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So you consider the US keeping a promise to help defend an ally's sovereign border from an unwarranted invasion / attack 'challenging' Putin / Russia?!
I am sorry for continuing to ask these questions, but they are truly mind-numbing to be.....'perspective' is truly an eye-opening thing.
HISTORY LESSON:
1. Hitler wrote that at the beginning of WWII he moved his troops into the 'buffer zone' established at the end of WWI in violation of that end-of-war agreement. Hitler stated in his writings that his military was NOT ready to go to war, not ready for conflict, that he was 'testing the waters', and if France had made ANY gesture of opposition to his troops being there he would have pulled them back. Hitler added that when no move was made against him - an act of appeasement - he said he KNEW right then and there that he could take all of Europe because they were un-willing to fight, willing to sacrifice others' freedom to keep their own.
2. Vladimir Putin, not long after he became Leader of Russia, stated in an interview - when asked what was his biggest regret about Russia - his biggest regret was seeing the USSR allow these small nations break away from the USSR and become independent. He went on to say that he intended to 'remedy that and return the USSR to its former glory'. You can bet Putin has not forgotten that.
IMO, the Ukraine situation is the continuation of Putin's Crimea gambit, which, again IMO, was Putin's 'Hitler Test'. Putin sought to find out if anyone - especially the US / Obama - would actually step up to help their new ally and risk going to war with Russia. Just like with his Syrian 'Red Line', Barry backed down from the challenge without making so much as a token gesture of opposition to Putin's military annexing of Crimea.
My goodness. You're fully indoctrinated, aren't you?
That screed tells me you don't know jack squat nothing about history.
Are you asking if Americans really want to keep our promise to allies of helping them defend their nations or would they rather turn their back on allies when they are threatened because standing beside allies as promised when it counts is just too hard?Just curious how tough everyone wants to be with Putin. Do we want to challenge Russia or not?
Are you seriously asking if people actually want to stand up to Putin or back down and cower to him, abandon allies to avoid facing Putin / Russia?
1. The United States promised to help defend the Ukraine's sovereign borders.1. What promise did the US make to the Ukraine? Same one as to Crimea? Link please
2. What perspective are you confused about? The US is NOT the world's cop. If NATO and their feeble militaries (other than the US) want to get involved in the Ukraine, another away game for the US, what's in it for the US as to risk and cost? Is the Ukraine vital to the US and EU?
Let him keep going. In a few weeks when Trump has done nothing but cower to Putin he will be back on here telling us how amazing Trump is for not doing anything...then we can bring up this thread and laugh in his face...yet again.
'I don't want to send American Boys to Europe to fight no Nazis'.I don't want to send American boys to Ukraine. Not even the Europeans want to defend Ukraine.
...like SYRIA?Very quick to offer up to sacrifice young Americans in places that don't matter.
NATO is largely a paper tiger. Most Europeans don't care about military spending and care even less about NATO. Why should we?
A better way of saying it is that the United States uses NATO to escalate conflict with Russia.
Thought you were focused on rescuing the Nazi regime in Ukraine for this thread. Now you want to detour to the Syrian misadventure....like SYRIA?Very quick to offer up to sacrifice young Americans in places that don't matter.
It would seem challenging Russia over Ukraine would be another losing proposition. Putin's supply lines are just too much shorter than ours, at least according to Larry Wilkerson, former chief-of-staff to Colin Powell.Just curious how tough everyone wants to be with Putin. Do we want to challenge Russia or not?
Please don't drag me into your delusions regarding the origins of the Democratic Party.Thought you were focused on rescuing the Nazi regime in Ukraine for this thread. Now you want to detour to the Syrian misadventure....like SYRIA?Very quick to offer up to sacrifice young Americans in places that don't matter.
Babbling bullshit aside then, you apparently have nothing.Please don't drag me into your delusions regarding the origins of the Democratic Party.Thought you were focused on rescuing the Nazi regime in Ukraine for this thread. Now you want to detour to the Syrian misadventure....like SYRIA?Very quick to offer up to sacrifice young Americans in places that don't matter.
You can let go of the 1940s and come join the rest of in 2018 now.
The Ukraine is no more a 'Nazi regime' than you are a cross-dressing Russian hermaphrodite..... Wait, let me re-phrase that (since I don't know you) - The Ukraine is NOT a 'Nazi Regime'.
I apologize for my factual comment regarding the Nobel Peace Prize winner's jaunt into Syria in an attempt to help ISIS over-throw Al-Assad. I forgot for a moment how fragile and easily offended you snowflakes are, especially this early in the morning. My bad.
It would seem challenging Russia over Ukraine would be another losing proposition. Putin's supply lines are just too much shorter than ours, at least according to Larry Wilkerson, former chief-of-staff to Colin Powell.
If BS is anti-Putin BS it's not BS any more but a new American rule. (Just an observation)Babbling bullshit aside then, you apparently have nothing.Please don't drag me into your delusions regarding the origins of the Democratic Party.Thought you were focused on rescuing the Nazi regime in Ukraine for this thread. Now you want to detour to the Syrian misadventure....like SYRIA?Very quick to offer up to sacrifice young Americans in places that don't matter.
You can let go of the 1940s and come join the rest of in 2018 now.
The Ukraine is no more a 'Nazi regime' than you are a cross-dressing Russian hermaphrodite..... Wait, let me re-phrase that (since I don't know you) - The Ukraine is NOT a 'Nazi Regime'.
I apologize for my factual comment regarding the Nobel Peace Prize winner's jaunt into Syria in an attempt to help ISIS over-throw Al-Assad. I forgot for a moment how fragile and easily offended you snowflakes are, especially this early in the morning. My bad.
It would seem challenging Russia over Ukraine would be another losing proposition. Putin's supply lines are just too much shorter than ours, at least according to Larry Wilkerson, former chief-of-staff to Colin Powell.
Yeah, wow....how would the United States ever come up with a solution to a problem / challenge that looks so impossible to overcome? Never been done before....Oh, wait....
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www.historynet.com
The Berlin Airlift: The End of the Blockade. By spring 1949, it was clear that the Soviet blockade of West Berlin had failed. It had not persuaded West Berliners to reject their allies in the West, nor had it prevented the creation of a unified West German state.
Berlin Airlift - HISTORY
https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/berlin-airlift
In other words I kicked the living crap out of your 'The Ukraine Is a 'Nazi State' insanity, and you are trying to respond with some type of puffery so you won't look like the shamed idiot you are....Babbling bullshit aside then, you apparently have nothing.