NotfooledbyW
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That was a big heaping helping of crazy and anti-Christian bigotry and anti-white racism all mixed together.
Point to the words that you believe are anti- Christians
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That was a big heaping helping of crazy and anti-Christian bigotry and anti-white racism all mixed together.
What about what I mentioned regarding the motivation and attitude that led your war mongering side to dismiss valid reasons such as letting the inspections play out as 6 out of 10 Americans preferred?1. Not at all. THere were plenty of valid reasons to oppose the war. Nothing I have ever said implied otherwise.
For suggesting that I know I was called a SADDAM LOVING anti-American Islamist.
We were not having a legitimate debate prior to the war versus rational intelligent people. and Bush went with them. Now you don’t want to talk about it.
You are Poud that religious Christian warmongers won the Day with your DUBYA and now we are obligated to just shut up about it.
Saddam did not exhaust the public’s patience. What tells you that he did? A Toby Kieth song.?3. Bush did not take Saddam up on his offer, because Saddam had exhausted America's patience.
What I wrote is still there’s last I checked.1. "the motivation and altitude"? WTF are you even talking about?
. My point was that rehashing it, is pointless.
That Christian NATION oriented voter base holds the view as you do that former President Obama is an anti-American, anti-Israel, Marxists topped off with anti-white racism. There is no way that voter base would ever hear or consider his legitimate views regarding Iraq when there is a white evangelical patriotic Christian man in the White
House telling them what he wants them to believe.
Saddam did not exhaust the public’s patience. What tells you that he did? A Toby Kieth song.?3. Bush did not take Saddam up on his offer, because Saddam had exhausted America's patience.
What I wrote is still there’s last I checked.1. "the motivation and altitude"? WTF are you even talking about?
Sure he did. You can't just keep fucking around indefinitely, especially when the country you are fucking around with, just lost 3k citizens to a surprise attack.
Do you forget how angry America was?
Never facts - always format with you.You were vague.
I supported, for reasons previous explained, the policy of invasion.
Whatever led you to your false belief that Trump changed his original opinion to support or I believe in his case he did not object to the invasion into Iraq to disarm Iraq of WMD without allowing the inspectors finish the job.Yep. At one point he supported the war, and at a later time he stated his belief that Bush lied to get us into that war.
I mean, wow. People change their opinions over time, especially in the light of new information.
Of course the religious right is only a part of the entire Trump base. I have not made a claim that it is in any way There v whole Trump base. Why did you make a point of it to say that I did?POINT ONE. Bush's/Trump's base, that you are so.... fixated on, does not equal with The Religious RIght. The RR is a PART of the REpublican Base, not the whole of it, you seem confused on that point
That was a big heaping helping of crazy and anti-Christian bigotry
And if I understand you correctly that is what convinced you in or around November 2002 to support the proposed ground invasion, occupation and nation building in Iraq. Is that right?A big part of the argument for war, was that a functioning democracy in the ME would be a powerful ideological challenge to Islamic Extremism.
Iraq was presented as a good candidate for that.
4. The transition to democracy was a lot harder than we had reason to expect AND the Iraqis needed a lot more help defending it, then we had reason to hope.
Sure he did. You can't just keep fucking around indefinitely, especially when the country you are fucking around with, just lost 3k citizens to a surprise attack.
Do you forget how angry America was?
I have cited for you dozens of polls that indicate a great deal of patience by 60 percent of Americans. That is my source as evidence that most Americans wanted War only with UN support stating they had the patience to let the inspections continue.
My argument is supported by professional polling: Saddam did not exhaust the public’s patience on a 60/40
Split
What is your source for saying the polling is not true or reliable and that most in the country did not want Bush to let the inspectors finish the job?
The push for war never linked SH to the surprize attack in September 2001.
What about what I mentioned regarding the motivation and attitude that led your war mongering side to dismiss valid reasons such as letting the inspections play out as 6 out of 10 Americans preferred?1. Not at all. THere were plenty of valid reasons to oppose the war. Nothing I have ever said implied otherwise.
For suggesting that I know I was called a SADDAM LOVING anti-American Islamist.
We were not having a legitimate debate prior to the war versus rational intelligent people. and Bush went with them. Now you don’t want to talk about it.
You are Poud that religious Christian warmongers won the Day with your DUBYA and now we are obligated to just shut up about it.
1. "the motivation and altitude"? WTF are you even talking about? We disagreed with your desire to give Saddam more time.
2. You do come across a being quite anti-American. I would actually peg you as a standard lefty atheist, not an islamist.
3. We were having a fairly healthy debate on the issue, certainly better than we would do today, what with Big Tech and Cancel Culture. That it was not conducted according to formal debate rules, by Vulcans, is part of the Human Condition.
4. I am not Proud of winning a debate in the past. My point was that rehashing it, is pointless. I was clear about that. Stop pretending to not get the point so you can talk shit.
5. YOur anti-Christian bigotry is noted.
I supported, for reasons previous explained, the policy of invasion.
I was pointing out the point where you joined the discussion:
The lie I was referring in the above was specific . “Bush lied about SH hiding them from inspectors in March (2003) to start a war.” I was not referring to any intelligence gathering prior to the UN inspectors’ return to Iraq in December 2002. This is where Correll joined the discussion.
Correll said: Could have been an honest mistake.
Yes you explained that you supported the War in Iraq because you were angry about the al Qaeda attacks that had nothing to do with SH in Iraq.
And you have presented distorted logic for why we must not ever discuss what was being discussed when you joined this thread because you, a cultural Christian true American say it was an honest mistake - move on.
I supported, for reasons previous explained, the policy of invasion.
I was pointing out the point where you joined the discussion:
The lie I was referring in the above was specific . “Bush lied about SH hiding them from inspectors in March (2003) to start a war.” I was not referring to any intelligence gathering prior to the UN inspectors’ return to Iraq in December 2002. This is where Correll joined the discussion.
Correll said: Could have been an honest mistake.
Yes you explained that you supported the War in Iraq because you were angry about the al Qaeda attacks that had nothing to do with SH in Iraq.
And you have presented distorted logic for why we must not ever discuss what was being discussed when you joined this thread because you, a cultural Christian true American say it was an honest mistake - move on.
1. YOur opinion that Bush lied is irrelevant at this late date.
2. And it could have been an honest mistake.
3. Al Qaeda attacks are NOT the reason I supported the invasion.
4. My being a cultural Christian has nothing to do with my logic, or my support of the invasion. .You are just being a religious bigot.
5. This is all about your desire to use this to somehow spin up some negative shit to smear current day Trump supporters.
But of course you were never wrong personally and you of course continue to be absolutely right about WMD. You were right prior to the AUMF vote in October 2002 that was tied to disarming Iraq peacefully and patiently of WMD If possible.1. We were wrong about the wmds. GOT IT.
2. Yes. I found the WMD argument to be unconvincing at the time.
The inspection’s meant nothing to the war supporters in 2003 and they mean absolutely nothing to @Correll today.
@Correll believes in a series of Iraq common myths and has a total lack of comprehension of what disarming Iraq peacefully means when the fact turned out to be there were no WMD to be found by the invading army.
I resigned the Republican party after 35 years because of Bush's stupidity
Where’s the facts?Never facts - always format with you.You were vague.
A lot of people came to the conclusion that Saddam was hiding shit. It is strange with the benefit of hindsight that what he was hiding was that he ACTUALLY destroyed his wmds, as required.
An odd choice for him. Especially as America had been terribly attacked and was not in a mood to put up with any shit.
Would have been a good time to walk softly, instead of poking the bear.
Saddam had plenty of time. He choose to spend it fucking around.
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