Do Federal/State/Local Governments Create Jobs?
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Accountability is offensive to you, you make that clear. Yes, you hate the people who create jobs, which is overwhelmingly the 1%, you keep mentioning that, Karl.
If I take a pail of water out of a pool, then take a cup full of the pail and put that cup in the pool, no water was ever added to the pool, you only reduced the amount you removed. The only way to create jobs is to create economic value.
I actually am an MBA and I spent my career in financial services and on Wall Street. I work in finance for a fortune 10 company now and I also own a seven figure business. In making up shit and claiming to be an MBA, you took the risk and lost, you ran into someone who actually is what you pretend to be and knows you're lying your ass off.
Seriously, you have said nothing demonstrating any grasp at all in any way regarding creation of economic value and grasping that is our economy. If you are an MBA and forgot what you learned, take your head out of the Communist fog in your brain and discuss the subject.
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Lakhota
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Are you saying that government employees do NOT create "economic value" to the economy? Are their efforts meaningless and/or counterproductive? Are their taxes paid also meaningless? Do their labor and paychecks just evaporate? Actually, public sector employees have a very positive ripple effect on the private sector - hence, the overall economy. You fail to grasp even the basics of macro/micro economics.
Government jobs vs. private jobs: Which help the economy more? - PolitiFact
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LOL, liberals trying to follow logic is hillarious. I said most jobs are created by the 1%, that makes no such statement that being in the 1% creates jobs. Though it's hard not to do so since we have to do something with our money, invest it, save it, spend it, and those all create jobs.
True, but no point regarding the discussion. I said we "create" jobs, I did not say we "give" them. Moochers like you seldom stick, but there are a lot of good people out there who are willing to actually work for their money.
The job is created by those of us who have ideas and vision and invest and risk. Labor doesn't decide what to do, we create the job, the responsibilities, train them and they either do or don't do it. To say they created the wealth is to say the ox plowed the field. While it's true, the Ox would not have plowed the field but for us, and there are way, way more of you out there than me. The ox is lucky. He works, he gets fed and cared for. Like you, a group of oxen without me would starve and die. But the ox didn't create that circumstance, like you it is incapable.
So why did you even claim to be an MBA when you know nothing about the subject? Bizarre.
Economic value is created when you take various inputs and sell them collectively for more than they cost individually. A dishwasher company buys steel, electrical components, etc. They hire engineers, factory workers, and create dishwashers. You take the cost of what they sold it for, subtract what it cost them to make it, and that that is what the economic value created is. Dude, you cannot possibly be an MBA from any business school in the country if you don't know that. It's like a lawyer not knowing what a judge is. It's impossible.
And that you don't create economic value does not mean what you do is "meaningless." Creation of economic value refers to a specific thing. Like all the other Marxist liberals, you think value means you like it. No, I am talking about "economic value." Economic value is what you sold the product for less what you spent do create it. That is what it means. Again, it doesn't mean you like or "value" it.
Government's role in creating infrastructure is that the people have ceded the power to acquire land "for public use" and tax the economy for to build things like roads and bridges for the public use. Those things are like I pointed out for my business. I have to have heat, the Internet, computers, phones, ... As long as it's a cost effective purchase, it enables my business to operate. But it doesn't create economic value. Buying phones does not generate revenue.
Seriously, this is like explaining to someone who claims to be a fisherman they need to put the hook in the water. This is the fundamental principle that business and economics is based on. I'd find another lie rather than that you're an MBA.
What I am saying is vanilla economics. What you are saying is vanilla Marxism.
Lakhota
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Are you saying that government employees do NOT create "economic value" (EV) to the economy? Are their efforts meaningless and/or counterproductive? Are their taxes paid also meaningless? Do their labor and paychecks just evaporate? Actually, public sector employees have a very positive ripple effect on the private sector - hence, the overall economy. You fail to grasp even the basics of macro/micro economics. Remember: Money must circulate!
Government jobs vs. private jobs: Which help the economy more? - PolitiFact
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I posted the link, dumbass.
I just addressed exactly that question. Post #408. I replied to you, did you not see it?
Lakhota
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No, you didn't! Answer it sentence by sentence. Also remember that this thread is about "public job creation"...
Are you saying that government employees do NOT create "economic value" (EV) to the economy? Are their efforts meaningless and/or counterproductive? Are their taxes paid also meaningless? Do their labor and paychecks just evaporate? Actually, public sector employees have a very positive ripple effect on the private sector - hence, the overall economy. You fail to grasp even the basics of macro/micro economics. Remember: Money must circulate!
Government jobs vs. private jobs: Which help the economy more? - PolitiFact
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The feeling is mutual, retard.
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The only thing your link proves is that, aside from being an oxymoron, PolitiFact is a government propaganda organ.
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Wow. So if the government hires someone for 60k a year his taxes are going to help pay his wages? LOL. Yes they buy houses, food, motorcycles, etc. but the point is that their entire salary, bennies, etc. is payed for by the private sector!
“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.” Ronald Reagan
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It would improve due to competition and accountability. What would happen to the economy if the public sector took over all of the private sector?
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