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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
 

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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
So are you backing Iran, while they chant "Death to America"???
 

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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
It is truly fascinating to sit back and watch how hard and how far Trump-haters will go to blame virtually anything and everything on Trump...
 

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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
I'm old enough to remember when America-Haters blindly supported Russia, not Iran.
 

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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
Just another example of "SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED.....IT'S TRUMP'S FAULT!!!!"
 

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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that?
Thank Gawd you people are not in control. The density of your skulls is phenomenal.
 

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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb.

Wow!!
That's a load of crap.
 

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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
I'm old enough to remember when America-Haters blindly supported Russia, not Iran.
So you were born yesterday?
 

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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb.

Wow!!
That's a load of crap.
How many nukes does Iran have?
 

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This was an act of war by Iran. It's time for America to drop some bombs.
 

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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb.

Wow!!
That's a load of crap.
How many nukes does Iran have?
Hopefully none.
 
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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
So are you backing Iran, while they chant "Death to America"???
No, where did you get that idea?
 
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On Sunday night, our ever responsible President, Donald Trump, tweeted this:

"Saudi Arabia oil supply was attacked. There is reason to believe that we know the culprit, are locked and loaded depending on verification, but are waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!"

Ignoring the awkward syntax for the moment -- the English language is not Trump's long suit -- Trump threatened war. The words "locked and loaded" directly imply that weapons are, uh, locked and loaded to be delivered at the push of a button.

Except it doesn't! See, what the President meant by saying "locked and loaded" actually had nothing at all to do with a threat of military strike! Not at all!

"I think that 'locked and loaded' is a broad term and talks about the realities that we're all far safer and more secure domestically from energy independence," said Vice President Mike Pence's chief of staff Marc Short on Monday morning. :roflol:
 
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July 30, 2018: With respect to talks with Iran, asked if he would have pre-conditions for a meeting, Trump said, "No pre-conditions. No. If they want to meet, I'll meet. Anytime they want. Anytime they want. It's good for the country, good for them, good for us, and good for the world. No pre-conditions. If they want to meet, I'll meet."

June 23, 2019: Chuck Todd, host of NBC's "Meet the Press," asked him, "No pre-conditions?" Trump responded, "Not as far as I'm concerned. No pre-conditions."

June 23, 2019: Vice President Mike Pence told CNN's Jake Tapper, "The President of the United States has made it clear we're prepared to talk to Iran without pre-conditions."

September 10, 2019: Appearing together at a press briefing, Mnuchin and Pompeo said within moments of each other that Trump was willing to meet with Iran with "no pre-conditions."

September 15, 2019. In a tweet on Sunday, Trump said, "The Fake News is saying that I am willing to meet with Iran, 'No Conditions.' That is an incorrect statement (as usual!)."

That's our President. People who voted for him have to be truly embarrassed.
 

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This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.
No, but there is circumstantial evidence. And they definitely came from somewhere. By deduction,it appears most likely they came from Iran.

But, since trump has zero credibility, they probably will need ago make a stronger case, than if a normal human were president.
 
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Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back. The communist dictator of Russia, Vladimir Putin, was pleased with Trump's decision.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

"ANKARA (Reuters) - The leaders of Turkey, Russia and Iran meeting in Ankara on Monday agreed to try to ease tensions in northwest Syria’s Idlib region."

 

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Did Trump's arbitrary decision in May 2018 cause the Saudi oil refinery attack? Ironically, if Trump's secretary of state is right, the answer is an unequivocal "yes."

The New York Times reports, "Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.

"The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil."

According to the Guardian, "The attack reduced production by five million barrels a day – nearly half the kingdom’s output and 5% of global production – according to unnamed Saudi oil ministry sources quoted by the Reuters news agency last night. The reduction will go on for at least 48 hours reports said."

Trump's secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, blames Iran. "Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply."

Pompeo also said there was nothing to back the Houthi claim of responsibility. "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," Pompeo said.

This begs a question. Is there proof the attacks came from Iran? The answer is no.

There you have it. Officially, the Trump administration blames Iran for the attack.

Mr. Trump, however, did not name Iran, saying he needed to consult with Saudi Arabia first, the New York Times.

Now why is that? Could it be Trump knows exactly where the blame lies if Iran retaliated?

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American UAV that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this.

Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the U.S. and the Saudi royal family have vital business relationships with the Trump Organization. Iran is not able to strike at the American heartland and it would not be prudent to do so.

However, Saudi Arabia is well within range and the Saudi oil refineries are juicy, highly relevant targets that strike at the very heart of the Saudi/American relationship.

If Iran is responsible for this attack, there is a direct link between the attack and Trump's rueful decision in May 2018.
well that's a well written piece of misinformation you posted there bro..

however, Trump and those supporting a harder line against Iran have been crystal clear, and i have to agree with them, that

(A) Iran is invited to re-negotiate a stricter set of conditions for re-enabling a 'nuclear deal'
(B) Iran has to stop supporting terror groups in the region

both of these stricter conditions for easing of sanctions, i support.

Iran is trying to wriggle out of the sanctions now imposed on them. Your misinformation piece would deceive any young teenager, but not the better informed (young) adults.

While i was happy with the existing nuclear deal, and would have preferred a much more targeted set of sanctions (higher economy, military, clergy), rather than the current type of sanctions which target the entire Iranian economy and thus foster decisive motivation among *all* Iranians to "wriggle" and engage in more bad behavior rather than less,
i feel we now, at least until Trump has been re-elected or not, need to act according to my views as expressed and detailed here : Gabbard: Trump offers to Pimp out our Military to his Saudi masters
 
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