Judges and Unions

[sealybobo]

Utility Workers Union of America- Brotherhood of Utility Workers. I’m part of a six local group which negotiates together with the. Company that employs us. We negotiate as one unit even though we’re six separate locals. It’s been this way for about 60 years now without any significant labor issues. Only one small walkout back in the mid 1990s, which lasted less than 48 hours. I’ve been officially or unofficially the Steward for my department since it was created in 2009.

I am both a fiscal and social Conservative. Always have been and always will be.

I, actually I’m in a pretty good union. One which understands that nobody wins when the workers aren’t working. I work for a large gas & electric utility company in Bee England; on the electric side of the house in a support role for Design, Operations and Distribution Control Center groups.

In the late 1960s and early 1970s, the six electric union locals (all UWUA) that were associated with this company banded together to create what we call the BUW (Brotherhood of Utility Workers) to negotiate with the company as one unit, to ensure that workers across the entire geographical area were treated equally by the company. They also realized that they only made out better when the company made out better, and that nobody ever wins when the workers aren’t working. There was one strike in the early 1980s and a 48 hour lockout in the late 1990s. Other than that there have been no work stoppages in our bargaining unit… because the union and the company work together rather than fighting over scraps.

Are you in England? You have to understand a English Conservative is no where near as weird as an American conservative.

You guys don't deny global warming is real. You aren't gun nuts and you don't think England should do away with your socialized medicine.

I'd be a lot more open to companies being able to fire whoever they want whenever they want if that person had healthcare while they were unemployed.

 

[Anathema]

I'm just saying if someone in the class has two dads, don't make a big deal out of it. Don't make fun of that kid because then your kids going to do it.

How/why would the parents of one student even know that another student has two monies or two daddies? Thats not something that should be discussed in a classroom.

 

[marvin martian]

Are you in England? You have to understand a English Conservative is no where near as weird as an American conservative.

You guys don't deny global warming is real. You aren't gun nuts and you don't think England should do away with your socialized medicine.

I'd be a lot more open to companies being able to fire whoever they want whenever they want if that person had healthcare while they were unemployed.

LOL

This is who's calling conservatives weird:

 

[sealybobo]

How/why would the parents of one student even know that another student has two monies or two daddies? Thats not something that should be discussed in a classroom.

They drop them off at school or show up to the play. Or invite everyone over for their kids birthday party.

 

[Anathema]

Are you in England? You have to understand a English Conservative is no where near as weird as an American conservative.

You guys don't deny global warming is real. You aren't gun nuts and you don't think England should do away with your socialized medicine.

I'd be a lot more open to companies being able to fire whoever they want whenever they want if that person had healthcare while they were unemployed.

No. I’m in Central/Western Massachusetts. I’ve lived in New England (CT, RI & MA) my entire life.

Why should a company be willing to hang onto an employee who can’t or doesn’t do their work simply because they’ve been there for 20+ years?

In my department, while I was Union Steward we had just such a situation. A guy with 5 years left to retirement who felt he could just coast. Refused to do any more work than absolutely necessary. When the company told him he had to come up to the department average workload he gave up 25% of his pension to leave 4 years early rather than do anything more than he felt was necessary.

 

[Frankenstein]

These are the two reasons you should be voting for Kamala if you are middle class or socially liberal. We all know what kind of judges Bush and Trump appoint. Heritage Foundation Judges. Project 2025. Clarence Thomas taking money from billionaires. Religious nuts like Alito. And their wives are even worse! Vergogna! Look it up.

But this is proof Trump is not for the middle class. Because he doesn't understand how important unions are to having a strong middle class. America was great when 35% of our work force was unionized. Today it's 5% and how we doing? But unions fought back and won big last year for the workers. Of course Stellantis laid a bunch of people off but the people who are working are making enough to support their families. We can not be deterred.

And based on Trump's interview with Musk, he was praising Musk for breaking the law when he fired workers for going on strike.

You may not be in a union but unions are more important than you think to how much you make. So support unions. Now Republicans will tell you that those uneducated blue collar workers aren't worth that much. The same workers they're saying they want to help. Suddenly Republicans are pretending to care about blue collar workers wages.

UAW sues Trump, Musk over worker threats in X chat

Donald Trump seemingly endorsed firing striking workers during his interview with Elon Musk

theweek.com

Unions had a place a long time ago, now they promote laziness.

 

[Frankenstein]

Unity is powerful.​

Da comrade

 

[TruthNotBS]

LOL

This is who's calling conservatives weird:

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I agree with the Palestinian cause, but all of this gay stuff can get cringy and out of hand.

 

[Frankenstein]

I agree with the Palestinian cause, but all of this gay stuff can get cringy and out of hand.

Palestinians do not exist

 

[TruthNotBS]

Palestinians do not exist

The land was Palestine for 2000 years, since at least the second century CE. The so-called Palestinians are the people who converted to Christianity and Islam from Judaism, centuries ago. They're the indigenous population of the Levant or the region of the Middle East where the Holy Land/Palestine is located. The idea that 600 thousand European Jews can arrive and take the land away from 1.2 million Palestinians, is let's just say, irresponsible. It's untenable. Even the 54% of the land that the UN gave the Jews, had over 700 thousand Arabs. Can you imagine that? How can you establish a Jewish state, when the majority of your population isn't Jewish? This is the insanity of Zionism.

The US needs to stop arming these people.

 

[Frankenstein]

The land was Palestine for 2000 years, since at least the second century CE. The so-called Palestinians are the people who converted to Christianity and Islam from Judaism, centuries ago. They're the indigenous population of the Levant or the region of the Middle East where the Holy Land/Palestine is located. The idea that 600 thousand European Jews can arrive and take the land away from 1.2 million Palestinians, is let's just say, irresponsible. It's untenable. Even the 54% of the land that the UN gave the Jews, had over 700 thousand Arabs. Can you imagine that? How can you establish a Jewish state, when the majority of your population isn't Jewish? This is the insanity of Zionism.

The US needs to stop arming these people.

Palestinian people do not exist * WorldNetDaily * by Joseph Farah

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Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

That's pretty clear, isn't it? It's even more specific than Golda Meir's statement. It reaffirms what I have written on this subject. And it is hardly the only such statement of its kind. Arafat himself made a very definitive and unequivocal statement along these lines as late as 1993. It demonstrates conclusively that the Palestinian nationhood argument is the real strategic deception – one geared to set up the destruction of Israel.




In fact, on the same day Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993, he explained his actions on Jordan TV. Here's what he said: "Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of

 

[TruthNotBS]

Palestinian people do not exist * WorldNetDaily * by Joseph Farah

... Read more

www.wnd.com

Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:


That's pretty clear, isn't it? It's even more specific than Golda Meir's statement. It reaffirms what I have written on this subject. And it is hardly the only such statement of its kind. Arafat himself made a very definitive and unequivocal statement along these lines as late as 1993. It demonstrates conclusively that the Palestinian nationhood argument is the real strategic deception – one geared to set up the destruction of Israel.




In fact, on the same day Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993, he explained his actions on Jordan TV. Here's what he said: "Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of

The Palestinian State or the State of Palestine in a modern, Western sense, has never existed, before the British Mandate, true. Nonetheless, there were over 500 villages in the 54% of the land that was given to the European Jewish settlers, with a total of 750 thousand Palestinians. You don't have to have a modern state to be a people or consider a land to be yours, or to be a people/nation.

The Jews never had a modern nation-state in the Western sense of the word and yet they were still a specific people and a nation. The Arabs of Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon, are unique from the pure Arabs of the Arabian peninsula, culturally and genetically. They're only "Arabs" because they adopted Islam and Arabic, and certain aspects of Arab culture, but they're unique.

A Palestinian is at the very least as likely to be a descendent of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob than a Jew from Poland or Crown Heights Brooklyn. It's ridiculous to suggest that Jacob here from Long Island, NY:

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Has more of a right to be in the Holy Land than the woman who is pleading with him, not to take her home. That woman is clearly more indigenous to the Holy Land and Middle East than Jacob, the Ashlenazi European who moved to the Jewish colonial state from Long Island.

 

[struth]

The Palestinian State or the State of Palestine in a modern, Western sense, has never existed, before the British Mandate, true. Nonetheless, there were over 500 villages in the 54% of the land that was given to the European Jewish settlers, with a total of 750 thousand Palestinians. You don't have to have a modern state to be a people or consider a land to be yours, or to be a people/nation.

The Jews never had a modern nation-state in the Western sense of the word and yet they were still a specific people and a nation. The Arabs of Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon, are unique from the pure Arabs of the Arabian peninsula, culturally and genetically. They're only "Arabs" because they adopted Islam and Arabic, and certain aspects of Arab culture, but they're unique.

A Palestinian is at the very least as likely to be a descendent of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob than a Jew from Poland or Crown Heights Brooklyn. It's ridiculous to suggest that Jacob here from Long Island, NY:

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Has more of a right to be in the Holy Land than the woman who is pleading with him, not to take her home. That woman is clearly more indigenous to the Holy Land and Middle East than Jacob, the Ashlenazi European who moved to the Jewish colonial state from Long Island.

Nothing was given, there was a revolutionary war, over the brit mandate

 

[TruthNotBS]

Nothing was given, there was a revolutionary war, over the brit mandate

The UN received the British Mandate, and declared 54% of Palestine, with 750 thousand Palestinian Arabs, the Jewish State of Israel giving it to 600 thousand European Ashkenazi Jews. The Jewish settler-colonizer went on a rampage:

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[struth]

The UN received the British Mandate, and declared 54% of Palestine, with 750 thousand Palestinian Arabs, the Jewish State of Israel giving it to 600 thousand European Ashkenazi Jews. The Jewish settler-colonizer went on a rampage:

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What the f do you mean the UN? The British Mandate was created decades before rhe UN was created

I feel like you are getting your history from a USSR history book

 

[TruthNotBS]

What the f do you mean the UN? The British Mandate was created decades before rhe UN was created

I feel like you are getting your history from a USSR history book

No dingleberry, the British handed over the mandate to the UN, and then the UN decided what to do with the land. Wake up.

 

[struth]

No dingleberry, the British handed over the mandate to the UN, and then the UN decided what to do with the land. Wake up.

The civil war began in 1936, with Arab up rising in Mand Palistine, which the Brit’s ruled since the end of WW1, it ended in 1948. By then, the UN was created, and brought about a peace agreement, that Arabs soon broke.

 

[TruthNotBS]

The civil war began in 1936, with Arab up rising in Mand Palistine, which the Brit’s ruled since the end of WW1, it ended in 1948. By then, the UN was created, and brought about a peace agreement, that Arabs soon broke.

No civil war started in the late 30s, and there was never a "peace agreement". Why the hell should the indigenous inhabitants of the Holy Land allow Jewish Ashkenazi Jews from Europe to take their land? How do you think the Jews were going to establish a Jewish ethnostate, in a land inhabited mostly by non-Jews? Ethnic cleansing and genocide. That's what they did before the Arab neighboring countries invaded. The land wasn't a land without a people for a people without a land. It was already inhabited by over a million Palestinians, and the number of Jewish settlers was only 600 thousand people. How did these Jews plan to turn the land given to them by the UN, into a "Jewish State"? They did it by terrorizing the non-Jewish inhabitants and forcefully expelling them from their homes and villages.

 

[struth]

No civil war started in the late 30s, and there was never a "peace agreement". Why the hell should the indigenous inhabitants of the Holy Land allow Jewish Ashkenazi Jews from Europe to take their land? How do you think the Jews were going to establish a Jewish ethnostate, in a land inhabited mostly by non-Jews? Ethnic cleansing and genocide. That's what they did before the Arab neighboring countries invaded. The land wasn't a land without a people for a people without a land. It was already inhabited by over a million Palestinians, and the number of Jewish settlers was only 600 thousand people. How did these Jews plan to turn the land given to them by the UN, into a "Jewish State"? They did it by terrorizing the non-Jewish inhabitants and forcefully expelling them from their homes and villages.

Yes yes it did, that’s when the Arabs began their uprising again the Brit’s

 

[Frankenstein]

The Palestinian State or the State of Palestine in a modern, Western sense, has never existed, before the British Mandate, true. Nonetheless, there were over 500 villages in the 54% of the land that was given to the European Jewish settlers, with a total of 750 thousand Palestinians. You don't have to have a modern state to be a people or consider a land to be yours, or to be a people/nation.

The Jews never had a modern nation-state in the Western sense of the word and yet they were still a specific people and a nation. The Arabs of Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon, are unique from the pure Arabs of the Arabian peninsula, culturally and genetically. They're only "Arabs" because they adopted Islam and Arabic, and certain aspects of Arab culture, but they're unique.

A Palestinian is at the very least as likely to be a descendent of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob than a Jew from Poland or Crown Heights Brooklyn. It's ridiculous to suggest that Jacob here from Long Island, NY:

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Has more of a right to be in the Holy Land than the woman who is pleading with him, not to take her home. That woman is clearly more indigenous to the Holy Land and Middle East than Jacob, the Ashlenazi European who moved to the Jewish colonial state from Long Island.

You do not get it, those people are arabs, there is no such thing as a palestinian!
Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
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