Do ‘Independents’ of today tend to ‘lean’ left / Democrat? If so, why do they?

[Burgermeister]

Generally, independents lack first principles. They think it is a virtue to have conflicting positions.

 

[surada]

There were "tag alongs" that saw profit for sure, but the primary motivation to do this was to


SECURE THE SUB AS A GOP VOTER and CHASE OUT LIBERTARIAN FISCAL CONSERVATIVES

I left the GOP in 2004 after the treasonous Zionist bastards socialized senior drugs doing shit like this....

Inquiry Confirms Top Medicare Official Threatened Actuary Over Cost of Drug Benefits (Published 2004)

Health and Human Services Department internal investigation confirms that then-Admr Thomas A Scully threatened to fire Medicare chief actuary Richard S Foster if he told Congress that drug benefit legislation would likely cost up to $600 billion over ten years, far more than White House figure...

www.nytimes.com

An internal investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services confirms that the top Medicare official threatened to fire the program's chief actuary if he told Congress that drug benefits would probably cost much more than the White House acknowledged.

A report on the investigation, issued Tuesday, says the administrator of Medicare, Thomas A. Scully, issued the threat to Richard S. Foster while lawmakers were considering huge changes in the program last year. As a result, Mr. Foster's cost estimate did not become known until after the legislation was enacted.

But neither the threat nor the withholding of information violated any criminal law, the report said. It accepted the Justice Department's view that Mr. Scully had ''the final authority to determine the flow of information to Congress.'' Moreover, it said, the actuary ''had no authority to disclose information independently to Congress.''

Mr. Scully, who resigned in December, in part to become a lobbyist for health care companies, had denied threatening Mr. Foster but had acknowledged having told him to withhold the information from Congress.

Profit??? Everyone knows the oil business hates a warzone zone.

The warzone area's hate the idea that the U.S. can just come in and take their oil.

Lol you don't know anything about the oil business. They'd drop thermite into every well and gasoline would be $400 a barrel.

Was it a “blunder”?
Didn’t we kill a Kuwait invading genocidal dictator responsible for a million murders? Didn’t we liberate millions?

Papa Bush was smarter. He shooed Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. He didn't invade a country already crippled by 2 decades of war and sanctions.

 

[surada]

Generally, independents lack first principles. They think it is a virtue to have conflicting positions.

Lolol bullshit.

 

[pknopp]

Profit??? Everyone knows the oil business hates a warzone zone.

Lol you don't know anything about the oil business. They'd drop thermite into every well and gasoline would be $400 a barrel.

The US military can't operate an oil field.

More stupidity. You see why education matters?

Odd, I thought the argument was we had enough here to be self sustaining.

A new rocket attack has reportedly taken place against an American military base at the Conoco gas fields in eastern Syria,

Fresh Missile Attack On US Base At Syria's Conoco Gas Fields | ZeroHedge

 

[Burgermeister]

Lolol bullshit.

Tell us more about "warzone zones". LOL

 

[BrokeLoser]

The reason independents lean left or moderate is education.

I was a Republican for 35 years until Dubya invaded Iraq. That blunder was caused by a lack of education and repercussions continue.

More stupidity. You see why education matters?

Hahaha….we know what Leftist “education” looks like.

 

[EMH]

Papa Bush was smarter. He shooed Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. He didn't invade a country already crippled by 2 decades of war and sanctions.

HW and Schwarzkopf both told W not to invade.

W had no idea what he was doing. W had no understanding - ZERO - about Sunnis, Shias, and Kurds, why help referring to "The Iraqi People."

W was just a face and a last name. Rove was calling the shots. Was in the TX Gov office too...

When the late Robert Novak went to the WH to try to talk W into following the wonderful fiscal conservatism of the Gingrich Congress, Novak met... with Rove, not W....


because W was too dumb to even debate the issue. That was when Novak realized America was in big trouble, and even more so for "conservatism" which he feared for on Crossfire after that visit.

 

[surada]

Odd, I thought the argument was we had enough here to be self sustaining.

A new rocket attack has reportedly taken place against an American military base at the Conoco gas fields in eastern Syria,

Fresh Missile Attack On US Base At Syria's Conoco Gas Fields | ZeroHedge

Syria has very little oil and gas and it's the poorest quality in the world. Is zerohedge making a thing of it?

Meanwhile, Turkey has a huge new billion barrel oil discovery onshore.

 

[surada]

Hahaha….we know what Leftist “education” looks like.

Are you confused about basic biology? Don't you know what a woman is?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Papa Bush was smarter. He shooed Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. He didn't invade a country already crippled by 2 decades of war and sanctions.

“Smarter” huh?
Did he “shoo” him back home to continue murdering his people?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Are you confused about basic biology? Don't you know what a woman is?

Nah, just showing you that education Lib style is really just disturbed ignorance.

 

[yidnar]

The difference being the definition I posted was real. You just made up some silly shit-------as usual.

 

[yidnar]

The reason independents lean left or moderate is education.

left leaning curriculum

 

[JustAGuy1]

Yes. Operation Mass Appeal in the UK was started in 1998 and the PNAC tried to suck Clinton in with their letter in1998. Clinton didn't bite.

For anyone who knows the Middle East and the oil business the invasion of Iraq was a stupid blunder.

Not everyone is slave to the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism.

The fallout from the invasion of Iraq continues. Invading Afghanistan for ENRON was just as stupid.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

 

[surada]

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Are you interested in queer studies? I'm not.

 

[surada]

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

Meaning what?

 

[yidnar]

Are you interested in queer studies? I'm not.

apparently your so called educated dembots are .

 

[pknopp]

Syria has very little oil and gas and it's the poorest quality in the world. Is zerohedge making a thing of it?

Meanwhile, Turkey has a huge new billion barrel oil discovery onshore.

Time for a full scale war in Turkey.

 

[surada]

apparently your so called educated dembots are .

Remember the hysteria years ago over satanism in day care? We've seen this crap before.

 

[BULLDOG]

Time for a full scale war in Turkey.

careful what you wish for