DnC wants cell phone carriers to fact check your text messages

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Scary, if true..

Well, far be it from you to spend 90 seconds reading and learning things, so that you can find out it isn't. Learning is for losers, right?

You tell 'em, sport... you lost me as soon as I saw "The New York Post" as the medium... I'll wait for the biggies to carry it...

Already are. You are correct in that you will get better info there. But you are waiting for yesterday....

 

[LeftofLeft]

Who or what determines what are facts and what are not facts? The DNC?

 

[Asclepias]

There's no way to preclude our government spying on us. We can only confuse and frustrate it by establishing codes wherein communications between established contacts are exchanged by hand written letters sent by USPS then used only for texting and emailing between those contacts. Several different codes can ./ be established and rotated on an esoteric basis such as DATE or DAY OF THE WEEK. I often use a simple code (easy for me to remember but difficult to figure out) when I write down my passwords. Not a single character in the string of characters that I write down matches what appears in the same position in the string of characters in the actual password.

Ether Net, repeat after me.

I'm on Ethernet. I don't use WiFi at all.

What difference do you think that makes?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Scary, if true..

Well, far be it from you to spend 90 seconds reading and learning things, so that you can find out it isn't. Learning is for losers, right?

You tell 'em, sport... you lost me as soon as I saw "The New York Post" as the medium... I'll wait for the biggies to carry it...

CBS news presented 1972 Microsoft documents as facts to support Bush being AWOL in the National Guard.

 

[daveman]

Scary, if true..

Well, far be it from you to spend 90 seconds reading and learning things, so that you can find out it isn't. Learning is for losers, right?

You tell 'em, sport... you lost me as soon as I saw "The New York Post" as the medium... I'll wait for the biggies to carry it...

CBS news presented 1972 Microsoft documents as facts to support Bush being AWOL in the National Guard.

FAKE BUT ACCURATE

 

[Asclepias]

Who or what determines what are facts and what are not facts? The DNC?

Science.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Who or what determines what are facts and what are not facts? The DNC?

Science.

Whose science? Science is not debatable? What about the unknown?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

When fascism comes to America it will find the DNC is already here.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Scary, if true..

Well, far be it from you to spend 90 seconds reading and learning things, so that you can find out it isn't. Learning is for losers, right?

You tell 'em, sport... you lost me as soon as I saw "The New York Post" as the medium... I'll wait for the biggies to carry it...

You'll wait for those carrying the lefts water to report it.....

Hahahaha what a moron

 

[Kondor3]

Scary, if true..

Well, far be it from you to spend 90 seconds reading and learning things, so that you can find out it isn't. Learning is for losers, right?

You tell 'em, sport... you lost me as soon as I saw "The New York Post" as the medium... I'll wait for the biggies to carry it...

You'll wait for those carrying the lefts water to report it.....

Hahahaha what a moron

Look, my little Internet Blowhard... I watch CNN, Fox, MSNBC, BBC and others... a respectable mix of Left, Right and Center.

I seriously doubt that you can say the same... being of limited tolerance for varying viewpoints... and needing to live in a right-wing echo-chamber.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Scary, if true..

Well, far be it from you to spend 90 seconds reading and learning things, so that you can find out it isn't. Learning is for losers, right?

You tell 'em, sport... you lost me as soon as I saw "The New York Post" as the medium... I'll wait for the biggies to carry it...

You'll wait for those carrying the lefts water to report it.....

Hahahaha what a moron

Look, my little Internet Blowhard... I watch CNN, Fox, MSNBC, BBC and others... a respectable mix of Left, Right and Center.

I seriously doubt that you can say the same... being of limited tolerance for varying viewpoints... and needing to live in a right-wing echo-chamber.

BBC? MSNBC? CNN? I doubt Fox, if you do watch it at all, can smooth out that imbalance.

But your attempts to appear the impartial fair minded viewer are expected and appreciated
even if your idea of a "respectable mix" seems quite skewed.

 

[asaratis]

There's no way to preclude our government spying on us. We can only confuse and frustrate it by establishing codes wherein communications between established contacts are exchanged by hand written letters sent by USPS then used only for texting and emailing between those contacts. Several different codes can ./ be established and rotated on an esoteric basis such as DATE or DAY OF THE WEEK. I often use a simple code (easy for me to remember but difficult to figure out) when I write down my passwords. Not a single character in the string of characters that I write down matches what appears in the same position in the string of characters in the actual password.

Ether Net, repeat after me.

I'm on Ethernet. I don't use WiFi at all.

What difference do you think that makes?

You should study the differences online. Here's a short lesson for you.

I prefer it for several reasons:


Speed.
WiFi is not designed for voice.
No interference from radio signals.
No need to boost the signal. Most cables good to 100 meters.
Breaching the ethernet system requires physical access to it. WiFi can be breached easily with no physical connection.

 

[Kondor3]

Scary, if true..

Well, far be it from you to spend 90 seconds reading and learning things, so that you can find out it isn't. Learning is for losers, right?

You tell 'em, sport... you lost me as soon as I saw "The New York Post" as the medium... I'll wait for the biggies to carry it...

You'll wait for those carrying the lefts water to report it.....

Hahahaha what a moron

Look, my little Internet Blowhard... I watch CNN, Fox, MSNBC, BBC and others... a respectable mix of Left, Right and Center.

I seriously doubt that you can say the same... being of limited tolerance for varying viewpoints... and needing to live in a right-wing echo-chamber.

BBC? MSNBC? CNN? I doubt Fox, if you do watch it at all, can smooth out that imbalance.

But your attempts to appear the impartial fair minded viewer are expected and appreciated
even if your idea of a "respectable mix" seems quite skewed.

You can doubt Fox all you like... doesn't mean that your doubt is a Reality... and it's not, by the way.

I watch 'em all at home, and I listen to 'em all on SiriusXM while commuting and while in my office once I'm on-the-clock for the day.

I am by no means "fair and balanced" and do not even pretend to be... I am a hybrid political creature... my loyalties are to God, Family, Friends and Republic.

I could give two $hit$ about - and feel zero loyalty towards - either the feckless, gutless, nutless Republicans, or the Bat$hit-Crazy Idiot Democrats.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Now we know why they wanted Trump out so bad. We are making Canada look good. Now we are full communist where anything unapproved by the state is deemed misinformation then they come to take you away in the middle of the night for "correction."

That's right *****. Spread em' wide. Be a good citizen. Or the libtardz will kill you!

Or maybe, you're just a ******* idiot.

 

[Osiris-ODS]

Who or what determines what are facts and what are not facts? The DNC?

Science.

Whose science? Science is not debatable? What about the unknown?

The word "science" = dogma when it's used by the left

 

[candycorn]

Cool thread...

What I like about it is that the question becomes "who owns your text messages". When you sign up for cell service or internet....if it isn't spelled out in the agreement about who has copyright on what you create....it is an open question. Unless it says that "T-Mobile owns your messages", you're probably covered by copyright law. A bigger question becomes whether Verizon or T-Mobile or even the hardware makers--Apple and Samsung--can get into the game of censorship. If Apple doesn't like what you're doing with their devices, can they refuse to sell you a phone? If Verizon doesn't like what your messaging, can they just terminate the contract? It's not infringing on a copyright...its simply a termination of the contract.

As for Biden and whatever the video was (Grumps is here to steer traffic to YouTube...nothing more)...I'm sure it's all made up.

But the root question is interesting.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Who or what determines what are facts and what are not facts? The DNC?

Science.

Whose science? Science is not debatable? What about the unknown?

The word "science" = dogma when it's used by the left

The Left is appointing themselves as arbitrators on what is science and what are facts. Remember, these are the same people that appointed themselves the determinants of what is hate speech and what is a hate crime.

 

[NightFox]

Cool thread...

What I like about it is that the question becomes "who owns your text messages". When you sign up for cell service or internet....if it isn't spelled out in the agreement about who has copyright on what you create....it is an open question. Unless it says that "T-Mobile owns your messages", you're probably covered by copyright law. A bigger question becomes whether Verizon or T-Mobile or even the hardware makers--Apple and Samsung--can get into the game of censorship. If Apple doesn't like what you're doing with their devices, can they refuse to sell you a phone? If Verizon doesn't like what your messaging, can they just terminate the contract? It's not infringing on a copyright...its simply a termination of the contract.

As for Biden and whatever the video was (Grumps is here to steer traffic to YouTube...nothing more)...I'm sure it's all made up.

But the root question is interesting.

Copyright protection requires that the litmus test of “modicum of originality” be met, for example if you’re texting someone regarding the current weather conditions there is no reasonable argument to be made for originality, thus no basis for copyright protection. The other consideration is that a text conversation between two people even if it meets the originality benchmark would be subject to joint copyright protection, meaning that one of the two parties is free to use,distribute, modify the content without the consent of the other party.

There is also the question of FAIR USE which raises the question of the nature of the use, the nature of the copyrighted material and the effects of the use. So again your text conversation could be used, re-distributed, etc., without your consent if certain conditions are met even if the content met the criteria for copyright protection.

As far as termination of contract by a carrier (e.g. Verizon) could only get away with that if the subscriber violated the terms of the contract (aka terms of service) and the carrier can demonstrate such violation in court, otherwise it would be a breach. However said carrier could refuse to enter into a contract with you for any reason it deems appropriate, not subject to any preset terms. As far as an equipment manufacturer like Apple, they could refuse to sell you a phone for whatever reason they like, it’s a voluntary transaction after all, just like you could refuse to sell your garden hose to a prospective buyer because you don’t like the color of his hair.

If you’re really worried about a carrier misusing your messages then you can always go with a peer-to-peer, end to end encryption messaging system (e.g. Wire).

 

[candycorn]

Cool thread...

What I like about it is that the question becomes "who owns your text messages". When you sign up for cell service or internet....if it isn't spelled out in the agreement about who has copyright on what you create....it is an open question. Unless it says that "T-Mobile owns your messages", you're probably covered by copyright law. A bigger question becomes whether Verizon or T-Mobile or even the hardware makers--Apple and Samsung--can get into the game of censorship. If Apple doesn't like what you're doing with their devices, can they refuse to sell you a phone? If Verizon doesn't like what your messaging, can they just terminate the contract? It's not infringing on a copyright...its simply a termination of the contract.

As for Biden and whatever the video was (Grumps is here to steer traffic to YouTube...nothing more)...I'm sure it's all made up.

But the root question is interesting.

Copyright protection requires that the litmus test of “modicum of originality” be met, for example if you’re texting someone regarding the current weather conditions there is no reasonable argument to be made for originality, thus no basis for copyright protection. The other consideration is that a text conversation between two people even if it meets the originality benchmark would be subject to joint copyright protection, meaning that one of the two parties is free to use,distribute, modify the content without the consent of the other party.

There is also the question of FAIR USE which raises the question of the nature of the use, the nature of the copyrighted material and the effects of the use. So again your text conversation could be used, re-distributed, etc., without your consent if certain conditions are met even if the content met the criteria for copyright protection.

As far as termination of contract by a carrier (e.g. Verizon) could only get away with that if the subscriber violated the terms of the contract (aka terms of service) and the carrier can demonstrate such violation in court, otherwise it would be a breach. However said carrier could refuse to enter into a contract with you for any reason it deems appropriate, not subject to any preset terms. As far as an equipment manufacturer like Apple, they could refuse to sell you a phone for whatever reason they like, it’s a voluntary transaction after all, just like you could refuse to sell your garden hose to a prospective buyer because you don’t like the color of his hair.

If you’re really worried about a carrier misusing your messages then you can always go with a peer-to-peer, end to end encryption messaging system (e.g. Wire).

So essentially it comes down to the agreement you sign when you get service for your phone if I'm understanding you correctly--the TOS one carrier has could theoretically give them the right to terminate your contract.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

DNC, Biden allies want phone carriers to vet anti-vax messages: report

The DNC and other allies want wireless carriers to scrutinize messages for alleged misinformation about the Biden administration’s push to vaccinate more Americans against the coronavirus.

nypost.com

This is what happens when you give anti American leftists power.

I'm guessing you dont realize they look at your messages anyway for key words?

Translation: I approve of the totalitarian tyrannical govt. Useful idiots will be praised at first by the regime and then dealt with soon after.