Atheists" then you and they should have no problem to rise to the occasion and
mimic something that I did myself back in 1990, [not long after the fast of Yom Kippur].

"I began a tradition of sorts back in 1990 that many of your Atheist or Agnostic friends may find interesting......

I literally raised my right hand in the air....
I partly quoted and partly paraphrased Isaiah chapter forty five.....

I asked Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to take me by the right hand and show me my errors... and sins...... and flaws in my reasoning.... so that I would NOT deceive people as I felt that I personally had been partly deceived on some pretty big and important questions.

If somebody lacks the courage to literally raise their right hands in the air and "pray" to be led by the right hand as ancient King Cyrus was......

then that person cannot really claim to be an "Atheist".... they are at minimum an "Agnostic" with at least a little bit of fear over what it might be like if Messiah Yeshua - Jesus were to begin to intervene in their lives and mentor and guide them?"

Zone1 Post in thread 'Does Rabbi Alon Anava also have a "Cyrus" calling on his life?'

Today at 1:25 PM

I began a tradition of sorts back in 1990 that many of your Atheist or Agnostic friends may find interesting......

I literally raised my right hand in the air....
I partly quoted and partly paraphrased Isaiah chapter forty five.....

I asked Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to take me by the right hand and show me my errors... and sins...... and flaws in my reasoning.... so that I would NOT deceive people as I felt that I personally had been partly deceived on some pretty big and important questions.

If somebody lacks the courage to literally raise their right hands in the air and "pray" to be...

• DennisPTate

I'm an atheist but have no interest in being hypocritical and insincere, so I won't be raising my hand.

Just wondering, what have you done that goes against your beliefs. Have you prayed to Allah or Vishnu?

 

[JoeB131]

I'm a Pastafarian.

May the Flying Spaghetti Monster have mercy on your soul.

 

[DennisPTate]

Well, you should be really smart. Any word from the Almighty as to how we fix the social problems we endure?

The "Neo-Malthusian" elite billionaires seem to be sincerely convinced that they need to depopulate eighty to ninety percent of our children, grandchildren or great grandchildren, so, if we Throw Money at them, [our children and grandchildren and great grandchildren], in such a way that their PRODUCTIVITY is increased in a way that is win, win, win, win for ninety nine percent of us, THEN.....
[the productivity of our grandchildren that is],
then..... it will be more difficult for the Elite Billionaires to depopulate our grandchildren if they are wealthier....
and wiser.....
and healthier....
and have a better understanding of The Being of Light of near death experience fame has sent all of us down here into four dimensional space and time on a MISSION.

www.JohnJDavisnde.com/

"And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)

Ecclesiastes 10:19
"A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. "


and......

City in Austria Printed Local Currency

Worgl, like many other European towns and cities, was hit hard by the Great Depression. There was mass unemployment; four of the five local factories had closed, and the people were starving in the streets. Nobody had any money to buy anything. One of the features of an economic depression is that there is not enough money in circulation to ensure that people can meet their basic needs, and in the 1930s, the shortage of currency in many countries of the world became catastrophic.

The mayor of Worgl, together with local businessmen, decided to try to break this economic impasse by creating their own local currency. They printed and issued 60,000 Austrian shillings worth of local currency. These shillings could only be spent in Worgl, so they remained in the local community and were exchanged over and over again.

The positive impact was immediate and surprising to everyone. In only six weeks, unemployment disappeared, all the factories had reopened and everyone had food. For the inhabitants of Worgl, the economic depression was gone. This dramatic transformation became known as the “miracle of Worgl.” Surrounding towns, inspired by the success of Worgl, immediately started printing their own local currencies.

Sadly, the miracle did not last long. When the Austrian Central Bank heard about Worgl’s local currency, they initiated legal proceedings against the mayor and local businessmen. According to Austrian banking law, it was illegal for anyone except the Austrian Central Bank to issue money. The bank won the court case, and the mayor was ordered to shut down the local currency, which he did, under threat of imprisonment. The town then returned to the devastating economic depression of the 1930s, with all the human pain and suffering associated with this catastrophe. Factories closed, and once again, the people starved.

Alternative Currency in the U.S.

Irving Fisher, an American professor of economics at Yale University, visited Worgl before the local currency was suppressed and witnessed the ‘miracle’ firsthand. When he returned to the United States, Fisher spread the word by traveling and lecturing across the country, advocating the use of the Worgl ‘scrip’ everywhere. Inspired by his vision, hundreds of communities began issuing their own currency, and by 1934 there were over 1,000 local communities using ‘scrip’ throughout the U.S.

Every one of these communities experienced a tremendous rejuvenation of their local economies. They thrived while others suffered. Fisher then met with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, proposing the implementation of government-sanctioned local ‘scrip’ in every community in America. When FDR consulted with his top financial advisors and bankers, however, he was advised to shut all the ‘scrip’ systems down, which he did. Instead, he borrowed large amounts of money from bankers, at interest, and used it to pay for the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and the other work-creation projects, which collectively came to be known as the ‘New Deal.’ So ended the last widespread use of a local currency within the U.S.

This pattern of economic collapse and re-emergence of local currencies has occurred thousands of times in many parts of the world. When these currencies have failed or have been suppressed, banks have not always been to blame. Sometimes, local currencies fail because they have been badly designed or implemented. Sometimes, people lose interest in them when the mainstream economy recovers. But they have always returned in one form or another during times of economic failure.

Our present world situation is uniquely different. Despite a relatively prosperous and stable world economy, a quiet monetary revolution has been occurring around the globe over the last 20 years. Awareness is growing about the flaws in our current monetary system, and people are re-creating viable alternatives. We are witnessing for the first time the worldwide creation of money systems designed by the people who use them, instead of by central banks." ( by Francis and Lia Ayley
The Truth About Money: The Money SystemIsnt There a Better Way?)

Basically we need to Reverse Engineer something like....

Banking on Bitcoin.... [ or Blockchain]?

Banking on Bitcoin (2016) Full Documentary​

BUT THE WHOLE THING needs to be guided by the Ruach ha Kodesh... the Holy Spirit......
not by human Ego and pride and selfishness, [which is challenging to say the least].

Zone1 Thread 'Reverse Engineering of a Real Estate Boom and Paying off the USA national debt?'

Mar 16, 2026

For about fifty of my sixty six years I have been rather obsessively studying Theology, Spirituality and especially near death experience accounts.

I believe that the gifted Pastor David Wilkerson in 1973 was given a prediction for the future of the USA that theoretically can be Reverse Engineered?

[Pastor David Wilkerson] :

"There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country.

Thousands will attempt to flee from cities, hoping that a return to the land and
nature will provide security. There will be a growing urge to "get away from it
all"---and much money...

• DennisPTate
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• Forum: Clean Debate Zone

 

[DennisPTate]

I'm an atheist but have no interest in being hypocritical and insincere, so I won't be raising my hand.

Just wondering, what have you done that goes against your beliefs. Have you prayed to Allah or Vishnu?

From 1990 to 2000 I argued and argued and argued with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus on basically one theme.......

To state that I was kind of shock but pleasantly surprised to find out that the Creator was far, far, far, far, far ahead of me was a fantastic relief to say the least?!

h. Who goes to heaven?​

In the end … believe it or not (sigh of relief), everyone gets to come home! Heaven is a place of ultimate LOVE. When we have learned how to become individuals that base our entire existence and consciousness around manifesting LOVE, we then become capable of entering the domain of the higher realms of heaven. If we do not practice love, we can only go so far and we will be made to incarnate somewhere out there in God’s super universe again and again (unlimited times) until we learn.

Lots of things! Individuals are laughing, relaxing and enjoying one another’s company. Some are off working together in pairs (or larger), so that they might bring a new concept or idea, or accomplish a divinely intended goal for the planet. Some are off to themselves reflecting in far away, peaceful places and learning how to work with and trust the power they hold within them. Others form close-knit groups and enjoy learning together as they are taught by various loving, advanced teachers and guides of spirit. The Realm is a real happening place I can tell you that! I always laugh when I think of society’s image of heaven as little cherubs sitting around playing harps on clouds. Ahhhh … it’s a whole lot more intense than that!

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[ding]

No God
Obviously.

But Universe and I communicate frequently .
Took me some time before I really believed 100% .
But you must keep fresh, unselfish and honest or there will be a price to pay .

And you don't believe you have religion.

 

[ding]

have no interest in being hypocritical and insincere

That's rich.

 

[DennisPTate]

I'm an atheist but have no interest in being hypocritical and insincere, so I won't be raising my hand.

Just wondering, what have you done that goes against your beliefs. Have you prayed to Allah or Vishnu?

If you are really an "Atheist" then you would sincerely believe that NOTHING would happen if you did that anyway?

So if you are really an "Atheist" you might want to do a random sample of one..... yourself..... and comment on your taking on this challenge had had zero results in your life or in your thinking or in your motivations?

 

[rightwinger]

"I began a tradition of sorts back in 1990 that many of your Atheist or Agnostic friends may find interesting......

I literally raised my right hand in the air....
I partly quoted and partly paraphrased Isaiah chapter forty five.....

I asked Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to take me by the right hand and show me my errors... and sins...... and flaws in my reasoning.... so that I would NOT deceive people as I felt that I personally had been partly deceived on some pretty big and important question

Sorry, Atheists don’t engage in silly fantasies

 

[DennisPTate]

Sorry, Atheists don’t engage in silly fantasies

So why did they make Atheism into something like the Spanish Inquisition and murder millions and millions and millions of people who disagreed with them in Russia, China and all Communist nations?