Do all you democrats want millions to flood in ??

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I am talking about the invasion from the southern border ??
Is this really what you want ???

You want millions of more illiterate ,peasants to flood in and turn the USA into a different nation

You think you are going to be safe

Discuss ??
LOL of course it’s what they really want.

When are you going to learn that the radical left hate this country? Once you accept that fact, you will see that they always support policies bad for America, and oppose any policy good for America.
Right wingers hate our country more and have no problem turning it into a third world mess simply to have the largest military in the world and still not be able to win expensive foreign wars in less developed nations. We could have upgraded infrastructure and have high speed rail through out the US if we had spent on that, what the right wings prefers to spend on the general warfare and common offense.
 

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What if it is the drug war that is making things worse
The main reason why the drug market exists is corruption, I think. There is a chain of officials, including in law enforcement forces, that profit or just turn a bling eye on this.
It must have a similar effect on less developed nations who should be investing in their own infrastructure instead of the corruption of a drug war they can't win.
 

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I am talking about the invasion from the southern border ??
Is this really what you want ???

You want millions of more illiterate ,peasants to flood in and turn the USA into a different nation

You think you are going to be safe

Discuss ??
I'm not a democrat but yes. I think immigration into the United States should be much easier. If you are a Mexican citizen in good standing then come on in. If you are wanted by a Mexican authority for criminal behavior then stay out. If you are from a country other than Mexico (example: Guatemala) then Mexico needs to deal with your illegal entry into their country.

I'm a big fan of building the US population to 2 billion but we don't want the world's criminals. We want two billion of the strongest and independent people to build our nation to be stronger than India and China. We are a great melting pot. We can handle cultural influences from other people groups.
There is no actual Immigration clause in our federal Constitution to be legal to. We have a naturalization clause. We should have no illegal problem nor any illegal underclass, and all foreign nationals should be known to the general Government and federally identified for civil purposes. Upgrading Ellis Island and building a world class research hospital on it would make it easier for people to visit the US, stay for awhile, and go home, maybe to repeat the process at some later time. We should be making money on foreign nationals in the US while reducing their need to stay here to avoid the hassle of entering the US as it is now. Tourism is the first, second, or third largest employer in twenty-nine States of the Union.
 
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I am talking about the invasion from the southern border ??
Is this really what you want ???

You want millions of more illiterate ,peasants to flood in and turn the USA into a different nation

You think you are going to be safe

Discuss ??
I'm not a democrat but yes. I think immigration into the United States should be much easier. If you are a Mexican citizen in good standing then come on in. If you are wanted by a Mexican authority for criminal behavior then stay out. If you are from a country other than Mexico (example: Guatemala) then Mexico needs to deal with your illegal entry into their country.

I'm a big fan of building the US population to 2 billion but we don't want the world's criminals. We want two billion of the strongest and independent people to build our nation to be stronger than India and China. We are a great melting pot. We can handle cultural influences from other people groups.
There is no actual Immigration clause in our federal Constitution to be legal to. We have a naturalization clause. We should have no illegal problem nor any illegal underclass, and all foreign nationals should be known to the general Government and federally identified for civil purposes. Upgrading Ellis Island and building a world class research hospital on it would make it easier for people to visit the US, stay for awhile, and go home, maybe to repeat the process at some later time. We should be making money on foreign nationals in the US while reducing their need to stay here to avoid the hassle of entering the US as it is now. Tourism is the first, second, or third largest employer in twenty-nine States of the Union.
We have federal laws !! Then according to you - no nations should even have a border
 
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I am talking about the invasion from the southern border ??
Is this really what you want ???

You want millions of more illiterate ,peasants to flood in and turn the USA into a different nation

You think you are going to be safe

Discuss ??
LOL of course it’s what they really want.

When are you going to learn that the radical left hate this country? Once you accept that fact, you will see that they always support policies bad for America, and oppose any policy good for America.
Right wingers hate our country more and have no problem turning it into a third world mess simply to have the largest military in the world and still not be able to win expensive foreign wars in less developed nations. We could have upgraded infrastructure and have high speed rail through out the US if we had spent on that, what the right wings prefers to spend on the general warfare and common offense.
Ok I see ?? You’re a pathetic left wing terrorist
 

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What if it is the drug war that is making things worse
The main reason why the drug market exists is corruption, I think. There is a chain of officials, including in law enforcement forces, that profit or just turn a bling eye on this.
It must have a similar effect on less developed nations who should be investing in their own infrastructure instead of the corruption of a drug war they can't win.
'Less developed' nations might be glad to invest in infrastructure, but some people there who tend to have the power prefer to spend money on more profitable projects. The sale of drugs is one of them.
 

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I am talking about the invasion from the southern border ??
Is this really what you want ???

You want millions of more illiterate ,peasants to flood in and turn the USA into a different nation

You think you are going to be safe

Discuss ??
I'm not a democrat but yes. I think immigration into the United States should be much easier. If you are a Mexican citizen in good standing then come on in. If you are wanted by a Mexican authority for criminal behavior then stay out. If you are from a country other than Mexico (example: Guatemala) then Mexico needs to deal with your illegal entry into their country.

I'm a big fan of building the US population to 2 billion but we don't want the world's criminals. We want two billion of the strongest and independent people to build our nation to be stronger than India and China. We are a great melting pot. We can handle cultural influences from other people groups.
There is no actual Immigration clause in our federal Constitution to be legal to. We have a naturalization clause. We should have no illegal problem nor any illegal underclass, and all foreign nationals should be known to the general Government and federally identified for civil purposes. Upgrading Ellis Island and building a world class research hospital on it would make it easier for people to visit the US, stay for awhile, and go home, maybe to repeat the process at some later time. We should be making money on foreign nationals in the US while reducing their need to stay here to avoid the hassle of entering the US as it is now. Tourism is the first, second, or third largest employer in twenty-nine States of the Union.
We have federal laws !! Then according to you - no nations should even have a border
US jurisdiction is our sovereignty. They are not all ambassadors. Show us the Constitutional clause regarding Immigration that creates an illegal problem and an illegal underclass for right wingers to complain about.
 

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I am talking about the invasion from the southern border ??
Is this really what you want ???

You want millions of more illiterate ,peasants to flood in and turn the USA into a different nation

You think you are going to be safe

Discuss ??
LOL of course it’s what they really want.

When are you going to learn that the radical left hate this country? Once you accept that fact, you will see that they always support policies bad for America, and oppose any policy good for America.
Right wingers hate our country more and have no problem turning it into a third world mess simply to have the largest military in the world and still not be able to win expensive foreign wars in less developed nations. We could have upgraded infrastructure and have high speed rail through out the US if we had spent on that, what the right wings prefers to spend on the general warfare and common offense.
Ok I see ?? You’re a pathetic left wing terrorist
If a right wing false witness bearing practitioner of the abomination of hypocrisy (unto God) says it, it must be the "gospel Truth"? I think not. Job 34:30 applies for moral purposes with a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge.
 

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What if it is the drug war that is making things worse
The main reason why the drug market exists is corruption, I think. There is a chain of officials, including in law enforcement forces, that profit or just turn a bling eye on this.
It must have a similar effect on less developed nations who should be investing in their own infrastructure instead of the corruption of a drug war they can't win.
'Less developed' nations might be glad to invest in infrastructure, but some people there who tend to have the power prefer to spend money on more profitable projects. The sale of drugs is one of them.
It is not their drug war. And, they are more southern than the Confederate South. Why do right wingers only have socialism on a national and international basis instead of the free market Capitalism solutions they allege to espouse in socialism threads?
 

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What if it is the drug war that is making things worse
The main reason why the drug market exists is corruption, I think. There is a chain of officials, including in law enforcement forces, that profit or just turn a bling eye on this.
It must have a similar effect on less developed nations who should be investing in their own infrastructure instead of the corruption of a drug war they can't win.
'Less developed' nations might be glad to invest in infrastructure, but some people there who tend to have the power prefer to spend money on more profitable projects. The sale of drugs is one of them.
It is not their drug war. And, they are more southern than the Confederate South. Why do right wingers only have socialism on a national and international basis instead of the free market Capitalism solutions they allege to espouse in socialism threads?
And what are these free market capitalism solutions which can fight the corruption in underdeveloped states?

Drug sales in the US are possible because some people have the profit out of that too, btw.
 

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What if it is the drug war that is making things worse
The main reason why the drug market exists is corruption, I think. There is a chain of officials, including in law enforcement forces, that profit or just turn a bling eye on this.
It must have a similar effect on less developed nations who should be investing in their own infrastructure instead of the corruption of a drug war they can't win.
'Less developed' nations might be glad to invest in infrastructure, but some people there who tend to have the power prefer to spend money on more profitable projects. The sale of drugs is one of them.
It is not their drug war. And, they are more southern than the Confederate South. Why do right wingers only have socialism on a national and international basis instead of the free market Capitalism solutions they allege to espouse in socialism threads?
And what are these free market capitalism solutions which can fight the corruption in underdeveloped states?

Drug sales in the US are possible because some people have the profit out of that too, btw.
Investing in those economies, for one. Not helping to destroy those economies with a useless and endless drug war for another.
 

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What if it is the drug war that is making things worse
The main reason why the drug market exists is corruption, I think. There is a chain of officials, including in law enforcement forces, that profit or just turn a bling eye on this.
It must have a similar effect on less developed nations who should be investing in their own infrastructure instead of the corruption of a drug war they can't win.
'Less developed' nations might be glad to invest in infrastructure, but some people there who tend to have the power prefer to spend money on more profitable projects. The sale of drugs is one of them.
It is not their drug war. And, they are more southern than the Confederate South. Why do right wingers only have socialism on a national and international basis instead of the free market Capitalism solutions they allege to espouse in socialism threads?
And what are these free market capitalism solutions which can fight the corruption in underdeveloped states?

Drug sales in the US are possible because some people have the profit out of that too, btw.
Investing in those economies, for one. Not helping to destroy those economies with a useless and endless drug war for another.
Investing in those economies, without uprooting the widespread corruption there, is like pouring the water into a bottomless can.

What exactly do you mean saying about a drug war in the US?
 

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Investing in those economies, without uprooting the widespread corruption there, is like pouring the water into a bottomless can.

What exactly do you mean saying about a drug war in the US?
I agree to disagree. I could be as simple as investing in infrastructure to make it more difficult for corruption to be an influence and help people make more money there and not need to come here.

Costs to taxpayers
According to a 2008 study published by Harvard economist Jeffrey A. Miron, the annual savings on enforcement and incarceration costs from the legalization of drugs would amount to roughly $41.3 billion, with $25.7 billion being saved among the states and over $15.6 billion accrued for the federal government. Miron further estimated at least $46.7 billion in tax revenue based on rates comparable to those on tobacco and alcohol: $8.7 billion from marijuana, $32.6 billion from cocaine and heroin, and $5.4 billion from other drugs.[138]

Low taxation in Central American countries has been credited with weakening the region's response in dealing with drug traffickers. Many cartels, especially Los Zetas have taken advantage of the limited resources of these nations. 2010 tax revenue in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, composed just 13.53% of GDP. As a comparison, in Chile and the U.S., taxes were 18.6% and 26.9% of GDP respectively. However, direct taxes on income are very hard to enforce and in some cases tax evasion is seen as a national pastime.[139]

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Investing in those economies, without uprooting the widespread corruption there, is like pouring the water into a bottomless can.

What exactly do you mean saying about a drug war in the US?
I agree to disagree. I could be as simple as investing in infrastructure to make it more difficult for corruption to be an influence and help people make more money there and not need to come here.

Costs to taxpayers
According to a 2008 study published by Harvard economist Jeffrey A. Miron, the annual savings on enforcement and incarceration costs from the legalization of drugs would amount to roughly $41.3 billion, with $25.7 billion being saved among the states and over $15.6 billion accrued for the federal government. Miron further estimated at least $46.7 billion in tax revenue based on rates comparable to those on tobacco and alcohol: $8.7 billion from marijuana, $32.6 billion from cocaine and heroin, and $5.4 billion from other drugs.[138]

Low taxation in Central American countries has been credited with weakening the region's response in dealing with drug traffickers. Many cartels, especially Los Zetas have taken advantage of the limited resources of these nations. 2010 tax revenue in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, composed just 13.53% of GDP. As a comparison, in Chile and the U.S., taxes were 18.6% and 26.9% of GDP respectively. However, direct taxes on income are very hard to enforce and in some cases tax evasion is seen as a national pastime.[139]

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So, what do you propose? To pour the US money into Central and South America, Afghanistan, South East Asia to increase the wellbeing of their people to enable them to live without selling the drugs?
 

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Investing in those economies, without uprooting the widespread corruption there, is like pouring the water into a bottomless can.

What exactly do you mean saying about a drug war in the US?
I agree to disagree. I could be as simple as investing in infrastructure to make it more difficult for corruption to be an influence and help people make more money there and not need to come here.

Costs to taxpayers
According to a 2008 study published by Harvard economist Jeffrey A. Miron, the annual savings on enforcement and incarceration costs from the legalization of drugs would amount to roughly $41.3 billion, with $25.7 billion being saved among the states and over $15.6 billion accrued for the federal government. Miron further estimated at least $46.7 billion in tax revenue based on rates comparable to those on tobacco and alcohol: $8.7 billion from marijuana, $32.6 billion from cocaine and heroin, and $5.4 billion from other drugs.[138]

Low taxation in Central American countries has been credited with weakening the region's response in dealing with drug traffickers. Many cartels, especially Los Zetas have taken advantage of the limited resources of these nations. 2010 tax revenue in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, composed just 13.53% of GDP. As a comparison, in Chile and the U.S., taxes were 18.6% and 26.9% of GDP respectively. However, direct taxes on income are very hard to enforce and in some cases tax evasion is seen as a national pastime.[139]

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So, what do you propose? To pour the US money into Central and South America, Afghanistan, South East Asia to increase the wellbeing of their people to enable them to live without selling the drugs?
A chance to make money for Capitalists instead of endless and alleged wars and refugees? Sure.
 

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I am talking about the invasion from the southern border ??
Is this really what you want ???

You want millions of more illiterate ,peasants to flood in and turn the USA into a different nation

You think you are going to be safe

Discuss ??
I don't care how many people come across the border as long as they find work and earn their keep. Xenophobia has run rampant throughout American history. The only thing that's changed over the years is who it gets aimed at.
In the past ?? They had no welfare state
Irish , Italians and Jews had hard times
Many are coming for “ free milk and honey “

The ones who do work will eviscerate the jobs of poor Americans
libs make it plain as day they give a fluck about Americans...they just want power
 

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Maybe it would be better to let the countries they come from govern themselves, instead of our government funding death squads and coups.
 

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I am talking about the invasion from the southern border ??
Is this really what you want ???

You want millions of more illiterate ,peasants to flood in and turn the USA into a different nation

You think you are going to be safe

Discuss ??
I don't care how many people come across the border as long as they find work and earn their keep. Xenophobia has run rampant throughout American history. The only thing that's changed over the years is who it gets aimed at.
In the past ?? They had no welfare state
Irish , Italians and Jews had hard times
Many are coming for “ free milk and honey “

The ones who do work will eviscerate the jobs of poor Americans
libs make it plain as day they give a fluck about Americans...they just want power
Unlike right wingers with their expensive and endless wars they can't seem to win and don't want to pay for with war time tax rates. How do alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror promote or provide for the general welfare of Americans? There is no general warfare clause nor even any common offense clause.
 

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