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Your argument here says otherwise. Were you angry and upset when it was confirmed by the warmonger Administration that the WMD used to justify the war was not found by the invading army?
My point was the only true point to be made about the ‘other’ or your ‘personal’ justification for getting half a million Iraqis killed is that it is not a disagreement. Your personal justification for the war is not valid. The nation building argument for war was not an argument to justify starting a war in the middle of ongoing peaceful inspections.
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No. I believe that a Liar such as yourself will always try to justify their lies by calling it a difference of opinion. That’s why we must seek out and I always try to stick to the facts.
Why do you limit the inspections process to only those two outcomes.
The step following verification of compliance was to set up long term monitoring. So you are wrong. There was no “Finish” to the disarming process after determining there were no ACTIVE WMD manufacturing and stockpiling activities going on so that sanctions could be lifted.
I’m sure you do. I’m guessing you consider yourself so much more important and valuable than the people of Iraq that you preferred they get some boot up the ass war and you get to keep you couch potato peace.
They could have had peace and learn their dictatorship didn't have the WMD that W sent the military to find. And they found none.
Man. Why are you such an asshole? Nothing I said justified this nonsense from you.
What does it matter?
I UNDERSTAND YOU CANNOT DEFEND YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SENSELESS AND UNNECESSARY KILLING OF HALF A MILLION IRAQIS TO LOOK FOR WMD THAT WERE NOT. Don’t feel bad - no one can.
Your arrogance is a serious problem.
When you say shit like there were only two options available to the inspectors you need to be straightened out. When you get straightened out I won’t go back to it.
"Forced by what" exactly? By whom?
The UNSC. W was required to give all the evidence he had to the inspectors. Up to the date of the invasion W said they gave the inspectors all the evidence they had. The inspectors found none of it to be credible. Three more months of indirections would forced W abandon if a claim that he had evidence when he announced his final decision disarm Iraq by killing civilians.
n interesting assumption. One that I never heard mentioned at the time.
Oh, well, moot now
Don't play stupid. We covered that.
My point stands
I hoped that the loss of civilian life would be minimal. I
IMO, they would have said anything to avoid war. Thus, they were not credible.
They were playing games , trying to avoid a war.
I don't recall giving it any thought. I probably just figured that he was in a waiting it out mode. It seems unlikely for him to try to manufacture significant weapons while inspectors are searching for shit.
Regardless, my point stands. The inspectors were not disarming him, they were going though the motions trying to use process to prevent a war.
The inspectors would have said anything to avoid war, perhaps with the limitation of covering their asses.
4. You again, hold President Bush, fully responsible for ALL teh deaths, thus letting everyone else off the hook.
He is. There were no hostilities from the Iraqi side when W started the invasion occupation and insurgency. Can you dispute that?
I don't really care if he stopped or not.
Except I agreed with you that those shells did not mean that the WMDs, were found.
IF the Saddam had managed to provide convincing documentation of the destruction of the wmds,
This is a chain of relevant posts on the subject of the 1991 undocumented destruction of Iran-Iraq war era chemical agents and artillery shells.
You have multiple errors in your logic and arguments we are to be consistent with facts.
Can you see your errors on your own or do you need me to factually and honestly point them out.
it will prove with regard to Iraq that you strongly prefer war over peace.
SH had no obligation to produce something impossible to produce. The issue applied to the ancient WMD that you said
Make your point, if i
I made a point - You didn’t bother to read it. Follow the chain of posts if you believe language and words have meaning.
Maybe you will figure something out about hue to really prevent another Iraq debacle.
Fine. In theory IF the Saddam had managed to provide convincing documentation of the destruction of the wmds, which he did not do, AND managed to deescalate the confrontation with the US,
The issue applied to the ancient WMD that you said was not what W used to justify starting a war to find WMD.
Make it concisely, and without the partisan shit or whining about the collateral damage.
I see no problem with my chain of logic or my various positions you posted excerpts from.
SH had no obligation to produce something impossible to produce.
Fine. In theory IF the Saddam had managed to provide convincing documentation of the destruction of the wmds, which he did not do, AND managed to deescalate the confrontation with the US, to the point that war did not happen, AND, the US managed to maintain the support for the sanctions AND the inspectors were allowed to continue their monitoring process, AND the American President did not lose faith in them (which he should have) there is a chance that there would have been an option where the inspectors continued their process. Whoop de FUcking do.
I UNDERSTAND YOU CANNOT DEFEND YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SENSELESS AND UNNECESSARY KILLING OF HALF A MILLION IRAQIS TO LOOK FOR WMD THAT WERE NOT. Don’t feel bad - no one can.
So, you're dropping that shit about me considering myself more important than the Iraqis?
The IRAQI side actual did do everything in its power to deescalate the confrontation.
Of course you don’t. You spend most of your time obfuscating to avoid dealing with facts. That is how your arguments are always flawed and incompetent.
Shooting at American planes? Supporting terrorism?
