Did Jephthah actually slay his daughter?

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Not that the anti's will take any of it to heart as it would destroy their argument BS. It still needs to be noted for the record what it means to sacrifice something wholly to God.


Jephthah of Gilead ("May God Open; God Has Opened" known as chief of the robbers, a champion and a judge in Israel who helps break the yoke of the Ammonites whose king is Baasha "offensive - wickedness" son of Ahijah "Brother of Yah" the Shiloni = "The Secularists") whose daughter = "bethel (worship local)" a host brought forth is sacrificed to the Lord, Judges 11:31; Jephthah's daughter is put away into permanent celibacy in this case a female host/portion completely and wholly consecrated to the Lord (no side shows, agendas or purpose). This is Adah Sheula = "A Beautiful Binding, or Binding Ornament (first daughter)", a female Aqedah = "binding", male version of this would be named Akita. This particular host is a first learning/experience/vow. Lamentation is made because from that first no more host can be built up in that portion of this lineage of host as Jephthah's vow is to sacrifice it to God alone. If we keep in mind Jephthah's role as a host that fights for the spirit of the Son and that he is born from harlotry it should start to make sense for those who have been given eyes to see and ears to hear.

The tragedy Jephthah is that of being a host born of harlotry from Gilead's Harlot (that harlot is a portion/host in the hosts Gideon's consciousness [an err of idolatry/harlotry/vanity/wickedness], this host brought forth also made the err of giving credence/glory/place of any kind to the Moabite God Chemosh which is mentioned in the text) along with his wife, Peninnah "coral or a pearl (A face- meaning a piece a portion of the consciousness, a gem, a bit of wisdom)" and Hannah "hope", sons (Judges II; I Samuel I; I Kings 3) the legitimate wife bore him and when his wife's sons grow up they drive Jephthah away saying to him, “you shall not inherit anything in our father's house for you are the son of another woman” (female host capable of bringing forth new hosts). Jephthah takes up his dwelling in Tob, east of Gilead = "rocky regions"; "Outlaws collect around Jephthah to go out raiding with him." Jephthah is compelled to battle the Ephraimites, who refuse to aid him in the struggle against the Ammonites. The fugitive Ephraimites who are identified by their accent since they said the Hebrew word shibboleth as sibboleth (A shibboleth is any custom or tradition, usually a choice of phrasing, platitude, slogan, truism or even a single word, that distinguishes one group of people from another, a common or longstanding belief, custom, or catchphrase associated with a particular group, especially one with little current meaning or truth. Shibboleth
(šibbolet, “ear of wheat”), with reference to Judges 12:5-6: At that time 42,000 of the Ephraimite hosts fell, as Gilead cuts Ephraim off from the fords of the Jordan.
 
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This is one of several places in scripture that a vow has led to tragedy.
 

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Human sacrifice is against Mosaic law; no way to follow up on his vow if he were a true believer. It's possible that as a Syrian he wouldn't have known that, since human sacrifices were the norm among Syrians, Phoenicians and other pagans, so, either the passage is mis-read and the burnt offering was not meant to be the first human to greet him, which would have been a family member, or this was just another case of someone begging God and the angels for a sin, a very common thing, people hoping to make 'deals' for personal gain, much like the people who go in for the 'prosperity gospel' peddled by some con artists. Imo there is no doubt he was offering a human sacrifice.
 

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Not that the anti's will take any of it to heart as it would destroy their argument BS. It still needs to be noted for the record what it means to sacrifice something wholly to God.


Jephthah of Gilead ("May God Open; God Has Opened" known as chief of the robbers, a champion and a judge in Israel who helps break the yoke of the Ammonites whose king is Baasha "offensive - wickedness" son of Ahijah "Brother of Yah" the Shiloni = "The Secularists") whose daughter = "bethel (worship local)" a host brought forth is sacrificed to the Lord, Judges 11:31; Jephthah's daughter is put away into permanent celibacy in this case a female host/portion completely and wholly consecrated to the Lord (no side shows, agendas or purpose). This is Adah Sheula = "A Beautiful Binding, or Binding Ornament (first daughter)", a female Aqedah = "binding", male version of this would be named Akita. This particular host is a first learning/experience/vow. Lamentation is made because from that first no more host can be built up in that portion of this lineage of host as Jephthah's vow is to sacrifice it to God alone. If we keep in mind Jephthah's role as a host that fights for the spirit of the Son and that he is born from harlotry it should start to make sense for those who have been given eyes to see and ears to hear.

The tragedy Jephthah is that of being a host born of harlotry from Gilead's Harlot (that harlot is a portion/host in the hosts Gideon's consciousness [an err of idolatry/harlotry/vanity/wickedness], this host brought forth also made the err of giving credence/glory/place of any kind to the Moabite God Chemosh which is mentioned in the text) along with his wife, Peninnah "coral or a pearl (A face- meaning a piece a portion of the consciousness, a gem, a bit of wisdom)" and Hannah "hope", sons (Judges II; I Samuel I; I Kings 3) the legitimate wife bore him and when his wife's sons grow up they drive Jephthah away saying to him, “you shall not inherit anything in our father's house for you are the son of another woman” (female host capable of bringing forth new hosts). Jephthah takes up his dwelling in Tob, east of Gilead = "rocky regions"; "Outlaws collect around Jephthah to go out raiding with him." Jephthah is compelled to battle the Ephraimites, who refuse to aid him in the struggle against the Ammonites. The fugitive Ephraimites who are identified by their accent since they said the Hebrew word shibboleth as sibboleth (A shibboleth is any custom or tradition, usually a choice of phrasing, platitude, slogan, truism or even a single word, that distinguishes one group of people from another, a common or longstanding belief, custom, or catchphrase associated with a particular group, especially one with little current meaning or truth. Shibboleth
(šibbolet, “ear of wheat”), with reference to Judges 12:5-6: At that time 42,000 of the Ephraimite hosts fell, as Gilead cuts Ephraim off from the fords of the Jordan.

Moses said that after his death the people would turn aside from the way that he taught to follow the law, imitate the practices of the people of the land they were going to, and become utterly corrupted.


Maybe that has something to do with it?
 
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Not that the anti's will take any of it to heart as it would destroy their argument BS. It still needs to be noted for the record what it means to sacrifice something wholly to God.


Jephthah of Gilead ("May God Open; God Has Opened" known as chief of the robbers, a champion and a judge in Israel who helps break the yoke of the Ammonites whose king is Baasha "offensive - wickedness" son of Ahijah "Brother of Yah" the Shiloni = "The Secularists") whose daughter = "bethel (worship local)" a host brought forth is sacrificed to the Lord, Judges 11:31; Jephthah's daughter is put away into permanent celibacy in this case a female host/portion completely and wholly consecrated to the Lord (no side shows, agendas or purpose). This is Adah Sheula = "A Beautiful Binding, or Binding Ornament (first daughter)", a female Aqedah = "binding", male version of this would be named Akita. This particular host is a first learning/experience/vow. Lamentation is made because from that first no more host can be built up in that portion of this lineage of host as Jephthah's vow is to sacrifice it to God alone. If we keep in mind Jephthah's role as a host that fights for the spirit of the Son and that he is born from harlotry it should start to make sense for those who have been given eyes to see and ears to hear.

The tragedy Jephthah is that of being a host born of harlotry from Gilead's Harlot (that harlot is a portion/host in the hosts Gideon's consciousness [an err of idolatry/harlotry/vanity/wickedness], this host brought forth also made the err of giving credence/glory/place of any kind to the Moabite God Chemosh which is mentioned in the text) along with his wife, Peninnah "coral or a pearl (A face- meaning a piece a portion of the consciousness, a gem, a bit of wisdom)" and Hannah "hope", sons (Judges II; I Samuel I; I Kings 3) the legitimate wife bore him and when his wife's sons grow up they drive Jephthah away saying to him, “you shall not inherit anything in our father's house for you are the son of another woman” (female host capable of bringing forth new hosts). Jephthah takes up his dwelling in Tob, east of Gilead = "rocky regions"; "Outlaws collect around Jephthah to go out raiding with him." Jephthah is compelled to battle the Ephraimites, who refuse to aid him in the struggle against the Ammonites. The fugitive Ephraimites who are identified by their accent since they said the Hebrew word shibboleth as sibboleth (A shibboleth is any custom or tradition, usually a choice of phrasing, platitude, slogan, truism or even a single word, that distinguishes one group of people from another, a common or longstanding belief, custom, or catchphrase associated with a particular group, especially one with little current meaning or truth. Shibboleth
(šibbolet, “ear of wheat”), with reference to Judges 12:5-6: At that time 42,000 of the Ephraimite hosts fell, as Gilead cuts Ephraim off from the fords of the Jordan.

Moses said that after his death the people would turn aside from the way that he taught to follow the law, imitate the practices of the people of the land they were going to, and become utterly corrupted.


Maybe that has something to do with it?
Perhaps that has to do also with Pharaoh putting the lowest of the land over the people? They are given over time and time again to their own ways until they turn and walk away from wickedness and seek Him in truth. Yet you have some like exhibited right here on this forum that prefer darkness over light and refuse to seek sound knowledge for it is not convenient for them to do so.
 

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Not that the anti's will take any of it to heart as it would destroy their argument BS. It still needs to be noted for the record what it means to sacrifice something wholly to God.


Jephthah of Gilead ("May God Open; God Has Opened" known as chief of the robbers, a champion and a judge in Israel who helps break the yoke of the Ammonites whose king is Baasha "offensive - wickedness" son of Ahijah "Brother of Yah" the Shiloni = "The Secularists") whose daughter = "bethel (worship local)" a host brought forth is sacrificed to the Lord, Judges 11:31; Jephthah's daughter is put away into permanent celibacy in this case a female host/portion completely and wholly consecrated to the Lord (no side shows, agendas or purpose). This is Adah Sheula = "A Beautiful Binding, or Binding Ornament (first daughter)", a female Aqedah = "binding", male version of this would be named Akita. This particular host is a first learning/experience/vow. Lamentation is made because from that first no more host can be built up in that portion of this lineage of host as Jephthah's vow is to sacrifice it to God alone. If we keep in mind Jephthah's role as a host that fights for the spirit of the Son and that he is born from harlotry it should start to make sense for those who have been given eyes to see and ears to hear.

The tragedy Jephthah is that of being a host born of harlotry from Gilead's Harlot (that harlot is a portion/host in the hosts Gideon's consciousness [an err of idolatry/harlotry/vanity/wickedness], this host brought forth also made the err of giving credence/glory/place of any kind to the Moabite God Chemosh which is mentioned in the text) along with his wife, Peninnah "coral or a pearl (A face- meaning a piece a portion of the consciousness, a gem, a bit of wisdom)" and Hannah "hope", sons (Judges II; I Samuel I; I Kings 3) the legitimate wife bore him and when his wife's sons grow up they drive Jephthah away saying to him, “you shall not inherit anything in our father's house for you are the son of another woman” (female host capable of bringing forth new hosts). Jephthah takes up his dwelling in Tob, east of Gilead = "rocky regions"; "Outlaws collect around Jephthah to go out raiding with him." Jephthah is compelled to battle the Ephraimites, who refuse to aid him in the struggle against the Ammonites. The fugitive Ephraimites who are identified by their accent since they said the Hebrew word shibboleth as sibboleth (A shibboleth is any custom or tradition, usually a choice of phrasing, platitude, slogan, truism or even a single word, that distinguishes one group of people from another, a common or longstanding belief, custom, or catchphrase associated with a particular group, especially one with little current meaning or truth. Shibboleth
(šibbolet, “ear of wheat”), with reference to Judges 12:5-6: At that time 42,000 of the Ephraimite hosts fell, as Gilead cuts Ephraim off from the fords of the Jordan.

Moses said that after his death the people would turn aside from the way that he taught to follow the law, imitate the practices of the people of the land they were going to, and become utterly corrupted.


Maybe that has something to do with it?
Perhaps that has to do also with Pharaoh putting the lowest of the land over the people? They are given over time and time again to their own ways until they turn and walk away from wickedness and seek Him in truth. Yet you have some like exhibited right here on this forum that prefer darkness over light and refuse to seek sound knowledge for it is not convenient for them to do so.
You are trying to justify human sacrifice.

Do I really need to say any thing else?
 
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Not that the anti's will take any of it to heart as it would destroy their argument BS. It still needs to be noted for the record what it means to sacrifice something wholly to God.


Jephthah of Gilead ("May God Open; God Has Opened" known as chief of the robbers, a champion and a judge in Israel who helps break the yoke of the Ammonites whose king is Baasha "offensive - wickedness" son of Ahijah "Brother of Yah" the Shiloni = "The Secularists") whose daughter = "bethel (worship local)" a host brought forth is sacrificed to the Lord, Judges 11:31; Jephthah's daughter is put away into permanent celibacy in this case a female host/portion completely and wholly consecrated to the Lord (no side shows, agendas or purpose). This is Adah Sheula = "A Beautiful Binding, or Binding Ornament (first daughter)", a female Aqedah = "binding", male version of this would be named Akita. This particular host is a first learning/experience/vow. Lamentation is made because from that first no more host can be built up in that portion of this lineage of host as Jephthah's vow is to sacrifice it to God alone. If we keep in mind Jephthah's role as a host that fights for the spirit of the Son and that he is born from harlotry it should start to make sense for those who have been given eyes to see and ears to hear.

The tragedy Jephthah is that of being a host born of harlotry from Gilead's Harlot (that harlot is a portion/host in the hosts Gideon's consciousness [an err of idolatry/harlotry/vanity/wickedness], this host brought forth also made the err of giving credence/glory/place of any kind to the Moabite God Chemosh which is mentioned in the text) along with his wife, Peninnah "coral or a pearl (A face- meaning a piece a portion of the consciousness, a gem, a bit of wisdom)" and Hannah "hope", sons (Judges II; I Samuel I; I Kings 3) the legitimate wife bore him and when his wife's sons grow up they drive Jephthah away saying to him, “you shall not inherit anything in our father's house for you are the son of another woman” (female host capable of bringing forth new hosts). Jephthah takes up his dwelling in Tob, east of Gilead = "rocky regions"; "Outlaws collect around Jephthah to go out raiding with him." Jephthah is compelled to battle the Ephraimites, who refuse to aid him in the struggle against the Ammonites. The fugitive Ephraimites who are identified by their accent since they said the Hebrew word shibboleth as sibboleth (A shibboleth is any custom or tradition, usually a choice of phrasing, platitude, slogan, truism or even a single word, that distinguishes one group of people from another, a common or longstanding belief, custom, or catchphrase associated with a particular group, especially one with little current meaning or truth. Shibboleth
(šibbolet, “ear of wheat”), with reference to Judges 12:5-6: At that time 42,000 of the Ephraimite hosts fell, as Gilead cuts Ephraim off from the fords of the Jordan.

Moses said that after his death the people would turn aside from the way that he taught to follow the law, imitate the practices of the people of the land they were going to, and become utterly corrupted.


Maybe that has something to do with it?
Perhaps that has to do also with Pharaoh putting the lowest of the land over the people? They are given over time and time again to their own ways until they turn and walk away from wickedness and seek Him in truth. Yet you have some like exhibited right here on this forum that prefer darkness over light and refuse to seek sound knowledge for it is not convenient for them to do so.
You are trying to justify human sacrifice.

Do I really need to say any thing else?
"Justify human sacrifice"? How is that? What are you referencing? That spiritual host is given strictly to glorify God and no other, did you miss that part? Perhaps I did not explain it plain enough. People sacrifice themselves as far as when they give themselves over to wickedness and ignorance.
 
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Canaanites = "buy, sell (merchants & traffickers)"
They can also represent all humanity, or the people of the land of milk and honey. They represent many things, depending on context and the book they're used in. My reference is to the practice of human sacrifice; it's reviled by Jews, and also by Romans, oddly enough; Romans hated Druids, Carthaginians, and any other pagan peoples who practiced human sacrifice.
 
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Canaanites = "buy, sell (merchants & traffickers)"
They can also represent all humanity, or the people of the land of milk and honey. They represent many things, depending on context and the book they're used in. My reference is to the practice of human sacrifice; it's reviled by Jews, and also by Romans, oddly enough; Romans hated Druids, Carthaginians, and any other pagan peoples who practiced human sacrifice.
Giving up a heavenly or earthly host totally to the glory of God within oneself is not human sacrifice.
 

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Canaanites = "buy, sell (merchants & traffickers)"
They can also represent all humanity, or the people of the land of milk and honey. They represent many things, depending on context and the book they're used in. My reference is to the practice of human sacrifice; it's reviled by Jews, and also by Romans, oddly enough; Romans hated Druids, Carthaginians, and any other pagan peoples who practiced human sacrifice.
Giving up a heavenly or earthly host totally to the glory of God within oneself is not human sacrifice.
God raised the host for good reasons, none having anything to do with the vow. It served a strategic purpose. It's an allegorical story, anyway.
 

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Canaanites = "buy, sell (merchants & traffickers)"
Bottom line: you engage in too much word-to-word Hebrew translation and therefore overlay meaning into Scripture that's not intended to be there. Reading too much into to and making meaning where none is intended. We are cautioned to meditate deeply on Scripture but not to overlay our own interpretation on it or to make meaning where there is none--to "add to" as it were. Make connections, look deeply, find meaning, but do not MAKE meaning.
 
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Canaanites = "buy, sell (merchants & traffickers)"
Bottom line: you engage in too much word-to-word Hebrew translation and therefore overlay meaning into Scripture that's not intended to be there. Reading too much into to and making meaning where none is intended. We are cautioned to meditate deeply on Scripture but not to overlay our own interpretation on it or to make meaning where there is none--to "add to" as it were. Make connections, look deeply, find meaning, but do not MAKE meaning.
If you really are a teacher I feel somewhat sorry for your students because from all appearances in this forum ignorance abounds in you and with you.
 

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Canaanites = "buy, sell (merchants & traffickers)"
Bottom line: you engage in too much word-to-word Hebrew translation and therefore overlay meaning into Scripture that's not intended to be there. Reading too much into to and making meaning where none is intended. We are cautioned to meditate deeply on Scripture but not to overlay our own interpretation on it or to make meaning where there is none--to "add to" as it were. Make connections, look deeply, find meaning, but do not MAKE meaning.
If you really are a teacher I feel somewhat sorry for your students because from all appearances in this forum ignorance abounds in you and with you.
The personal attacks have no effect on me. Are part of a "Holy Name" movement or what is this?
 
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Canaanites = "buy, sell (merchants & traffickers)"
Bottom line: you engage in too much word-to-word Hebrew translation and therefore overlay meaning into Scripture that's not intended to be there. Reading too much into to and making meaning where none is intended. We are cautioned to meditate deeply on Scripture but not to overlay our own interpretation on it or to make meaning where there is none--to "add to" as it were. Make connections, look deeply, find meaning, but do not MAKE meaning.
If you really are a teacher I feel somewhat sorry for your students because from all appearances in this forum ignorance abounds in you and with you.
The personal attacks have no effect on me. Are part of a "Holy Name" movement or what is this?
You are a busy body judgmental twit that obviously cannot look in the mirror to well. Do you even think before you write something? You made a claim about me and you do not know me or really much about me other than a few posts on this forum. You are a troll of the worst kind pretending to be something you are not.
 

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