Did WWIII just start?

[Stryder50]

Spare me your antisemitic gaslighting

Spare us the rehash of this ...
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion: Unpacking the Notorious Antisemitic Forgery

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, first
published in Russia in 1903, is a notorious work
of forgery containing many antisemitic conspiracy
theories. Its twenty-four protocols depict a detailed
sinister Jewish plot to gain world domination. Building
on age-old antisemitic blood-libels and myths,
the Protocols modernised many of those tropes
and launched them into the twentieth century. The
publication quickly gained popularity worldwide and has
become a primary source of inspiration for antisemites.

Many of the conspiracies included in the book existed
prior to its publication. These include the notion of
Jewish world domination, control over governments,
media and finance, and plots to destabilise the world
order by promoting disorder and wars to benefit Jews.
The Protocols have been translated from Russian into
English, Arabic, Japanese, Polish, Spanish, and many
other languages.

The main narrative in the Protocols depicts Jews as
hating the goyim, or gentiles – anyone who is not
Jewish. Jews and their agents, who, according to the
Protocols, are present everywhere, plot to undermine
world order by various means, including instability,
financial control and control over primary sources of
information, such as the press and academia. Jews,
according to the Protocols, plan to eventually destroy
or subjugate their enemies and gain total world
domination. Throughout the Protocols, there is a sense
that Jews see themselves as ‘the chosen people’ and
view everyone else as there merely to be ruled, used,
looked down upon, or to have contempt against. ‘We’
are powerful, ‘they’ are not smart, not sophisticated
and greedy. The Protocols also exhibit Jewish contempt
towards liberalism and freedoms, and set a plot to take
advantage of these to serve their ambitions.
...

https://antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/APT-Protocols-Report.pdf

We also have a thread on this board on this myth/lie/"pravda" ...
Deconstructing the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is how fundamentally stupid our unforced error of a war on Iran is

We had no plan going in, didn’t bother to think through the economic damage from closing the Strait of Hormuz

All our bases in the area have been hit. The naval base destroyed so we have to go to India or Diego Garcia

Moon of Alabama – And must have whiskey – Oh, you know why

“War On Iran: – No Missile Defense – AI Targeting – Local Retaliation
In this edition:

– Radars hit -> missile defense failure -> strategic defeat
– AI targeting -> dead children
– Attacks on civil infrastructure -> in-kind retaliation

During the first phase of the U.S. war on Iran a lot of ammunition was spent (archived) for dubious value:

The first 36 hours of the U.S.-Israeli campaign against Iran consumed more than 3,000 precision-guided munitions and interceptors, exposing a critical vulnerability in the supply chain. Much is unknown about the future of the war and its wider implications, but one thing is clear: the need to replenish munition stockpiles.

Iran responded to the assault by hitting at the most valuable and vulnerable U.S. targets:

Beyond the sheer volume of munitions, the loss of high-value assetsintroduces another layer of complexity. The destruction of two advanced U.S. radars, the AN/FPS-132 in Qatar and the AN/TPS-59 in Bahrain, highlights a problem where the total weight of the “mineral bill” is less of a concern than the extreme fragility of the supply chain and the extensive timelines for replacement.

Modern radars contain a lot of rare earth minerals which currently is only produced by China:

Per our analysis, for the AN/FPS-132, it will take five to eight years for Raytheon to build a new radar at a cost of $1.1 billion. Meanwhile, Lockheed Martin will require at least 12 to 24 months and an estimated $50 million to $75 million to replace the AN/TPS-59, based on the original Bahrain Foreign Military Sales contract adjusted for inflation. The biggest issue for the defense industrial base will be sourcing the 77.3 kilograms of gallium needed for both systems, a material for which China controls 98 percent of the global supply. This is not to mention the 30,610 kilograms of copper that will also be needed, a commodity facing surging demand from the technology sector.

The AN/FPS-132 is a big stationary early warning radar. The U.S. has five of those for homeland protection and Qatar was the only other country which bought one. The AN/TPS-59 is a huge truck mounted aerial surveillance radar.

But probably more painful that the losses of those radars is the destruction of at least four mobile missile defense radar AN/TPY-2 which each are the core of a THAAD anti-missile air defense battalion. THAAD systems are the only ones which can somewhat reliable defeat Iranian ballistic missile attacks. Without AN/TPY-2 radar guidance the 48 missile a THAAD battalion carriers are more or less useless.

There are in total only twelve operational AN/TPY-2 radar systems available globally. The price for each of those radars was estimated to be about a half billion dollar. New ones, if they can be build, will likely cost more than a billion.

Five to six of those systems were stationed in the Middle East. By now at least four of themare confirmed as having been killed:

Cont. reading: War On Iran: – No Missile Defense – AI Targeting – Local Retaliation

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Spare us the rehash of this ...
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion: Unpacking the Notorious Antisemitic Forgery

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, first
published in Russia in 1903, is a notorious work
of forgery containing many antisemitic conspiracy
theories. Its twenty-four protocols depict a detailed
sinister Jewish plot to gain world domination. Building
on age-old antisemitic blood-libels and myths,
the Protocols modernised many of those tropes
and launched them into the twentieth century. The
publication quickly gained popularity worldwide and has
become a primary source of inspiration for antisemites.

Many of the conspiracies included in the book existed
prior to its publication. These include the notion of
Jewish world domination, control over governments,
media and finance, and plots to destabilise the world
order by promoting disorder and wars to benefit Jews.
The Protocols have been translated from Russian into
English, Arabic, Japanese, Polish, Spanish, and many
other languages.

The main narrative in the Protocols depicts Jews as
hating the goyim, or gentiles – anyone who is not
Jewish. Jews and their agents, who, according to the
Protocols, are present everywhere, plot to undermine
world order by various means, including instability,
financial control and control over primary sources of
information, such as the press and academia. Jews,
according to the Protocols, plan to eventually destroy
or subjugate their enemies and gain total world
domination. Throughout the Protocols, there is a sense
that Jews see themselves as ‘the chosen people’ and
view everyone else as there merely to be ruled, used,
looked down upon, or to have contempt against. ‘We’
are powerful, ‘they’ are not smart, not sophisticated
and greedy. The Protocols also exhibit Jewish contempt
towards liberalism and freedoms, and set a plot to take
advantage of these to serve their ambitions.
...

https://antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/APT-Protocols-Report.pdf

We also have a thread on this board on this myth/lie/"pravda" ...
Deconstructing the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

I realize people span the educational spectrum here but this required an adjustment

She’s a member of the Knesset

Naama Lazimi - Wikipedia

 

[Stryder50]

I realize people span the educational spectrum here but this required an adjustment

She’s a member of the Knesset

Naama Lazimi - Wikipedia

And you are a believer in the "Protocols ..."

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And you are a believer in the "Protocols ..."

You are clueless and flailing

Take a break

 

[Stryder50]

You are clueless and flailing

Take a break

You defend and enable Evil.
Recycle your karma.

 

[Stryder50]

I realize people span the educational spectrum here but this required an adjustment

She’s a member of the Knesset

Naama Lazimi - Wikipedia

And you supposedly are a citizen of the USA but you aid and support the enemies of our nation.

It's not the matter of education spectrum, it's the matter of ethics, morals, and allegiance.
Your's is opposed to the USA.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Godboy]

Asking the studio audience

Did WW III just start?

Include your reasons either way

Not only will the world not enter this war, not a single country on Earth is going to come to Iran's aid. Who the f*** wants to fight the US military in the Middle East... FOR IRAN? You might find some suicidal terrorists willing to do it, but no actual nation wants that smoke.

The US makes it look easy to fight on the other side of the world because, our logistical expertise is unmatched. Russia couldnt even maintain supply lines inside its own nation, let alone thousands of miles away on a different continent. Not even China is set up to wage a war outside their own territory. There is literally no one that could help Iran, even if they wanted to.

 

[shockedcanadian]

This is how fundamentally stupid our unforced error of a war on Iran is

We had no plan going in, didn’t bother to think through the economic damage from closing the Strait of Hormuz

All our bases in the area have been hit. The naval base destroyed so we have to go to India or Diego Garcia

Moon of Alabama – And must have whiskey – Oh, you know why

“War On Iran: – No Missile Defense – AI Targeting – Local Retaliation
In this edition:

– Radars hit -> missile defense failure -> strategic defeat
– AI targeting -> dead children
– Attacks on civil infrastructure -> in-kind retaliation

During the first phase of the U.S. war on Iran a lot of ammunition was spent (archived) for dubious value:


Iran responded to the assault by hitting at the most valuable and vulnerable U.S. targets:


Modern radars contain a lot of rare earth minerals which currently is only produced by China:


The AN/FPS-132 is a big stationary early warning radar. The U.S. has five of those for homeland protection and Qatar was the only other country which bought one. The AN/TPS-59 is a huge truck mounted aerial surveillance radar.

But probably more painful that the losses of those radars is the destruction of at least four mobile missile defense radar AN/TPY-2 which each are the core of a THAAD anti-missile air defense battalion. THAAD systems are the only ones which can somewhat reliable defeat Iranian ballistic missile attacks. Without AN/TPY-2 radar guidance the 48 missile a THAAD battalion carriers are more or less useless.

There are in total only twelve operational AN/TPY-2 radar systems available globally. The price for each of those radars was estimated to be about a half billion dollar. New ones, if they can be build, will likely cost more than a billion.

Five to six of those systems were stationed in the Middle East. By now at least four of themare confirmed as having been killed:

Cont. reading: War On Iran: – No Missile Defense – AI Targeting – Local Retaliation

Iranian citizens need to be free. The regime there has spread terrorism and killed thousands of their own. It cannot be an extended war though for the U.S. The world economic harm alone would make this untenable. The GOP are now viewed as Neo Cons again, this is devastating for 2028, so they need to have a plan and different plausible scenarios they can end this war with the declaration of a "win". Technically, this could have been declared after a day or two.

 

[MisterBeale]

No he wasn’t dipshit.

Agreed.

SO it was Yitzhak Rabin & Menachem Begin who were responsible for that.

 

[SaxonJackson]

The Iran regime was f*cking the USA in Iraq, sending in the bulk of the insurgents we had to fight after Saddam was out of power.
Iran has been attacking the USA and killing Americans for 46+ years.
This won't follow the path of Iraq since it's the cause of post-Saddam problems in Iraq.

Listen to what a couple of your gods have to say about "regime change war."

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Spare me your antisemitic gaslighting

I wouldn’t gaslight you. You’re not that important.

 

[dblack]

I wouldn’t gaslight you. You’re not that important.

WWIII might turn out to be a slow burn of these proxy wars.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Iranian citizens need to be free. The regime there has spread terrorism and killed thousands of their own. It cannot be an extended war though for the U.S. The world economic harm alone would make this untenable. The GOP are now viewed as Neo Cons again, this is devastating for 2028, so they need to have a plan and different plausible scenarios they can end this war with the declaration of a "win". Technically, this could have been declared after a day or two.

I can't find "freeing Iranian citizens" in our Constitution and certainly not when we're already $39T in debt

Just Iranians? What about North Korea, Turkmenistan, South Sudan, Syria, China and Eritrea ?

 

[shockedcanadian]

I can't find "freeing Iranian citizens" in our Constitution and certainly not when we're already $39T in debt

Just Iranians? What about North Korea, Turkmenistan, South Sudan, Syria, China and Eritrea ?

It is about opportunity and long term interests.

N Korea has nukes. That is the reminder as to why Iran must NOT obtain them.

Numerous members of the Manhattan project and Einstein himself all wished they had not unleashed the power of the atom bomb, they realized that they may have contributed to the end of human civilization at some point in the future.

Their fears are well founded. We have only avoided this outcome through dumb luck. The fewer states that have them the better, especially unstable ones.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It is about opportunity and long term interests.

N Korea has nukes. That is the reminder as to why Iran must NOT obtain them.

Numerous members of the Manhattan project and Einstein himself all wished they had not unleashed the power of the atom bomb, they realized that they may have contributed to the end of human civilization at some point in the future.

Their fears are well founded. We have only avoided this outcome through dumb luck. The fewer states that have them the better, especially unstable ones.

Iran has been "2 weeks away" for the past 30 ******* years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You cannot be serious

Stop snorting the KoolAid

 

[shockedcanadian]

Iran has been "2 weeks away" for the past 30 ******* years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You cannot be serious

Stop snorting the KoolAid

It is more complicated than that and surely you understand this.

 

[MisterBeale]

N Korea has nukes. That is the reminder as to why Iran must NOT obtain them.

The fact that N. Korea has had nukes for some time, and the situation on that peninsula has not changed, is actually an argument as to why this war did not need to happen.

 

[Robert W]

Well ... all of those Iranians except the dead school girls. Maybe they can kiss daddy's ring in the afterlife.

Are you still trying to be the Streicher of the internet? Joining with JoeB131.