CDZ Do you agree that, only through government, can people...

[K9Buck]

a zygote or a fetus...

...is a human being in its earliest stages of life.

But let's not get sidetracked on the abortion subject.

 

[otto105]

Also, the constitution says you can spread at will a disease during a pandemic?

So you support the concept that the government can suspend a citizen's rights over any "crisis". I disagree.

Any "crisis"?

Is this pandemic which has killed 340,000 people in 9 months "any"?

"Any" would be your made up vote fraud bullshit.

 

[K9Buck]

"Any" would be your made up vote fraud bullshit.

Not a topic of this thread. Why are you bringing it here?

 

[K9Buck]

Is this pandemic which has killed 340,000 people in 9 months "any"?

So you agree that any mayor, governor, public official, etc. can suspend a citizen's constitutional rights if they deem it necessary, right?

In other words, if a cop doesn't like you video-recording him arresting someone, he can deem it necessary to suspend your rights and arrest you, right?

 

[beagle9]

...realize their true potential and achieve their shared destiny?

If so, why do you believe such?

Yes, without a good road to drive on commerce doesn't happen.

Anyone who feels that we are just a bunch of individuals going whatever have never experienced team sports. Government provides the rules for everyone to play by. Government provides equal opportunity for all people to excel.

People who answer this question no, have no idea or are just plain greedy.

No one has an issue with government providing services like military protection, roads, infrastructure, environmental protection, air quality control, pollution control/disposal of hazardous waste etc, but what people don't want the government doing is involving itself deeply into cultural beliefs, religious beliefs, and domestic affairs where it begins to dictate to the masses for the wrecklace whims of a few.

It has become a very serious problem.

Please describe "Wrechlace (sic) whims of a few?

A wrecklace whim is for example something that causes great turmoil and strife amongst the tribes over time. It is usually talked about in great concerns of, yet to no avail sadly enough in alot of ways..... For example, the government getting dragged into the abortion issue, and the next thing ya know it is having to make decisions either going along with it or not going along with it, otherwise it all depends upon how the political winds might be blowing that ends up steering the government into making policy that might be wrecklace policy, but it won't realize it until years go by, and the body counts become hundreds of thousands in the wake of it all..

 

[otto105]

a zygote or a fetus...

...is a human being in its earliest stages of life.

But let's not get sidetracked on the abortion subject.

I zygote is a few c

Is this pandemic which has killed 340,000 people in 9 months "any"?

So you agree that any mayor, governor, public official, etc. can suspend a citizen's constitutional rights if they deem it necessary, right?

In other words, if a cop doesn't like you video-recording him arresting someone, he can deem it necessary to suspend your rights and arrest you, right?

Are you a fucking idiot. Is the COVID pandemic anywhere in the same universe as a body camera?

Stupid fucking dead-end trumper.

God, I'm stupider just from reading that post.

 

[K9Buck]

Are you a fucking idiot. Is the COVID pandemic anywhere in the same universe as a body camera?
Stupid fucking dead-end trumper.

You are easily triggered.

If we don't have constitutional rights during times of "crisis", then we don't have constitutional rights.

 

[beagle9]

...realize their true potential and achieve their shared destiny?

If so, why do you believe such?

Yes, without a good road to drive on commerce doesn't happen.

Anyone who feels that we are just a bunch of individuals going whatever have never experienced team sports. Government provides the rules for everyone to play by. Government provides equal opportunity for all people to excel.

People who answer this question no, have no idea or are just plain greedy.

No one has an issue with government providing services like military protection, roads, infrastructure, environmental protection, air quality control, pollution control/disposal of hazardous waste etc, but what people don't want the government doing is involving itself deeply into cultural beliefs, religious beliefs, and domestic affairs where it begins to dictate to the masses for the wrecklace whims of a few.

It has become a very serious problem.

I see where you coming from. You want government not to be involved in anyone's economic person, but want to dictate so much on the personal side. Limit women right to choose size of family, dictate gay rights and return to a black and white world.

Why is it conservatives never advance the rights and freedoms?

No the leftist are the ones needing government to dictate on the personal side, not Christian living conservatives that just want to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit, and to protect and preserve life when ever they can. Christian's care about things that are hurting people (diseases) or that are killing people in huge numbers (abortion), and after enough of that takes place, then Christian's voice their concerns about it all, and rightfully so.

And no one wants a black and white America again, so keep your race card holstered feller. We see the black race doing great things, and making their stands on the issues in a positive way, so racism is fast becoming a faded bumper sticker these days, and that's absolutely great. Gays have their own created unique world's in which they are content to live in I guess, but of course they are used as a political football just like the blacks are when the battles begin in justifying the power and wealth grabs in Washington by politician's who then use groups (Biden race baiting) in unscrupulous ways.

Government intrusion into most areas is not without casualties, otherwise where it attempts to pick winners and losers constantly depending upon which way the political winds are blowing.

Now if all the pro-life concerns of Christian's are ignored, then so be it, but government doesn't need to be a part of the murderous bullcrap going on in this nation. It should be taking a stand for life always, but we see to often where it ends up leaning heavily all due to the pressures that are foisted upon it, and then it welcoming the turmoil with open arms regardless.

 

[otto105]

Are you a fucking idiot. Is the COVID pandemic anywhere in the same universe as a body camera?
Stupid fucking dead-end trumper.

You are easily triggered.

If we don't have constitutional rights during times of "crisis", then we don't have constitutional rights.

Sure, this from the party who talks of martial law to overturn an election they didn't win.

Wearing a mask and not spreading a deadly virus is no small "crisis".

 

[otto105]

...realize their true potential and achieve their shared destiny?

If so, why do you believe such?

Yes, without a good road to drive on commerce doesn't happen.

Anyone who feels that we are just a bunch of individuals going whatever have never experienced team sports. Government provides the rules for everyone to play by. Government provides equal opportunity for all people to excel.

People who answer this question no, have no idea or are just plain greedy.

No one has an issue with government providing services like military protection, roads, infrastructure, environmental protection, air quality control, pollution control/disposal of hazardous waste etc, but what people don't want the government doing is involving itself deeply into cultural beliefs, religious beliefs, and domestic affairs where it begins to dictate to the masses for the wrecklace whims of a few.

It has become a very serious problem.

I see where you coming from. You want government not to be involved in anyone's economic person, but want to dictate so much on the personal side. Limit women right to choose size of family, dictate gay rights and return to a black and white world.

Why is it conservatives never advance the rights and freedoms?

No the leftist are the ones needing government to dictate on the personal side, not Christian living conservatives that just want to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit, and to protect and preserve life when ever they can. Christian's care about things that are hurting people (diseases) or that are killing people in huge numbers (abortion), and after enough of that takes place, then Christian's voice their concerns about it all, and rightfully so.

And no one wants a black and white America again, so keep your race card holstered feller. We see the black race doing great things, and making their stands on the issues in a positive way, so racism is fast becoming a faded bumper sticker these days, and that's absolutely great. Gays have their own created unique world's in which they are content to live in I guess, but of course they are used as a political football just like the blacks are when the battles begin in justifying the power and wealth grabs in Washington by politician's who then use groups (Biden race baiting) in unscrupulous ways.

Government intrusion into most areas is not without casualties, otherwise where it attempts to pick winners and losers constantly depending upon which way the political winds are blowing.

Now if all the pro-life concerns of Christian's are ignored, then so be it, but government doesn't need to be a part of the murderous bullcrap going on in this nation. It should be taking a stand for life always, but we see to often where it ends up leaning heavily all due to the pressures that are foisted upon it, and then it welcoming the turmoil with open arms regardless.

Bullshit.

You christian conservatives look to control our government to implement a christian nation. Your false arguments to the contrary are laughable.

 

[beagle9]

Also, the constitution says you can spread at will a disease during a pandemic?

So you support the concept that the government can suspend a citizen's rights over any "crisis". I disagree.

Any "crisis"?

Is this pandemic which has killed 340,000 people in 9 months "any"?

"Any" would be your made up vote fraud bullshit.

You mean the pandemic where I should see people just falling dead in the street or being buried in the back yard because of the overwhelming death rates and hospital bed limits due to over running cases in the death wards at the hospitals ??? That pandemic ??? Wait you must be living in 1919, and somehow you've been time warped here to the year 2020. So far I don't know anyone personally that has died from the Covid, but I know plenty that have become sick with it, and have overcome it including me. Living in fear is the wrong way to go, but it's ok if one does I guess. I have no problem with anyone using their judgement to wash their hands, and to wear their mask. Just be thankful that you are here, and not living in 1919.

 

[anotherlife]

...realize their true potential and achieve their shared destiny?

If so, why do you believe such?

Yes, because government destroys everything else aggressively. And then every destiny is shared too. If your neighbor isn't sharing your chickenshit destiny then you can report him to the government, especially if you want to have sex with his wife.

 

[beagle9]

...realize their true potential and achieve their shared destiny?

If so, why do you believe such?

Yes, without a good road to drive on commerce doesn't happen.

Anyone who feels that we are just a bunch of individuals going whatever have never experienced team sports. Government provides the rules for everyone to play by. Government provides equal opportunity for all people to excel.

People who answer this question no, have no idea or are just plain greedy.

No one has an issue with government providing services like military protection, roads, infrastructure, environmental protection, air quality control, pollution control/disposal of hazardous waste etc, but what people don't want the government doing is involving itself deeply into cultural beliefs, religious beliefs, and domestic affairs where it begins to dictate to the masses for the wrecklace whims of a few.

It has become a very serious problem.

I see where you coming from. You want government not to be involved in anyone's economic person, but want to dictate so much on the personal side. Limit women right to choose size of family, dictate gay rights and return to a black and white world.

Why is it conservatives never advance the rights and freedoms?

No the leftist are the ones needing government to dictate on the personal side, not Christian living conservatives that just want to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit, and to protect and preserve life when ever they can. Christian's care about things that are hurting people (diseases) or that are killing people in huge numbers (abortion), and after enough of that takes place, then Christian's voice their concerns about it all, and rightfully so.

And no one wants a black and white America again, so keep your race card holstered feller. We see the black race doing great things, and making their stands on the issues in a positive way, so racism is fast becoming a faded bumper sticker these days, and that's absolutely great. Gays have their own created unique world's in which they are content to live in I guess, but of course they are used as a political football just like the blacks are when the battles begin in justifying the power and wealth grabs in Washington by politician's who then use groups (Biden race baiting) in unscrupulous ways.

Government intrusion into most areas is not without casualties, otherwise where it attempts to pick winners and losers constantly depending upon which way the political winds are blowing.

Now if all the pro-life concerns of Christian's are ignored, then so be it, but government doesn't need to be a part of the murderous bullcrap going on in this nation. It should be taking a stand for life always, but we see to often where it ends up leaning heavily all due to the pressures that are foisted upon it, and then it welcoming the turmoil with open arms regardless.

Bullshit.

You christian conservatives look to control our government to implement a christian nation. Your false arguments to the contrary are laughable.

If that was the case, it would be a Christian nation totally, otherwise it wouldn't be that you would have the freedom you have now to do and say what you do against the Christian's.

Christian's have been here ever since the nation was formed, and yes it is an influential religion and culture, but it's not without mistakes and problems just like any other culture in this great country, so calm your nerves boy, and be glad that you are wrong about it all. Just quit attempting to change the nation for the worse, and everything will be ok.

 

[Donald H]

No.

I do believe that individuals can achieve their potential, in spite of government.

That has proven to be impossible for all citizens of the apartheid regime/state. Zionists burn and destroy citizens' lands and property with impunity and then the world's countries condemn the Zionists' behaviour at the UNSC but the motion fails due to US veto.

 

[fncceo]

No.

I do believe that individuals can achieve their potential, in spite of government.

That has proven to be impossible for all citizens of the apartheid regime/state. Zionists burn and destroy citizens' lands and property with impunity and then the world's countries condemn the Zionists' behaviour at the UNSC but the motion fails due to US veto.

 

[Donald H]

No.

I do believe that individuals can achieve their potential, in spite of government.

That has proven to be impossible for all citizens of the apartheid regime/state. Zionists burn and destroy citizens' lands and property with impunity and then the world's countries condemn the Zionists' behaviour at the UNSC but the motion fails due to US veto.

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You invite a response, due to your support of apartheid and then object to the appropriate response to the question. Can there be any other modern country in which the regime is so evil as to limit the rights and freedoms of a portion of it's citizens to that level?

 

[otto105]

...realize their true potential and achieve their shared destiny?

If so, why do you believe such?

I believe that we have allowed government to think that we can't make it unless government is providing the platform for us to make it, otherwise where it forces us to be kind to one another no matter what. This started in the 60s due to the civil rights revolution, and that was A-ok, but it's expansion after realizing the power it gained over us during that time period, has now been utilized in the worse ways in these modern times. That's how it works doesn't it people, otherwise our government gained an inch, but then it confiscated the whole show. Even the black's realize this now (the ones who aren't falling for thethe 5 days work week and then bullcrap), because them seeing this power grab expansionism at their expense (trashing their will to not be controlled by unethical scrupulous forces), is forcing them to take a step back now, and to analyze what in the heck is going on in their good name in which they don't support.

Dude, it started long before the 1960's. Labor movements, worker health and safety issues, the 5 day work week then World Wars which took us from a small government nothing nation to a powerful one.

You need to understand our rise to power and compare that to our government structure.

 

[K9Buck]

You christian conservatives look to control our government to implement a christian nation.

Some do, I confess. I however, have long advocated for separation of church from state and that we Christians refrain from passing laws meant to legislate the lives of people based on Christian theology.

For instance, we Christians should let secular people be secular.

I have been banned from Christian forums for advocating that gay-marriage be permitted by law.

 

[otto105]

Is this pandemic which has killed 340,000 people in 9 months "any"?

So you agree that any mayor, governor, public official, etc. can suspend a citizen's constitutional rights if they deem it necessary, right?

In other words, if a cop doesn't like you video-recording him arresting someone, he can deem it necessary to suspend your rights and arrest you, right?

Why the deliberate drop of the the pandemic for some arbitrary "deem it necessary". We're as a world in the middle of a deadly pandemic.

If you want to argue a strawman, you need a better one.

 

[K9Buck]

If your neighbor isn't sharing your chickenshit destiny then you can report him to the government, especially if you want to have sex with his wife.

Did somebody lace your stash?