Zone1 do you agree with Paul that women should be quiet in church?

[Zebra]

do you?

 

[Zebra]

do you?

i dont …..

 

[Manonthestreet]

i dont …..

Think only prohibition is the pulpit

 

[luiza]

Same guy who invented the Trinity and generally laid out Cult Christianity to suit his prejudices and unbalanced personality .

 

[alang1216]

do you?

I don't think that was Paul's position at all, his was exactly the opposite. Writings attributed to him that do say this date from a later time in Church history.

 

[mudwhistle]

Same guy who invented the Trinity and generally laid out Cult Christianity to suit his prejudices and unbalanced personality .

Whoever thinks everything has to do with Climate-Change is just as unbalanced.

 

[Zebra]

2 x no …. now

 

[The Irish Ram]

Paul not only condoned women speaking in church, he had females who worked with him. Phoebe for one.
That command that Paul gave was to one particular church where the women who did speak in church were going to a seer and were prophesying incorrect information. Paul told those women to shut up and sit down and listen to their husbands for insight.

 

[Zebra]

Paul not only condoned women speaking in church, he had females who worked with him. Phoebe for one.
That command that Paul gave was to one particular church where the women who did speak in church were going to a seer and were prophesying incorrect information. Paul told those women to shut up and sit down and listen to their husbands for insight.

who said so?

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

i dont …..

so you think they should be yapping away, interrupting a church service? If you're talking about woman led churches, theyre all anti-biblical. Every last one. God is not with those churches.

 

[Zebra]

Paul not only condoned women speaking in church, he had females who worked with him. Phoebe for one.
That command that Paul gave was to one particular church where the women who did speak in church were going to a seer and were prophesying incorrect information. Paul told those women to shut up and sit down and listen to their husbands for insight.

so only corinthian women shut shut up?

 

[Meriweather]

so only corinthian women shut shut up?

Have you ever been to church? Something is said, people respond. A song is introduced, all the people sing. A homily is given, the people listen. If someone, during a prayer or homily, begins talking to the point other people cannot hear the homily, what is the polite or reasonable thing to do? Should the speaker be asked to step aside because people are conversing? Or, should those conversing save their conversation for another time and place?

Apparently, in Corinth, as in every Christian gathering, all were welcome. Men brought their wives, and the wives weren't clear on what was happening or why? So right there they began asking those around them what was going on. Anyone who has ever been in a classroom when all of a sudden conversations break out among the students and the teacher can no longer be heard, can easily imagine what was taking place in Corinth. Paul suggested a solution: Women, remain quiet in church, and then once you return home, have your husband answer your questions and give further explanations.

Makes sense. The next time women attend church, they will be a part of what is going on instead of feeling like outsiders trying to figure it all out.

In another letter, we can see Paul did hold to the idea that men should teach other men; that women should not be the teachers of men. There are pluses to this as well, but no need to make it a hard and fast rule. And no need to criticize Paul for his recommendation.

 

[Zebra]

Have you ever been to church? Something is said, people respond. A song is introduced, all the people sing. A homily is given, the people listen. If someone, during a prayer or homily, begins talking to the point other people cannot hear the homily, what is the polite or reasonable thing to do? Should the speaker be asked to step aside because people are conversing? Or, should those conversing save their conversation for another time and place?

Apparently, in Corinth, as in every Christian gathering, all were welcome. Men brought their wives, and the wives weren't clear on what was happening or why? So right there they began asking those around them what was going on. Anyone who has ever been in a classroom when all of a sudden conversations break out among the students and the teacher can no longer be heard, can easily imagine what was taking place in Corinth. Paul suggested a solution: Women, remain quiet in church, and then once you return home, have your husband answer your questions and give further explanations.

Makes sense. The next time women attend church, they will be a part of what is going on instead of feeling like outsiders trying to figure it all out.

In another letter, we can see Paul did hold to the idea that men should teach other men; that women should not be the teachers of men. There are pluses to this as well, but no need to make it a hard and fast rule. And no need to criticize Paul for his recommendation.

if that is so, why then did paul not just write: newcomers should be quiet in church. …… whether they are men or women ……

 

[Anathema]

Yes, of course; as they should be almost everywhere in Society.

 

[Meriweather]

if that is so, when did paul not just write: newcomers should be quiet in church. …… whether they are men or women ……

So....even though it was just women who were causing the commotion Paul is at fault by not saying "newcomers"? Consider, perhaps, we are descending into nitpicking?

 

[Zebra]

So....even though it was just women who were causing the commotion Paul is at fault by not saying "newcomers"? Consider, perhaps, we are descending into nitpicking?

no, we are not.

who said that only women were asking things?

men can behave the same, and probably did.

 

[Zebra]

Yes, of course; as they should be almost everywhere in Society.

i see that you understand my point.

 

[Zebra]

Paul not only condoned women speaking in church, he had females who worked with him. Phoebe for one.
That command that Paul gave was to one particular church where the women who did speak in church were going to a seer and were prophesying incorrect information. Paul told those women to shut up and sit down and listen to their husbands for insight.

who said that in that particular church it was only the women who caused trouble?

nobody said so.

 

[Anathema]

i see that you understand my point

I think you misunderstand. I believe women should be SILENCED both in the church and in society at large. There are places for their voices to be heard, but they are decidedly limited.

 

[Zebra]

now….

three dont
two do
one is unsure