Do You Believe In Civil Rights?

[The Sage of Main Street]

Civil rights means having political/social freedom and equality. If certain groups are given protected class status, that's not social equality. That puts certain groups higher than others.

According to you, which group/s have been given "protected class" status?

Protected classes are based on race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, family status, pregnancy, disability.

The first two came about as a result of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. We both know that things like affirmative action came out of that and affirmative action related to race damn sure doesn't benefit white people because they're white.

Believe what you want but blacks, based on discriminatory programs like AA, have their race used to benefit them in getting jobs. So much for what MLK said about content of character. Maybe those supporting AA had to do so when they realized the level of character (i.e. - qualifications, education, work ethic, etc.) of blacks would never be that of whites.

This reminds me of when I took and passed the postal exam for anew electronics tech position. I don't know how scores are calculated now but back then additional points were added based on race, disabilities etc. So it was possible for some to score above 100%. Especially if you were a disabled non white vet.

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Do you believe that vets should be rewarded those extra points?

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Even as a veteran myself? No.

I do think vets deserve some special considerations but I don't agree with doing that through a point system.



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As a veteran myself, I think the students' GI Bill is as misplaced as guaranteeing a vet a spot on the college football team. The only thing the colleges do right is something they shouldn't be doing at all: sports. There are also no racial quotas in sports; I'm sure Auburn "discriminates" against Asian football players.

 

[dblack]

You still haven't defined what you mean by the term "civil rights".

What the OP means by "civil rights" is the subset of inalienable rights protected by government.

 

[Contumacious]

You still haven't defined what you mean by the term "civil rights".

What the OP means by "civil rights" is the subset of inalienable rights protected by government.

Actually , SCOTUS has ruled that government benefits are ALIENABLE , subject to legislative discretion


"Many people believe that Social Security is an “earned right.” That is, they think that because they have paid Social Security taxes, they are entitled to receive Social Security benefits. The government encourages that belief by referring to Social Security taxes as “contributions,” as in the Federal Insurance Contribution Act. However, in the 1960 case of Fleming v. Nestor, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that workers have no legally binding contractual rights to their Social Security benefits, and that those benefits can be cut or even eliminated at any time."

 

[Conservative65]

According to you, which group/s have been given "protected class" status?

Protected classes are based on race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, family status, pregnancy, disability.

The first two came about as a result of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. We both know that things like affirmative action came out of that and affirmative action related to race damn sure doesn't benefit white people because they're white.

Believe what you want but blacks, based on discriminatory programs like AA, have their race used to benefit them in getting jobs. So much for what MLK said about content of character. Maybe those supporting AA had to do so when they realized the level of character (i.e. - qualifications, education, work ethic, etc.) of blacks would never be that of whites.

This reminds me of when I took and passed the postal exam for anew electronics tech position. I don't know how scores are calculated now but back then additional points were added based on race, disabilities etc. So it was possible for some to score above 100%. Especially if you were a disabled non white vet.

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Do you believe that vets should be rewarded those extra points?

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Even as a veteran myself? No.

I do think vets deserve some special considerations but I don't agree with doing that through a point system.



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Also Eliminate the Student Draft "Deferment"

As a veteran myself, I think the students' GI Bill is as misplaced as guaranteeing a vet a spot on the college football team. The only thing the colleges do right is something they shouldn't be doing at all: sports. There are also no racial quotas in sports; I'm sure Auburn "discriminates" against Asian football players.

While there may not be quotas in sports, the NFL has the Rooney Rule which requires all NFL teams to interview minorities when a head coaching or senior operations position comes open.

I had a very interesting conversation several years ago with someone that supported such a nonsense rule. That person said that there should be more black head coaches in the NFL and the rule would go a long way in doing what needed to be done. In other words, he wanted a black to get the position because he was black. I made a suggestion that the head coaching positions be hired at a percentage equal to how each race was represented in society. There are 32 teams. That means 21 or just shy of 70% would be white, 4 would be black, 4 would be hispanic, and the other 3 would be Asian, Native American, etc. As part of that suggestion, I said that the rosters of each team would have to be divided the same way. That's when he disagreed and stated "teams should have the best players not rosters divided by race". That was the end of the discussion as that hypocrite proved his true feelings.

 

[MarcATL]

BUMP!!!

 

[danielpalos]

Do you believe that civil rights needs more attention, or it already have had enough and it's time to move on?

Why/why not?

we need to improve the efficiency of our economy. the right wing doesn't like it, Because the Poor may benefit.

 

[bendog]

civil rights yes move on .....no

I like the dog. If you got banned that's another point in your favor. (-:

 

[2aguy]

Do you believe that civil rights needs more attention, or it already have had enough and it's time to move on?

Why/why not?

We need more Civil Rights, in Particular, freedom of religion and the Right to bear arms......also, the internet left wingers need to learn that they can either be platforms like the phone company, or publishers, but not both....

 

[anynameyouwish]

Do you believe that civil rights needs more attention, or it already have had enough and it's time to move on?

Why/why not?

as long as conservatives infest the country we will ALWAYS be fighting for civil rights.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Because it is time to take away special rights given to classes of people just because of their color, to be productive, and to be REALLY JUST all people should be graded, and measured by the same standards and given just what they have earned, no special programs, no special extra points, and no preference to meet any quota. Equality in all factors is what the CONSTITUTION REQUIRES. No equality of outcome without equality of input. No equality of assets by redistribution. No equality of anything by government intervention. That is real civil rights. Our fight is for REAL rights NOT implied rights for chosen classes.

would you hire a black?
a gay?
a muslim?
an atheist?
a liberal?

BTW I agree with your position. I'm not sure YOU really do.

 

[sparky]

Why/why not?

I believe every individual has a personal responsibility to be civil , which collectively creates civilization

you see, the concept of civil rights is all fine & well, yet applying it via government bureaucracy makes as much sense as an azzhole w/taste buds....

~S~

 

[blackhawk]

I believe in civil rights I do not however believe everything we want that we don't have should be considered a civil right.

 

[2aguy]

Do you believe that civil rights needs more attention, or it already have had enough and it's time to move on?

Why/why not?

as long as conservatives infest the country we will ALWAYS be fighting for civil rights.

The conservatives gave us Civil Rights...it was democrats who fought against all but the last two......and they only did that because kkk member Lyndon Johnson knew they couldn't win elections without the Black vote...

 

[Geaux4it]

Do you believe that civil rights needs more attention, or it already have had enough and it's time to move on?

Why/why not?

as long as conservatives infest the country we will ALWAYS be fighting for civil rights.

Who is this 'we' you speak of?

-Geaux

 

[playtime]

Do you believe that civil rights needs more attention, or it already have had enough and it's time to move on?

Why/why not?

equal protection under the law is the law, but the 14th amendment is slowly & methodically being eroded... the voting rights act, banning transgendered from joining the military, to the most recent - allowing the violence against women's act to die. if it's not fought to remain, then it will die too.

 

[sparky]

The conservatives gave us Civil Rights

guess you missed the 60's then

~S~

 

[Issa]

Do you believe that civil rights needs more attention, or it already have had enough and it's time to move on?

Why/why not?

In some parts of the US. Yes....mainly deep red areas.

 

[pismoe]

I think that 'civil rights' are simply Grants , Favors and Permissions ready to be revoked by 'goverment' at any time

 

[playtime]

I think that 'civil rights' are simply Grants , Favors and Permissions ready to be revoked by 'goverment' at any time

actually the constitution is why there are civil rights.

 

[Timmy]

Favored classes are unconstitutional. Enforce equality under the law, not favoritism under the law.

There is no favoritism. Everyone is protected by the law cause we all fall into those groups .