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Reload this Page Do certain white collar criminals do more harm to society than the average murderer does?
Think about it. Who harms society most?
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They do harm to society in different ways. One's cost has immeasurable impact on a specific, concentrated context (murder), while the other's cost are diffused across entire society (corporate crime). Both are bad.
They do harm to society in different ways. One's cost has immeasurable impact on a specific, concentrated context (murder), while the other's cost are diffused across entire society (corporate crime). Both are bad.
You did not answer the quantitative question of harm to society. Do you consider both to be equal in the harm they cause to society?
They do harm to society in different ways. One's cost has immeasurable impact on a specific, concentrated context (murder), while the other's cost are diffused across entire society (corporate crime). Both are bad.
You did not answer the quantitative question of harm to society. Do you consider both to be equal in the harm they cause to society?
Obviously, as phrased, white collar crime causes greater harm to society than murder, since white collar crimes (presumably) affect more members of society than does murder.
There are white collar crimes that are as individually selective as murder, by the way, such as identity theft. I think, however, the OP is referencing more the type of big scale white collar crimes that affect huge numbers of people.
You did not answer the quantitative question of harm to society. Do you consider both to be equal in the harm they cause to society?
Obviously, as phrased, white collar crime causes greater harm to society than murder, since white collar crimes (presumably) affect more members of society than does murder.
There are white collar crimes that are as individually selective as murder, by the way, such as identity theft. I think, however, the OP is referencing more the type of big scale white collar crimes that affect huge numbers of people.
Obviously, as phrased, white collar crime causes greater harm to society than murder, since white collar crimes (presumably) affect more members of society than does murder.
There are white collar crimes that are as individually selective as murder, by the way, such as identity theft. I think, however, the OP is referencing more the type of big scale white collar crimes that affect huge numbers of people.
Not so fast, Mojambo . . . there is still the little matter of the substantive nature of the crime involved and the degree of "harm" that is caused by its commission.
First off, murder is classified by the law as being a crime that is malum in se (bad in and of itself) while white collar crimes are classified as being crimes that are malum prohibitum (bad because society says so, rather than being inherently evil). To put it another way: a malum in se offense is "naturally evil as adjudged by the sense of a civilized community," whereas a malum prohibitum offense is wrong only because a statute makes it so.
It is obvious that murder is "bad." It is not so obvious that selling bogus securities or bundling bad mortgages are "bad" things to do.
One must ask, who has experienced more "harm" - the young widow with six children whose husband has been gunned down by gang crossfire, or a group of investors who lose money due to a white collar crime?
While everything is relative, I would submit that substantially more harm has come to the young widow than to any of the individual investors.
The question as posed in the OP is subject to a logical fallacy.
Think about it. Who harms society most?
HARD TO DO MORE HARM TO A PERSON THAN TAKING THEIR LIFE.
However, I would be perfectly willing to import caners from Singapore to publically punish dishonest corporate CEO's and indentity thieves among others. 100 hard laid strokes (plus restitution) would be about right for anyone involved in a fraudulent mortgage app for example.
Reload this Page Do certain white collar criminals do more harm to society than the average murderer does?
Think about it. Who harms society most?
To break it down into much simpler terms: if a white-collar criminal embezzled a million dollars and it affected the life savings of a thousand people, those thousand people are still alive. Life just became tougher for them, but it's a matter of finding a way to overcome the hardship.
A murderer takes away a life, and that life can never be replaced. It affects the victim's immediate family, friends, coworkers and others (e.g. witnesses, bystanders, etc.). Add to it if it was a parent and how that affects the child or a child and how that affects the parent and siblings.
I understand the "point" you are making, but....
I would rather be ripped off than murdered.
I would rather have my loved ones ripped off than murdered.
I'm guessing most people would rather have 100000 people ripped off than have just 1 of their loved ones murdered.
Does "white collar crime" effect more people? Sure. But I'm not quite sure I understand why we have to quantify the two as a "Crime A is worse than Crime B" kind of way.
Both are terrible. Both can be prosecuted appropriately...
So whats the big deal?
congress has done more damage than any white collar criminal.....
HARD TO DO MORE HARM TO A PERSON THAN TAKING THEIR LIFE.
However, I would be perfectly willing to import caners from Singapore to publically punish dishonest corporate CEO's and indentity thieves among others. 100 hard laid strokes (plus restitution) would be about right for anyone involved in a fraudulent mortgage app for example.
Reload this Page Do certain white collar criminals do more harm to society than the average murderer does?
Think about it. Who harms society most?
1) There is no doubt. Murderers harm society many times more than white collar crime.
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2) Obviously murders are far greater crimes than fraud.
3) Your personal delusion that white collar crime is more harmful on society is based on your personal jealousy of rich and wealthy citizen-slaves, and a hate of what you see as success.