Dispelling the re=writing of America's history with the 2nd Amendment and guns....

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Here we have a look at the left wing attempt to change history to aid in their movement to end the 2nd Amendment...

Topics:

-the founders and the individual Right.

--Gun laws in the old west

--gun control laws in the beginning

--the NRA and political activism



The New York Times Botches Americaā€™s History With The Gun

The fact is that in the 19th century there were no statewide or territory-wide gun control laws for citizens, and certainly no federal laws. Nor was there a single case challenging the idea of the individual right of gun ownership. Guns were romanticized in the literature and art, and the eraā€™s greatest engineers designed and sold them. All the while, American leaders continued to praise the Second Amendment as a bulwark against tyranny.

Those who praised this right, incidentally, include numerous post-Civil War civil rights activists, who offered particularly powerful arguments for the importance of the Second Amendment. Most gun-control regulations that did exist, after all, were used for subjugating blacks and Indians.

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The United States never came close, or even entertained, the idea of banning ā€œall handguns.ā€ I have no idea what Kristof is referring to, since he offers no citation for this claim. The National Firearms Act of 1934, of course, didnā€™t ban any specific category of gun. The National Firearms Act of 1938 didnā€™t ban any specific gun, either. In fact, the NRAā€”still a hobbyist group at the timeā€”only supported the legislation, which allowed for regulating shotgunsā€™ barrel length and instituted a tax on some fully automatic weapons, when Congress dropped a proposal to create a registry of fingerprints.

The first time any kind of gun ban was instituted regarding a category of weapon occurred in 1986, when the sale of fully automatic weapons was highly restricted.

The story of the NRAā€™s dramatic radicalization by a minority is another favorite yarn of anti-Second Amendment advocatesā€”a misleading half-truth that is also largely irrelevant. Itā€™s true that the NRA was not predominately political, since there was no need for such an organization in a nation where no one had seriously attempted to inhibit the ability of law-abiding citizens to own guns.

By the time the Gun Control Act of 1968 was proposedā€”a law that established a system for federally licensed gun dealers and set some restrictions on certain classes of firearmsā€”the NRA was more involved. It successfully opposed the most invasive elements of that legislation: namely, a mandated federal registry for guns and licensing for all gun carriers. Thatā€™s the kind of legislation gun control advocates want today.
 
Have you ever had your mental health checked?
 
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Here we have a look at the left wing attempt to change history to aid in their movement to end the 2nd Amendment...

Topics:

-the founders and the individual Right.

--Gun laws in the old west

--gun control laws in the beginning

--the NRA and political activism



The New York Times Botches Americaā€™s History With The Gun

The fact is that in the 19th century there were no statewide or territory-wide gun control laws for citizens, and certainly no federal laws. Nor was there a single case challenging the idea of the individual right of gun ownership. Guns were romanticized in the literature and art, and the eraā€™s greatest engineers designed and sold them. All the while, American leaders continued to praise the Second Amendment as a bulwark against tyranny.

Those who praised this right, incidentally, include numerous post-Civil War civil rights activists, who offered particularly powerful arguments for the importance of the Second Amendment. Most gun-control regulations that did exist, after all, were used for subjugating blacks and Indians.

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The United States never came close, or even entertained, the idea of banning ā€œall handguns.ā€ I have no idea what Kristof is referring to, since he offers no citation for this claim. The National Firearms Act of 1934, of course, didnā€™t ban any specific category of gun. The National Firearms Act of 1938 didnā€™t ban any specific gun, either. In fact, the NRAā€”still a hobbyist group at the timeā€”only supported the legislation, which allowed for regulating shotgunsā€™ barrel length and instituted a tax on some fully automatic weapons, when Congress dropped a proposal to create a registry of fingerprints.

The first time any kind of gun ban was instituted regarding a category of weapon occurred in 1986, when the sale of fully automatic weapons was highly restricted.

The story of the NRAā€™s dramatic radicalization by a minority is another favorite yarn of anti-Second Amendment advocatesā€”a misleading half-truth that is also largely irrelevant. Itā€™s true that the NRA was not predominately political, since there was no need for such an organization in a nation where no one had seriously attempted to inhibit the ability of law-abiding citizens to own guns.

By the time the Gun Control Act of 1968 was proposedā€”a law that established a system for federally licensed gun dealers and set some restrictions on certain classes of firearmsā€”the NRA was more involved. It successfully opposed the most invasive elements of that legislation: namely, a mandated federal registry for guns and licensing for all gun carriers. Thatā€™s the kind of legislation gun control advocates want today.

The NRA's biggest modern problem is they attract nuts, but they also need the money of the nuts.

Improvements in guns created the issue and we have had reasonable gun control for about a hundred years.

The wild west is an example of everything good and bad about guns. I don't know if I would or would not bring it up.

Regardless, guns are here, your Facebook app has registered any gun you have researched on your phone or ever talked about with your phone on. Wanna fight the power or just cling to some 1960's mentality of who is registering your guns?
 
30,000 gun deaths a year

All we need to know
 


Actually, you lie by omission...


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2016...

gun suicide....22,938

Unintentional gun accidental death..

495

Gum murder...

2016......11,004

2017.....10,982

Then.....number of times Americans use guns for self defense, according to the Centers for Disease control...

1.1 million

Crime rate as more Americans own and carry guns..

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%


Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nationā€™s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearmā€”assaults, robberies and sex crimesā€”was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
 


Actually, you lie by omission...


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2016...

gun suicide....22,938

Unintentional gun accidental death..

495

Gum murder...

2016......11,004

2017.....10,982

Then.....number of times Americans use guns for self defense, according to the Centers for Disease control...

1.1 million

Crime rate as more Americans own and carry guns..

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%


Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nationā€™s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearmā€”assaults, robberies and sex crimesā€”was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
Still selling the myth of saving a million lives
 


Actually, you lie by omission...


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2016...

gun suicide....22,938

Unintentional gun accidental death..

495

Gum murder...

2016......11,004

2017.....10,982

Then.....number of times Americans use guns for self defense, according to the Centers for Disease control...

1.1 million

Crime rate as more Americans own and carry guns..

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%


Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nationā€™s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearmā€”assaults, robberies and sex crimesā€”was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
Still selling the myth of saving a million lives


Not a myth....from the CDC and the Department of Justice, two different studies.....
 


Actually, you lie by omission...


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2016...

gun suicide....22,938

Unintentional gun accidental death..

495

Gum murder...

2016......11,004

2017.....10,982

Then.....number of times Americans use guns for self defense, according to the Centers for Disease control...

1.1 million

Crime rate as more Americans own and carry guns..

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%


Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nationā€™s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearmā€”assaults, robberies and sex crimesā€”was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
Still selling the myth of saving a million lives

He supported it. Can you support your assertion?
 

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