Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

[Jantje_Smit]

Maybe if Hillary spent more time with the voters,
and less money running negative ads, things would be different...

And maybe if Hillary had spent less time writing incriminating emails, playing with illegal servers, giving private speeches to her wall street buddies, solliciting bribes for the Clinton Foundation slush fund....

 

[JoeB131]

My answer is no

-Geaux

My answer is yes, but that's not the point.

Watergate didn't change the outcome of the 1972 election, that was a route for the Democrats, but Nixon still had to resign once his role in the coverup became clear.

Trump is now actively engaging in the coverup.

 

[easyt65]

so dude, how did russia affect the election? let me ask that way.

They do have reading comprehension classes for adults.

Go back to page 36 post # 360 and try again. It's very clear that Vladimir Putin knows more about the demographics of American politics better than most Americans do.

I am certain that most Americans saw these Russian adds on FACEBOOK, that were then shared with millions of others.

It was specifically designed for white conservative voters in swing states, while at the same time Putin was active in getting Sanders supporters outraged at Hillary Clinton via the Russian hack & leak of Debbie Wasserman's email.

It was really brilliant on Vladimir Putin's behalf, via the internet agency from St. Petersburg, Russia.

When was being on facebook illegal?

Go get your crayons and coloring books, turn on your FOX NEWS and enjoy the storm that's coming.
Blue wave coming this November 2018

James Clapper is on record for stating that had it not been for Vladimir Putin, Trump would not be POTUS today.


This link on this thread explains how Vladimir Putin won the election.
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

This link on this thread explains why Trump gave classified information to the Russians in the Oval office
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

Here is the Russian collusion, also on this thread.
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election.

...and still no Russian connection

Really? This article was confirmed by James Clapper under oath over a year ago.

[GCHQ--first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added. Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.

British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia

For confirmation that the above article is true:

FEINSTEIN: The Guardian has reported that Britain's intelligence service first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious interactions between Trump advisers and Russian intelligence agents. This information was passed on to U.S. intelligence agencies. Over the spring of 2016, multiple European allies passed on additional information to the United States about contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians. Is this accurate? YATES: I -- I can't answer that. FEINSTEIN: General Clapper, is that accurate? CLAPPER: Yes, it is and it's also quite sensitive.FEINSTEIN: OK. Let me ask you this.
CLAPPER: The specifics are -- are --- are quite sensitive.

Full transcript: Sally Yates and James Clapper testify on Russian election interference

Which is why Shep Smith knew in February 2017, that Trump surrogates were on the phone with Russian intelligence agents including the very day that they hacked into DNC databases.


Which is why Trump Jr. couldn't even pull off a secret Russian meeting in the Trump tower in June 2016.


They were being picked up in daily routine spying operations by several different foreign countries of their monitoring of Russian intelligence agents since 2015. That intelligence was passed onto the FBI, and James Comey started the Russian investigation in July of 2016..

And it sure didn't help that Trump got on National T.V. and admitted to Obsruction of Justice.

For more on this board.
Carter Page-Trump campaign adviser-testifies he met with Russian government officials in July 2016.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions may be facing perjury charges.
Do Russian oligarchs own Trump and his empire?
Mueller already has collusion & obstruction of justice--he's going after this Trump russian mob now.
James Clapper book (Facts & Fears) Russia was successful in getting Trump elected.
Most damaging evidence of Russian collusion with Trump campaign released today
Trump’s business sought deal on a Trump Tower in Moscow while he ran for president

This book puts it all together and reads like a Grisham spy novel. It follows all the other major media's reporting over the last 18 months, (with the exception of FOX NEWS, of course.) Very well written, easy to follow and hard to put down. It will prepare you for the open public hearings & testimony. Then the impeachment proceedings will begin.

And already an admittance of guilt
Republicans warn Trump could be impeached if Democrats win the midterm elections
Trump: If Dems win in 2018 midterms, they'll impeach me

James Clapped has ZERO credibility. He has been caught TWICE now lying under oath in front of Congress.

 

[easyt65]

See, this is how the Russians did it. By misinformation to dupe the dumbass Trump supporters.

Hey genius, evidence shows the Russians used social media to dupe SNOWFLAKES into organizing and marching for them.

Why do snowflakes always have to accuse others of doing what they do and of being who they are?

 

[Disir]

My answer is no

-Geaux

Nope.

 

[rightwinger]

See, this is how the Russians did it. By misinformation to dupe the dumbass Trump supporters.

Hey genius, evidence shows the Russians used social media to dupe SNOWFLAKES into organizing and marching for them.

Why do snowflakes always have to accuse others of doing what they do and of being who they are?

Why did Trump repeatedly use the Russian leaks if they were of no value?

 

[keepitreal]

My crystal ball says you’re pretty dumb....

I know it's got to be very embarassing for millions of Americans that now know they supported & voted for the Russian Manchurian candidate. But the facts are there to show, that without Vladimir Putin's interference into the election, that in no way would Trump be POTUS today. JAMES CLAPPER agrees with that assessment.

I imagine you're one of them-- It's not like you didn't hear it throughout the campaign. Trump continually trashed NATO & our allies, while continually praising Putin. While Republicans stood there with mouths agape. You still voted for him.

He showed you another instance. This when he met the Ruissans in the oval office, kicked out American media and let Russian media in. There werej only 3 other Americans in that room. They were H.R. McMaster, National Security adviser, Dina Powell, Deputy National Security adivser, and Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State. So which one of these 3 leaked to the Washiington Post that Trump had given classified information to the Russians, that had not gone through the process of being declassified?
Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador
Who was in Trump's meeting with the Russians? - CNNPolitics

This was done deliberately by Trump to show Putin what he could get away with as President.

In fact, US intelligence had warned Isreali Intelligence to not give Trump any classified information citing he is compromised by Russians.
The source of the intel Trump shared with Russia reportedly was warned months ago not to give it to him

What Trump didn't count on is McMaster, Powell & Tillerson, swore an oath to this country (not him) to defend and protect against foreign & domestic enemies. Did it ever occur to you that they may consider Trump to be the enemy, and that's why we get so many leaks?

For those that are interested in how Putin stole the 2016 election scroll back to page 36 post # 360 on this thread. Ignorance and denial is not going to iinsure Vladimir Putin won't do it again.

It must be embarrassing to keep repeating the same lie 3 years later and still have no evidence to back it up....

A perfect description of you. You start threads daily with all manner of idiotic claims and predictions, and they NEVER come to pass. Not ever. How embarrassing.

so dude, how did russia affect the election? let me ask that way.

They do have reading comprehension classes for adults.

Go back to page 36 post # 360 and try again. It's very clear that Vladimir Putin knows more about the demographics of American politics better than most Americans do.

I am certain that most Americans saw these Russian adds on FACEBOOK, that were then shared with millions of others.

It was specifically designed for white conservative voters in swing states, while at the same time Putin was active in getting Sanders supporters outraged at Hillary Clinton via the Russian hack & leak of Debbie Wasserman's email.

It was really brilliant on Vladimir Putin's behalf, via the internet agency from St. Petersburg, Russia.

I am certain that most Americans saw these Russian adds on FACEBOOK, that were then shared with millions of others.

I didn't see the ads because I don't have a Facebook account.

So, your problem is that Russia posted them?
Like, I'm sure people created their own memes
and were posting, sharing, liking them on Facebook.

Were we not posting, discussing the same shit here?

It was specifically designed for white conservative voters in swing states,

Are campaign ads not tailored for voter states?

Let's say Russia is guilty of running ads on Facebook...
How is that any different than Hillary and Trump,
using Facebook to run ads and millions of people,
using social media or online forums,
to make their case, for or against, Hillary and Trump?

Isn't the purpose of campaigning,
to influence undecided voters or potential voters?

Furthermore, why should it be a problem,
for people in other countries, to chime in....
After all, the person we elect as President,
will have bearing on diplomatic relations

If Russia is guilty of influencing the election,
we are all guilty of influencing the election.

 

[keepitreal]

See, this is how the Russians did it. By misinformation to dupe the dumbass Trump supporters.

Hey genius, evidence shows the Russians used social media to dupe SNOWFLAKES into organizing and marching for them.

Why do snowflakes always have to accuse others of doing what they do and of being who they are?

Why did Trump repeatedly use the Russian leaks if they were of no value?

Why did Trump repeatedly use the Russian leaks if they were of no value?

Why did Hillary avoid addressing what was leaked?

 

[jc456]

It must be embarrassing to keep repeating the same lie 3 years later and still have no evidence to back it up....

A perfect description of you. You start threads daily with all manner of idiotic claims and predictions, and they NEVER come to pass. Not ever. How embarrassing.

so dude, how did russia affect the election? let me ask that way.

They do have reading comprehension classes for adults.

Go back to page 36 post # 360 and try again. It's very clear that Vladimir Putin knows more about the demographics of American politics better than most Americans do.

I am certain that most Americans saw these Russian adds on FACEBOOK, that were then shared with millions of others.

It was specifically designed for white conservative voters in swing states, while at the same time Putin was active in getting Sanders supporters outraged at Hillary Clinton via the Russian hack & leak of Debbie Wasserman's email.

It was really brilliant on Vladimir Putin's behalf, via the internet agency from St. Petersburg, Russia.

When was being on facebook illegal?

Go get your crayons and coloring books, turn on your FOX NEWS and enjoy the storm that's coming.
Blue wave coming this November 2018

James Clapper is on record for stating that had it not been for Vladimir Putin, Trump would not be POTUS today.


This link on this thread explains how Vladimir Putin won the election.
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

This link on this thread explains why Trump gave classified information to the Russians in the Oval office
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

Here is the Russian collusion, also on this thread.
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

None of that is true other than Clapper being an asshole. All innuendo bubba. nothing based on fact. In fact, no intelligence agency has looked at the DNC server. And the emails were off of hitlery's server, so you got the wrong server. And I've posted in here already that the amount of data they claim was seazed is too big to route over a data line. There are none out there big enough to download files sizes they would have had to download. So bubba, let me again...

BTW, I do know that a pakistany man was in and out of the DNC server as an IT guy. hmmmmm not a citizen of this country. how fking odd, hired by none other left tit Debbie.

 

[rightwinger]

See, this is how the Russians did it. By misinformation to dupe the dumbass Trump supporters.

Hey genius, evidence shows the Russians used social media to dupe SNOWFLAKES into organizing and marching for them.

Why do snowflakes always have to accuse others of doing what they do and of being who they are?

Why did Trump repeatedly use the Russian leaks if they were of no value?

Why did Trump repeatedly use the Russian leaks if they were of no value?

Why did Hillary avoid addressing what was leaked?

Not the issue

The issue was a crime in breaking into that server and whether Trump benefitted from Russian assistance

He did

 

[easyt65]

Why did Hillary avoid addressing what was leaked?

You mean the revealed fact that she rigged primaries, cheated in debates, engaged in election fraud, violated election laws, broke Campaign finance laws, and colluded with / paid foreign spies and Russians for an unverified report she and the FBI used illegally in the 2016 election?





Hmmmmm.......good question.

 

[jc456]

so dude, how did russia affect the election? let me ask that way.

They do have reading comprehension classes for adults.

Go back to page 36 post # 360 and try again. It's very clear that Vladimir Putin knows more about the demographics of American politics better than most Americans do.

I am certain that most Americans saw these Russian adds on FACEBOOK, that were then shared with millions of others.

It was specifically designed for white conservative voters in swing states, while at the same time Putin was active in getting Sanders supporters outraged at Hillary Clinton via the Russian hack & leak of Debbie Wasserman's email.

It was really brilliant on Vladimir Putin's behalf, via the internet agency from St. Petersburg, Russia.

When was being on facebook illegal?

Go get your crayons and coloring books, turn on your FOX NEWS and enjoy the storm that's coming.
Blue wave coming this November 2018

James Clapper is on record for stating that had it not been for Vladimir Putin, Trump would not be POTUS today.


This link on this thread explains how Vladimir Putin won the election.
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

This link on this thread explains why Trump gave classified information to the Russians in the Oval office
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

Here is the Russian collusion, also on this thread.
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election.

...and still no Russian connection

Really? This article was confirmed by James Clapper under oath over a year ago.

[GCHQ--first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added. Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.

British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia

For confirmation that the above article is true:

FEINSTEIN: The Guardian has reported that Britain's intelligence service first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious interactions between Trump advisers and Russian intelligence agents. This information was passed on to U.S. intelligence agencies. Over the spring of 2016, multiple European allies passed on additional information to the United States about contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians. Is this accurate? YATES: I -- I can't answer that. FEINSTEIN: General Clapper, is that accurate? CLAPPER: Yes, it is and it's also quite sensitive.FEINSTEIN: OK. Let me ask you this.
CLAPPER: The specifics are -- are --- are quite sensitive.

Full transcript: Sally Yates and James Clapper testify on Russian election interference

Which is why Shep Smith knew in February 2017, that Trump surrogates were on the phone with Russian intelligence agents including the very day that they hacked into DNC databases.


Which is why Trump Jr. couldn't even pull off a secret Russian meeting in the Trump tower in June 2016.


They were being picked up in daily routine spying operations by several different foreign countries of their monitoring of Russian intelligence agents since 2015. That intelligence was passed onto the FBI, and James Comey started the Russian investigation in July of 2016..

And it sure didn't help that Trump got on National T.V. and admitted to Obsruction of Justice.

For more on this board.
Carter Page-Trump campaign adviser-testifies he met with Russian government officials in July 2016.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions may be facing perjury charges.
Do Russian oligarchs own Trump and his empire?
Mueller already has collusion & obstruction of justice--he's going after this Trump russian mob now.
James Clapper book (Facts & Fears) Russia was successful in getting Trump elected.
Most damaging evidence of Russian collusion with Trump campaign released today
Trump’s business sought deal on a Trump Tower in Moscow while he ran for president

This book puts it all together and reads like a Grisham spy novel. It follows all the other major media's reporting over the last 18 months, (with the exception of FOX NEWS, of course.) Very well written, easy to follow and hard to put down. It will prepare you for the open public hearings & testimony. Then the impeachment proceedings will begin.

And already an admittance of guilt
Republicans warn Trump could be impeached if Democrats win the midterm elections
Trump: If Dems win in 2018 midterms, they'll impeach me

dude still can't get over that you don't have any fking facts. try finding some. oh wait, you can't because it never fking happened. read my last post.

 

[jc456]

My answer is no

-Geaux

My answer is yes, but that's not the point.

Watergate didn't change the outcome of the 1972 election, that was a route for the Democrats, but Nixon still had to resign once his role in the coverup became clear.

Trump is now actively engaging in the coverup.

covering up what?

 

[jc456]

I know it's got to be very embarassing for millions of Americans that now know they supported & voted for the Russian Manchurian candidate. But the facts are there to show, that without Vladimir Putin's interference into the election, that in no way would Trump be POTUS today. JAMES CLAPPER agrees with that assessment.

I imagine you're one of them-- It's not like you didn't hear it throughout the campaign. Trump continually trashed NATO & our allies, while continually praising Putin. While Republicans stood there with mouths agape. You still voted for him.

He showed you another instance. This when he met the Ruissans in the oval office, kicked out American media and let Russian media in. There werej only 3 other Americans in that room. They were H.R. McMaster, National Security adviser, Dina Powell, Deputy National Security adivser, and Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State. So which one of these 3 leaked to the Washiington Post that Trump had given classified information to the Russians, that had not gone through the process of being declassified?
Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador
Who was in Trump's meeting with the Russians? - CNNPolitics

This was done deliberately by Trump to show Putin what he could get away with as President.

In fact, US intelligence had warned Isreali Intelligence to not give Trump any classified information citing he is compromised by Russians.
The source of the intel Trump shared with Russia reportedly was warned months ago not to give it to him

What Trump didn't count on is McMaster, Powell & Tillerson, swore an oath to this country (not him) to defend and protect against foreign & domestic enemies. Did it ever occur to you that they may consider Trump to be the enemy, and that's why we get so many leaks?

For those that are interested in how Putin stole the 2016 election scroll back to page 36 post # 360 on this thread. Ignorance and denial is not going to iinsure Vladimir Putin won't do it again.

It must be embarrassing to keep repeating the same lie 3 years later and still have no evidence to back it up....

A perfect description of you. You start threads daily with all manner of idiotic claims and predictions, and they NEVER come to pass. Not ever. How embarrassing.

so dude, how did russia affect the election? let me ask that way.

They do have reading comprehension classes for adults.

Go back to page 36 post # 360 and try again. It's very clear that Vladimir Putin knows more about the demographics of American politics better than most Americans do.

I am certain that most Americans saw these Russian adds on FACEBOOK, that were then shared with millions of others.

It was specifically designed for white conservative voters in swing states, while at the same time Putin was active in getting Sanders supporters outraged at Hillary Clinton via the Russian hack & leak of Debbie Wasserman's email.

It was really brilliant on Vladimir Putin's behalf, via the internet agency from St. Petersburg, Russia.

I am certain that most Americans saw these Russian adds on FACEBOOK, that were then shared with millions of others.

I didn't see the ads because I don't have a Facebook account.

So, your problem is that Russia posted them?
Like, I'm sure people created their own memes
and were posting, sharing, liking them on Facebook.

Were we not posting, discussing the same shit here?

It was specifically designed for white conservative voters in swing states,

Are campaign ads not tailored for voter states?

Let's say Russia is guilty of running ads on Facebook...
How is that any different than Hillary and Trump,
using Facebook to run ads and millions of people,
using social media or online forums,
to make their case, for or against, Hillary and Trump?

Isn't the purpose of campaigning,
to influence undecided voters or potential voters?

Furthermore, why should it be a problem,
for people in other countries, to chime in....
After all, the person we elect as President,
will have bearing on diplomatic relations

If Russia is guilty of influencing the election,
we are all guilty of influencing the election.

the real question to those derps is...does the US engage in other foreign country elections? well yes we do. So, the hypocrites are merely highlighting themselves the hypocrites.

 

[easyt65]

Clapper’s actions sure do look like political manipulations

James Clapper Committed Perjury On The Senate Floor And Still Continued To Be Director Of National Intelligence Under Obama – Investment Watch Blog

 

[jc456]

It must be embarrassing to keep repeating the same lie 3 years later and still have no evidence to back it up....

A perfect description of you. You start threads daily with all manner of idiotic claims and predictions, and they NEVER come to pass. Not ever. How embarrassing.

so dude, how did russia affect the election? let me ask that way.

They do have reading comprehension classes for adults.

Go back to page 36 post # 360 and try again. It's very clear that Vladimir Putin knows more about the demographics of American politics better than most Americans do.

I am certain that most Americans saw these Russian adds on FACEBOOK, that were then shared with millions of others.

It was specifically designed for white conservative voters in swing states, while at the same time Putin was active in getting Sanders supporters outraged at Hillary Clinton via the Russian hack & leak of Debbie Wasserman's email.

It was really brilliant on Vladimir Putin's behalf, via the internet agency from St. Petersburg, Russia.

I am certain that most Americans saw these Russian adds on FACEBOOK, that were then shared with millions of others.

I didn't see the ads because I don't have a Facebook account.

So, your problem is that Russia posted them?
Like, I'm sure people created their own memes
and were posting, sharing, liking them on Facebook.

Were we not posting, discussing the same shit here?

It was specifically designed for white conservative voters in swing states,

Are campaign ads not tailored for voter states?

Let's say Russia is guilty of running ads on Facebook...
How is that any different than Hillary and Trump,
using Facebook to run ads and millions of people,
using social media or online forums,
to make their case, for or against, Hillary and Trump?

Isn't the purpose of campaigning,
to influence undecided voters or potential voters?

Furthermore, why should it be a problem,
for people in other countries, to chime in....
After all, the person we elect as President,
will have bearing on diplomatic relations

If Russia is guilty of influencing the election,
we are all guilty of influencing the election.

the real question to those derps is...does the US engage in other foreign country elections? well yes we do. So, the hypocrites are merely highlighting themselves the hypocrites.

poor losers do these sorts of things.

 

[rightwinger]

Russia fed Trump illegally obtained information

Trump repeatedly used it

Yes, Russia influenced the election

 

[Dschrute3]

Not even a matter of opinion. The facts show that a couple Russia hack-attempts didn't change a single vote in the Election. Time to put the Dem sore loser-manufactured Russia meme to bed.

 

[rightwinger]

Not even a matter of opinion. The facts show that a couple Russia hack-attempts didn't change a single vote in the Election. Time to put the Dem sore loser-manufactured Russia meme to bed.

No facts prove that

If the information was of no value, why did Trump use the hacks as soon as they were released?

 

[playtime]

Really? Hillary's fake info from Russians was okay?

Correct, as it was not solicited from a foreign government. Wow dude....literally square one...

Who was Steele?

a private citizen at the time.

A foreigner.

he was working for fusion GPS. a private citizen working for an american company.

not a lawyer working for the government of a hostile country. oh well, sucks to be everyone at trump tower meeting that fateful day.