Do Democrats really not see their party has moved way too far to the left?

All costs are ultimately wages paid to someone for goods and services.
So what the free market drives prices down as people wont just pay any price and competition has a downward pressure on prices. So your point is nonsense. The highest living costs are in democrat states with the highest taxes, regulations, and renewable energy. That forces everything up. The most expensive state is CA a one party rule by democrats. NY is next
 
Not my kids, although my son was married to one. She knew how to access every government handout.
Yes. You old folks have bled us dry. You and your lazy ass kids. Here is a reference you will get: I would vote today for a Logan’s Run solution.
 
The MAGA wing of the GOP has dragged the party so far to the Right they can no longer even see the Center.

Some of the most popular Democratic policies in the U.S. include expanding background checks on gun sales, allowing Medicare to negotiate prescription drug prices, and raising the minimum wage. Additional highly supported platform points involve legalizing paths to citizenship for long-term undocumented immigrants and requiring equal pay for equal work. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
The popularity of specific Democratic policies extends to both sides of the aisle:
  • Healthcare & Safety Net: A large majority of Americans—including majorities of both Democrats and Republicans—favor letting Medicare negotiate prescription drug prices. Policies to protect and fund Social Security and Medicare also consistently poll with broad bipartisan support. [1, 2, 3, 5]
  • Gun Control: Universal background checks for all gun purchases and closing loopholes on private sales enjoy strong bipartisan approval across the general public. [1, 2]
  • Labor & Economy: Raising the federal minimum wage remains broadly popular, with significant cross-party support for wage increases tied to the cost of living. [1, 2]
  • Education: Increasing federal spending on public school student services, free school lunches for low-income students, and expanding funding for vocational and trade schools are highly rated policies, as tracked by YouGov Polling. [1]
  • Immigration: A pathway to citizenship or legal status for long-term immigrants who have been in the country for years and have no criminal record is preferred by roughly two-thirds of Americans over mass deportations. [1]
" Immigration: A pathway to citizenship or legal status for long-term immigrants who have been in the country for years and have no criminal record is preferred by roughly two-thirds of Americans over mass deportations. "

There already is such;

However, illegal entry is already a crime, so the Federal CIS won't work until the crime of illegal entry is adjusted.
Unfortunately, too many in the USA seem to not understand that illegal is another term for crime.
illegal = not legal = criminal :rolleyes:
 
So what the free market drives prices down as people wont just pay any price and competition has a downward pressure on prices. So your point is nonsense. The highest living costs are in democrat states with the highest taxes, regulations, and renewable energy. That forces everything up. The most expensive state is CA a one party rule by democrats. NY is next
Cheap prices haven't reduced debt. In fact, consumer debt is increasing. Of course, the rat in the woodpile is consumer credit.

Taxes raised are paid out in wages, or paid to bond holders.
 
Yes. You old folks have bled us dry. You and your lazy ass kids. Here is a reference you will get: I would vote today for a Logan’s Run solution.
I had to look that one up. Certain people were killed at age 30, leaving others to grow old.

What you and other youngsters don't understand is that while we are alive we own the things we are indebted with. We own the streets we are wearing out with our vehicles. Why do you think we shouldn't have to pay for their upkeep? We have inherited all the things that we are paying for. Why do you think they should be free?
 
I had to look that one up. Certain people were killed at age 30, leaving others to grow old.

What you and other youngsters don't understand is that while we are alive we own the things we are indebted with. We own the streets we are wearing out with our vehicles. Why do you think we shouldn't have to pay for their upkeep? We have inherited all the things that we are paying for. Why do you think they should be free?
Youre defending $40T in debt? No wonder we are broke. It didn’t go to infrastructure:

Source of US debt Normalized estimate
Inherited debt before the modern deficit era$5.7T
Tax cuts / under-taxation since 2001$10.0T
Wars / defense surge / veterans / war interest$6.5T
COVID response$5.5T
Great Recession response and lost revenue$2.5T
Aging / healthcare / retirement structural gap$4.0T
Remaining interest and other recurring deficits$5.8T
Total~$40T
 
I agree, but don't raise taxes to do it. Instead cut back on student loans so kids will have to pay more of their own freight.

When I was a kid few expected to go to college, so few saved any money. Today most expect to go to college (or maybe trade school) so there is no excuse for not saving for it.
And let them eat cake!
 
Self-identified ideology among Democrats: In 1994, 25% of Democrats called themselves liberal (48% moderate). By 2022-2025, this rose to 54-59% liberal, with moderates declining sharply (Gallup and Pew data).


• Voter ideology scores: American National Election Studies (ANES) show Democratic voters’ average self-placement shifted markedly left from 2012-2020 (mean from ~3.3-3.7 toward more liberal scores), widening the partisan gap, with both white and nonwhite Democrats moving left.


• Congressional voting records (DW-Nominate): House Democrats have become more liberal on average since the 1970s (e.g., median shifting from around -0.31 to -0.38 or further), though Republican rightward movement has been steeper in some analyses. Overall polarization has increased with reduced overlap.


• Platform and policy evolution: The 1990s Clinton-era platform emphasized centrism, welfare reform (“end welfare as we know it”), tough-on-crime policies, and market-friendly economics. Later platforms and priorities shifted toward expansive social spending, student debt relief, wealth redistribution emphasis, more progressive taxation, identity-focused equity policies, and cultural liberalism (e.g., stronger stances on abortion, immigration, policing).


• Broader trends: Pew and other analyses note Democrats moving left on social issues and safety net expansion since the 1990s, with rising influence of progressive factions (e.g., Squad, Sanders wing) and declining moderate influence within the party. Public perception and some electoral analyses link this to losses among working-class and moderate voters.

• Transgender participation in women’s sports: Many Democratic leaders and platforms have supported or defended policies allowing biological males to compete in women’s categories, despite declining public support (e.g., Gallup shows Democratic backing for transgender athletes in gender-identity teams dropping from 55% in 2021 to 45% in 2025, with overall U.S. opposition at ~69%). Critics argue this prioritizes ideology over biological fairness and women’s opportunities.


• Patriotism and national symbols: Declining national pride among Democrats (Gallup: only 36% “extremely/very proud” to be American in 2025, down sharply in recent years) and high-profile incidents like NFL anthem protests (often defended by Democratic figures/politicians), reduced emphasis on flag respect in some progressive circles, and platform shifts (e.g., 2024 platform opening with land acknowledgments vs. earlier patriotic framing). Analyses note a patriotism gap hurting the party with moderates.


• “Defund the Police” movement: Prominent support from progressive Democrats and figures (e.g., some Squad members, initial endorsements or praise from officials like Kamala Harris in 2020) during 2020 protests, leading to budget cuts or reallocations in several Democratic-led cities. Though later walked back by many, it contributed to perceptions of reduced support for law enforcement amid rising crime concerns in some areas.


• Emphasis on identity politics and DEI: Greater focus on race/gender equity frameworks (e.g., critical race theory elements in education, expansive DEI mandates in institutions/government), gender ideology in schools/curricula, and group-specific appeals over class/economic populism. Post-election analyses link this to alienation of working-class and male voters.


• Immigration and border policies: Shift toward more permissive stances (e.g., opposition to stricter enforcement, sanctuary policies, resistance to border wall expansions), with progressive wings pushing decriminalization or reduced ICE funding—contrasting earlier bipartisan efforts and contributing to voter backlash on security.
Trump is selling us out and you go on about the Democratic party?

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So much for moving "too far to the left". :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The far bigger issue is that Trump and the MAGA Cuck Party are out of their ******* minds....which is why they are going to lose badly in November.
You have a good percentage of stupid people in your party who are clamoring for dictatorial systems and do not realize what it is. If Republicans have them, at least they want less control of the population.
 
Self-identified ideology among Democrats: In 1994, 25% of Democrats called themselves liberal (48% moderate). By 2022-2025, this rose to 54-59% liberal, with moderates declining sharply (Gallup and Pew data).


• Voter ideology scores: American National Election Studies (ANES) show Democratic voters’ average self-placement shifted markedly left from 2012-2020 (mean from ~3.3-3.7 toward more liberal scores), widening the partisan gap, with both white and nonwhite Democrats moving left.


• Congressional voting records (DW-Nominate): House Democrats have become more liberal on average since the 1970s (e.g., median shifting from around -0.31 to -0.38 or further), though Republican rightward movement has been steeper in some analyses. Overall polarization has increased with reduced overlap.


• Platform and policy evolution: The 1990s Clinton-era platform emphasized centrism, welfare reform (“end welfare as we know it”), tough-on-crime policies, and market-friendly economics. Later platforms and priorities shifted toward expansive social spending, student debt relief, wealth redistribution emphasis, more progressive taxation, identity-focused equity policies, and cultural liberalism (e.g., stronger stances on abortion, immigration, policing).


• Broader trends: Pew and other analyses note Democrats moving left on social issues and safety net expansion since the 1990s, with rising influence of progressive factions (e.g., Squad, Sanders wing) and declining moderate influence within the party. Public perception and some electoral analyses link this to losses among working-class and moderate voters.

• Transgender participation in women’s sports: Many Democratic leaders and platforms have supported or defended policies allowing biological males to compete in women’s categories, despite declining public support (e.g., Gallup shows Democratic backing for transgender athletes in gender-identity teams dropping from 55% in 2021 to 45% in 2025, with overall U.S. opposition at ~69%). Critics argue this prioritizes ideology over biological fairness and women’s opportunities.


• Patriotism and national symbols: Declining national pride among Democrats (Gallup: only 36% “extremely/very proud” to be American in 2025, down sharply in recent years) and high-profile incidents like NFL anthem protests (often defended by Democratic figures/politicians), reduced emphasis on flag respect in some progressive circles, and platform shifts (e.g., 2024 platform opening with land acknowledgments vs. earlier patriotic framing). Analyses note a patriotism gap hurting the party with moderates.


• “Defund the Police” movement: Prominent support from progressive Democrats and figures (e.g., some Squad members, initial endorsements or praise from officials like Kamala Harris in 2020) during 2020 protests, leading to budget cuts or reallocations in several Democratic-led cities. Though later walked back by many, it contributed to perceptions of reduced support for law enforcement amid rising crime concerns in some areas.


• Emphasis on identity politics and DEI: Greater focus on race/gender equity frameworks (e.g., critical race theory elements in education, expansive DEI mandates in institutions/government), gender ideology in schools/curricula, and group-specific appeals over class/economic populism. Post-election analyses link this to alienation of working-class and male voters.


• Immigration and border policies: Shift toward more permissive stances (e.g., opposition to stricter enforcement, sanctuary policies, resistance to border wall expansions), with progressive wings pushing decriminalization or reduced ICE funding—contrasting earlier bipartisan efforts and contributing to voter backlash on security.
Ideology?

Do you even know wtf you are attempting to talk about?
 
So if wages were frozen, living costs would also be frozen? Which planet did you say you're on?
Sure, if prices were frozen as well. Nixon tried that, didn't work. Best to let the market sort it out.
 
You have a good percentage of stupid people in your party who are clamoring for dictatorial systems and do not realize what it is. If Republicans have them, at least they want less control of the population.
The population is always out of control. Government can't keep up with the messes the people make.
 
15th post
" Immigration: A pathway to citizenship or legal status for long-term immigrants who have been in the country for years and have no criminal record is preferred by roughly two-thirds of Americans over mass deportations. "

There already is such;

However, illegal entry is already a crime, so the Federal CIS won't work until the crime of illegal entry is adjusted.
Unfortunately, too many in the USA seem to not understand that illegal is another term for crime.
illegal = not legal = criminal :rolleyes:
It is you who don't understand. Speeding is not legal but is generally classified as a traffic infraction rather than a criminal offense.
 
You have a good percentage of stupid people in your party who are clamoring for dictatorial systems and do not realize what it is. If Republicans have them, at least they want less control of the population.
Jan 6.....nothing more needs to be said.

MAGA nut jobs such as you and Trump have cornered the market on fascism.
 

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