Do Republicans need a Plan B for Obamacare?

What happens to the Republican Governors in 2014 who refused to set up State Exchanges and turned down Medicaid expansion in their states?

Are their Democratic opponents going to hit the airwaves with "This is what you would be paying for insurance if Gov GOP didn't block it"

How will Red State voters respond when they compare what their insurance options are compared to other states?

If Democrats can get that message regarding state exchanges out and keep hammering Republicans with it, that will be a factor. I definately don't like Rs taking charge of the message.

In 2014 we are talking Governors, Senators, Congressmen and State legislators

What are they going to run on?

Are Republican Governors going to defend their decisions to not run state sponsored exchanges? Are they going to defend turning down additional Medicaid support for struggling workers?

Are Republican Congressmen and Senators going to run on their vast accomplishments in Congress?
 
Obama has a history of complete and pathetic failure on all his policies both foreign and domestic, where are you Democrats finding all this faith, just wondering?
 
3 pages in and Repubs only solution is no solution and/or why should we offer an alternative
 
OK Republicans what is your end game? You are banking the 2014 election on Obamacare must fail.....what happens if it doesn't?


Do Republicans need a Plan B on ObamaCare? - The Week

For years, Republicans have trotted out the same message: ObamaCare is a massive disaster, and the public knows it. And when Healthcare.gov crashed out of the starting gate, that message proved quite resonant.

Which raises a thorny question for the GOP: What if ObamaCare works?

If ObamaCare keeps improving, the GOP's "we told you ObamaCare was a mess" pitch could quickly wear thin. And if it does, Republicans will find themselves in need of a new argument or a legislative alternative.

"For them, it just doesn't matter if Healthcare.gov is working, since ObamaCare is destined to fail, reality be damned!" he added. "At most, the broken website was useful fodder for attacks on the administration. Now that it's made progress, the GOP will revert to its usual declarations that the Affordable Care Act is a hopeless disaster."

Which points to another problem for Republicans: Their anti-ObamaCare crusade will be tough to sustain once people begin to see the law's benefits in action. Mother Jones' Kevin Drum sussed out that point, writing, "Once the benefits of a new program start flowing, it's very, very hard to turn them off."

I think that their proposed "fixes" only acct for a small portion of what really needs to be done to rein in the hospital/insurance industrial complex
 
3 pages in and Repubs only solution is no solution and/or why should we offer an alternative

Again, moron

Reduce regulations to allow ANY group to negotiate group rates (groups of businesses, clubs, groups of people, HOA's, chess clubs, etc etc etc)
Reduce regulations to open up the marketplace across the board and across state lines
Make SIMPLE law that states that all citizens must be able to purchase a healtcare or health insurance plan regardless of pre-existing conditions
Enact tort reform to reduce lawsuits
Reduce regulations to allow individual practices or groups of practices to offer preventative care at a monthly subscription cost, leaving the catastrophic care to insurance or to health savings accounts
Make a SIMPLE law requiring all medical providers to publish a price list for good and services so that costs are not hidden behind some 'all inclusive' insurance plan

It is not government's duty or job to be your nanny, your insurance provider, your healthcare provider, the one that funnels forced 'customers' to approved businesses who pay the government off, r anything of the sort
 
Ahhh.. the trick of the lefties.. try and get the conservatives to say it has to be a GOVERNMENT handled solution...

The problem IS that it is government based to begin with

Challenge to Republicans

Offer up a non-government alternative to Obamacare

Reduce regulations to allow ANY group to negotiate group rates (groups of businesses, clubs, groups of people, HOA's, chess clubs, etc etc etc)
Reduce regulations to open up the marketplace across the board and across state lines
Make SIMPLE law that states that all citizens must be able to purchase a healtcare or health insurance plan regardless of pre-existing conditions
Enact tort reform to reduce lawsuits
Reduce regulations to allow individual practices or groups of practices to offer preventative care at a monthly subscription cost, leaving the catastrophic care to insurance or to health savings accounts
Make a SIMPLE law requiring all medical providers to publish a price list for good and services so that costs are not hidden behind some 'all inclusive' insurance plan

Fixed...

It is not up to government to create the marketplace, offer the service at a discount to it's chosen few, mandate purchase of a plan that only they qualify, or be in the business of healthcare at all

Not bad and duplicates much of what is in Obamacare.Why don't Republicans have a plan?

Simple question Republicans: Why don't you push a solution for universal healthcare coverage?
Simple answer: Because Republicans do not want Americans to have universal healthcare coverage
 
good all the way to the 3:00+ min mark ;)

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KsfZmebK9U]Dem Rep. Bill Pascrell Jumps Out of Chair, Explodes at GOP'ers During Obamacare Hearing - YouTube[/ame]
 
Warrior102 is going to give us the straight dope from the LGBT perspective :popcorn:

As to the OP, Repubs had 6 years of complete control & only passed the flawed medicare part D WHICH the democrats helped them work on to fix after its < stellar rollout
 
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You're posting a google search? :eusa_eh: come on lumpy 1. I thought you were a conservative boot-strapper type?
 
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I just did a google search on this topic "Republican Healthcare Plan" and WoW.. look what I found.

Maybe Obama's staff, the Democrat media, members on the USMB and the typical butt kissing parrots just can't do Google searches.

It does help explain this epic brain farting..:lol:



https://www.google.com/search?q=Rep...:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb

This is the sketch of a plan that was savaged by critics

If this is their plan, why aren't Republicans pushing it? If they want to repeal Obamacare, where is their timeline to implement the Republican plan? Where is their funding information? How will they cover all the people they kick off insurance and how long will it take?
 
I just did a google search on this topic "Republican Healthcare Plan" and WoW.. look what I found.

Maybe Obama's staff, the Democrat media, members on the USMB and the typical butt kissing parrots just can't do Google searches.

It does help explain this epic brain farting..:lol:



https://www.google.com/search?q=Rep...:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb

This is the sketch of a plan that was savaged by critics

If this is their plan, why aren't Republicans pushing it? If they want to repeal Obamacare, where is their timeline to implement the Republican plan? Where is their funding information? How will they cover all the people they kick off insurance and how long will it take?

:popcorn:
 
You're posting a google search? :eusa_eh: come on lumpy 1. I thought you were a conservative boot-strapper type?

So you do know how to do "Google" searches and check links for information, my question, are you a parrot?
 
3 pages in and Repubs only solution is no solution and/or why should we offer an alternative

Again, moron

Reduce regulations to allow ANY group to negotiate group rates (groups of businesses, clubs, groups of people, HOA's, chess clubs, etc etc etc)
Reduce regulations to open up the marketplace across the board and across state lines
Make SIMPLE law that states that all citizens must be able to purchase a healtcare or health insurance plan regardless of pre-existing conditions
Enact tort reform to reduce lawsuits
Reduce regulations to allow individual practices or groups of practices to offer preventative care at a monthly subscription cost, leaving the catastrophic care to insurance or to health savings accounts
Make a SIMPLE law requiring all medical providers to publish a price list for good and services so that costs are not hidden behind some 'all inclusive' insurance plan

It is not government's duty or job to be your nanny, your insurance provider, your healthcare provider, the one that funnels forced 'customers' to approved businesses who pay the government off, r anything of the sort

Don't type it....Put it in a bill!


Actually after looking at it its just the same ol shit that's been rejected just reheated with gravy
 
I just did a google search on this topic "Republican Healthcare Plan" and WoW.. look what I found.

Maybe Obama's staff, the Democrat media, members on the USMB and the typical butt kissing parrots just can't do Google searches.

It does help explain this epic brain farting..:lol:



https://www.google.com/search?q=Rep...:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb

This is the sketch of a plan that was savaged by critics

If this is their plan, why aren't Republicans pushing it? If they want to repeal Obamacare, where is their timeline to implement the Republican plan? Where is their funding information? How will they cover all the people they kick off insurance and how long will it take?

Maybe you should do a little research..Try Google..you seem to have a lot of misinformation and questions..just sayin..

Oh... and your common sense is suspect.
 
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3 pages in and Repubs only solution is no solution and/or why should we offer an alternative

Again, moron

Reduce regulations to allow ANY group to negotiate group rates (groups of businesses, clubs, groups of people, HOA's, chess clubs, etc etc etc)
Reduce regulations to open up the marketplace across the board and across state lines
Make SIMPLE law that states that all citizens must be able to purchase a healtcare or health insurance plan regardless of pre-existing conditions
Enact tort reform to reduce lawsuits
Reduce regulations to allow individual practices or groups of practices to offer preventative care at a monthly subscription cost, leaving the catastrophic care to insurance or to health savings accounts
Make a SIMPLE law requiring all medical providers to publish a price list for good and services so that costs are not hidden behind some 'all inclusive' insurance plan

It is not government's duty or job to be your nanny, your insurance provider, your healthcare provider, the one that funnels forced 'customers' to approved businesses who pay the government off, r anything of the sort

Don't type it....Put it in a bill!


Actually after looking at it its just the same ol shit that's been rejected just reheated with gravy

Exactly

Fact is, Republicans will not stand behind any bill that has healthcare in it

It is a third rail with Conservatives
 
Challenge to Republicans

Offer up a non-government alternative to Obamacare

Reduce regulations to allow ANY group to negotiate group rates (groups of businesses, clubs, groups of people, HOA's, chess clubs, etc etc etc)
Reduce regulations to open up the marketplace across the board and across state lines
Make SIMPLE law that states that all citizens must be able to purchase a healtcare or health insurance plan regardless of pre-existing conditions
Enact tort reform to reduce lawsuits
Reduce regulations to allow individual practices or groups of practices to offer preventative care at a monthly subscription cost, leaving the catastrophic care to insurance or to health savings accounts
Make a SIMPLE law requiring all medical providers to publish a price list for good and services so that costs are not hidden behind some 'all inclusive' insurance plan

Fixed...

It is not up to government to create the marketplace, offer the service at a discount to it's chosen few, mandate purchase of a plan that only they qualify, or be in the business of healthcare at all

Not bad and duplicates much of what is in Obamacare.Why don't Republicans have a plan?

Simple question Republicans: Why don't you push a solution for universal healthcare coverage?
Simple answer: Because Republicans do not want Americans to have universal healthcare coverage

Um, I dont know what version of Obamacare you have, but NONE of that is in Obamacare. The very opposite.
Where are the price lists for procedures so consumers can shop? Nowhere
Where is the tort reform? Nowhere.

The GOP has offered many plans over the last several years. The Dem response always is, Well it doesn't cover 100% of the people out there so it's no good.
So the Dems conceive a plan that throws millions off of perfectly good plans and makes them the newly uninsured.
Thanks, Barack!
 
Again, moron

Reduce regulations to allow ANY group to negotiate group rates (groups of businesses, clubs, groups of people, HOA's, chess clubs, etc etc etc)
Reduce regulations to open up the marketplace across the board and across state lines
Make SIMPLE law that states that all citizens must be able to purchase a healtcare or health insurance plan regardless of pre-existing conditions
Enact tort reform to reduce lawsuits
Reduce regulations to allow individual practices or groups of practices to offer preventative care at a monthly subscription cost, leaving the catastrophic care to insurance or to health savings accounts
Make a SIMPLE law requiring all medical providers to publish a price list for good and services so that costs are not hidden behind some 'all inclusive' insurance plan

It is not government's duty or job to be your nanny, your insurance provider, your healthcare provider, the one that funnels forced 'customers' to approved businesses who pay the government off, r anything of the sort

Don't type it....Put it in a bill!


Actually after looking at it its just the same ol shit that's been rejected just reheated with gravy

Exactly

Fact is, Republicans will not stand behind any bill that has healthcare in it

It is a third rail with Conservatives

Can you imagine the amount of links necessary to prove that statement...sheesh

I hope it wouldn't include a link to what Obama or his prophylactic media said, that would just be silly..:lol:
 

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