Zone1 Did Feminism bring about the downfall of humanity?

[Woodznutz]

What proof do you have of that?

Examine the language and the narrative carefully, all the way up to the birth of Cain and Abel. I use the KJV and Strong's in my research, also secular sources.

 

[theHawk]

Examine the language and the narrative carefully, all the way up to the birth of Cain and Abel. I use the KJV and Strong's in my research, also secular sources.

Don‘t care about your personal translation. The KVJ does not say it was a “serpent within”.

Genesis 2:2 clearly says that Eve responded to the snake with speech.

2 The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, 3 but as for the fruit of the tree in the midst of the garden, God said that we must not eat it, nor even touch it, lest we die.”

The satan is Hebrew for “the adversary” or “the accuser” who in the book of Job was allowed by God to test man because the satan claimed man was not worthy.


You sound like a Bible pervert who bends the meaning of words to fit your agenda.

 

[Woodznutz]

Don‘t care about your personal translation. The KVJ does not say it was a “serpent within”.

Genesis 2:2 clearly says that Eve responded to the snake with speech.

2 The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, 3 but as for the fruit of the tree in the midst of the garden, God said that we must not eat it, nor even touch it, lest we die.”

The satan is Hebrew for “the adversary” or “the accuser” who in the book of Job was allowed by God to test man because the satan claimed man was not worthy.


You sound like a Bible pervert who bends the meaning of words to fit your agenda.

Let's start with this.
Snakes don't eat dirt, although some dirt might be on the creatures that they do eat. Women everywhere eat dirt, in fact there are companies that make and sell dirt for them to eat. So when God said "you shall eat dirt", who was he talking to?

 

[Woodznutz]

You sound like a Bible pervert who bends the meaning of words to fit your agenda.

I search for the real meanings of words that don't seem to make sense. For example, Eve gave the fruit to Adam is a poor choice of words considering the whole narrative. The Hebrew offers put upon (nagged) as a better choice.

Perhaps the translators didn't want to offend their wives by using the more appropriate phrase. So maybe they were as intimidated as was Adam.

 

[theHawk]

Let's start with this.
Snakes don't eat dirt, although some dirt might be on the creatures that they do eat. Women everywhere eat dirt, in fact there are companies that make and sell dirt for them to eat. So when God said "you shall eat dirt", who was he talking to?

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^^ More perversion.


“Because you have done this, you will be the most cursed
of all the animals
and of all the wild beasts.
On your belly you shall crawl
and you shall eat dust
for all the days of your life.
15 I will establish hostility
between you and the woman,
between your line and her line.
Her offspring will crush your head
and you will bruise his heel.”[d]


God clearly distinctly speaks to the serpent, then the woman and man separately.

What kind of Christian are you claiming to be?

 

[theHawk]

I search for the real meanings of words that don't seem to make sense. For example, Eve gave the fruit to Adam is a poor choice of words considering the whole narrative. The Hebrew offers put upon (nagged) as a better choice.

Perhaps the translators didn't want to offend their wives by using the more appropriate phrase. So maybe they were as intimidated as was Adam.

^^ more lies. No such word was used.

Hebrew Concordance: wat·tit·tên -- 21 Occurrences

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[Woodznutz]

worthy.


You sound like a Bible pervert who bends the meaning of words to fit your agenda.

It's the translators that bend the meanings of words to fit their agenda. Thankfully we can refer to the original languages.

 

[the other mike]

We all know the story, but here is the text:


Genesis 3:
3 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

….

Then when God later spoke to Adam about this:


17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’


.———————————————-

So the woman decided to empower herself, that she should determine what is right and wrong. She didn’t need a man or God to tell her what to do. So she did what she wanted. Does this not describe modern day feminism perfectly? Woman know what is best for them, they can determine what is right in wrong. Like it is okay to kill her own baby if she wants to, that is not a sin in the eyes of a feminist.

But equally as guilty is Adam. Who stood there and did nothing when the snake was lying to Eve, and he did nothing when she reached for the fruit. Then he even ate it himself. Does this not describe the ”feminist man” of today? The man who allows the woman to walk all over him, allows the woman to do whatever she wants. He was supposed to be a masculine man, firstly he should had attacked the snake when it started spewing its lies. Then he should had told the woman not to eat the fruit. He did neither. Then on top of that he ate the fruit himself.

It pretty much symbolizes exactly what is going on in the modern world with feminism. Women do what they want, and a whole much of liberal and cucked men go along with it. This sin of rebuking God and making up your own morality is called PRIDE, which is not so coincidentally celebrated for an entire month now in our country. Just as it originally brought down humanity, feminism is now bringing about the collapse of Western Civilization.

I dare you to tell Sarah Huckabee Sanders that
.

 

[theHawk]

I dare you to tell Sarah Huckabee Sanders that
.

She’s free to read this thread.

 

[Woodznutz]

^^ More perversion.


“Because you have done this, you will be the most cursed
of all the animals
and of all the wild beasts.
On your belly you shall crawl
and you shall eat dust
for all the days of your life.
15 I will establish hostility
between you and the woman,
between your line and her line.
Her offspring will crush your head
and you will bruise his heel.”[d]


God clearly distinctly speaks to the serpent, then the woman and man separately.

What kind of Christian are you claiming to be?

When Jesus chided Peter, why did he call him Satan?
And when Satan entered Judas Iscariot what form did he take?
And when others were possessed of demons did little snakes (the bad seed) crawl inside of them?

And how did literally giving birth (belly in Hebrew) become crawling on your belly?

Clearly God was "hiding a thing". (Does this mean that I'm a...King?)

I gotta have some fun with this stuff.

 

[the other mike]

She’s free to read this thread.

I'll email her.

 

[Woodznutz]

^^ more lies. No such word was used.

Hebrew Concordance: wat·tit·tên -- 21 Occurrences

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From Strong's Hebrew dictionary.

Gave: to give, put, set

1. (Qal)
   1. to give, bestow, grant, permit, ascribe, employ, devote, consecrate, dedicate, pay wages, sell, exchange, lend, commit, entrust, give over, deliver up, yield produce, occasion, produce, requite to, report, mention, utter, stretch out, extend
   2. to put, set, put on, put upon, set, appoint, assign, designate
   3. to make, constitute
2. (Niphal)
   1. to be given, be bestowed, be provided, be entrusted to, be granted to, be permitted, be issued, be published, be uttered, be assigned
   2. to be set, be put, be made, be inflicted
3. (Hophal)

The same word means caused in Hebrew. Eve caused Adam to eat the fruit. Adam listened to and obeyed (hearkened to) Eve's nagging.

 

[theHawk]

From Strong's Hebrew dictionary.

Gave: to give, put, set

1. (Qal)
   1. to give, bestow, grant, permit, ascribe, employ, devote, consecrate, dedicate, pay wages, sell, exchange, lend, commit, entrust, give over, deliver up, yield produce, occasion, produce, requite to, report, mention, utter, stretch out, extend
   2. to put, set, put on, put upon, set, appoint, assign, designate
   3. to make, constitute
2. (Niphal)
   1. to be given, be bestowed, be provided, be entrusted to, be granted to, be permitted, be issued, be published, be uttered, be assigned
   2. to be set, be put, be made, be inflicted
3. (Hophal)

The same word means caused in Hebrew. Eve caused Adam to eat the fruit. Adam listened to and obeyed (hearkened to) Eve's nagging.

This is a lame attempt to put all the blame on Eve. Adam was there and did nothing while the snake spewed its lies. He then disobeyed God and ate the fruit, even if Eve “nagged him” which isn’t in the Bible. She gave it to him. Stick to the facts.

 

[Woodznutz]

This is a lame attempt to put all the blame on Eve. Adam was there and did nothing while the snake spewed its lies. He then disobeyed God and ate the fruit, even if Eve “nagged him” which isn’t in the Bible. She gave it to him. Stick to the facts.

Of course, he shares the blame, but not equally. Eve was deceived, Adam wasn't, thus his hesitancy and the need for Eve to badger (plead) him into eating the fruit. His motive for eating it wasn't the same as Eve's. Adam was the God/Christ figure, Eve was the Lucifer figure in this reinactiment of the original rebellion. Eve would have died for her sins. Adam would have died a sacrificial death for her.

 

[theHawk]

Of course, he shares the blame, but not equally. Eve was deceived, Adam wasn't, thus his hesitancy and the need for Eve to badger him into eating the fruit. His motive for eating it wasn't the same as Eve's.

Adam was charged with protecting the Garden. He failed to do so. He allowed evil to come into his domain and spread lies. Of course women are more susceptible to lies, that is evident today. The point is that he is supposed to keep watch and prevent these things. Same problem we have today, cucked out men don’t want to offend women so they go along with their bullshit.

 

[Woodznutz]

Adam was charged with protecting the Garden. He failed to do so. He allowed evil to come into his domain and spread lies. Of course women are more susceptible to lies, that is evident today. The point is that he is supposed to keep watch and prevent these things. Same problem we have today, cucked out men don’t want to offend women so they go along with their bullshit.

God allowed Satan access to Eve. Adam couldn't have prevented it. Anyway, the whole scene was scripted by God to happen just the way it did.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We all know the story, but here is the text:


Genesis 3:
3 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

….

Then when God later spoke to Adam about this:


17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’


.———————————————-

So the woman decided to empower herself, that she should determine what is right and wrong. She didn’t need a man or God to tell her what to do. So she did what she wanted. Does this not describe modern day feminism perfectly? Woman know what is best for them, they can determine what is right in wrong. Like it is okay to kill her own baby if she wants to, that is not a sin in the eyes of a feminist.

But equally as guilty is Adam. Who stood there and did nothing when the snake was lying to Eve, and he did nothing when she reached for the fruit. Then he even ate it himself. Does this not describe the ”feminist man” of today? The man who allows the woman to walk all over him, allows the woman to do whatever she wants. He was supposed to be a masculine man, firstly he should had attacked the snake when it started spewing its lies. Then he should had told the woman not to eat the fruit. He did neither. Then on top of that he ate the fruit himself.

It pretty much symbolizes exactly what is going on in the modern world with feminism. Women do what they want, and a whole much of liberal and cucked men go along with it. This sin of rebuking God and making up your own morality is called PRIDE, which is not so coincidentally celebrated for an entire month now in our country. Just as it originally brought down humanity, feminism is now bringing about the collapse of Western Civilization.

jethrohawk, shut your beak.

 

[theHawk]

God allowed Satan access to Eve. Adam couldn't have prevented it. Anyway, the whole scene was scripted by God to happen just the way it did.

That’s true, he did allow it, and Adam and Eve both failed the test.

 

[Libby von H]

We all know the story, but here is the text:


Genesis 3:
3 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

….

Then when God later spoke to Adam about this:


17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’


.———————————————-

So the woman decided to empower herself, that she should determine what is right and wrong. She didn’t need a man or God to tell her what to do. So she did what she wanted. Does this not describe modern day feminism perfectly? Woman know what is best for them, they can determine what is right in wrong. Like it is okay to kill her own baby if she wants to, that is not a sin in the eyes of a feminist.

But equally as guilty is Adam. Who stood there and did nothing when the snake was lying to Eve, and he did nothing when she reached for the fruit. Then he even ate it himself. Does this not describe the ”feminist man” of today? The man who allows the woman to walk all over him, allows the woman to do whatever she wants. He was supposed to be a masculine man, firstly he should had attacked the snake when it started spewing its lies. Then he should had told the woman not to eat the fruit. He did neither. Then on top of that he ate the fruit himself.

It pretty much symbolizes exactly what is going on in the modern world with feminism. Women do what they want, and a whole much of liberal and cucked men go along with it. This sin of rebuking God and making up your own morality is called PRIDE, which is not so coincidentally celebrated for an entire month now in our country. Just as it originally brought down humanity, feminism is now bringing about the collapse of Western Civilization.

BUT you start at the wrong place. Before anything, anything at all, the next one you meet, male or female, is a PERSON

That pericope does not blame Eve for being a woman, that is the very falsity you claim to fight!!
And in Jewish lore and theology Adam was the more guilty.
The feminism you lament is hate masking as feminism, why are FAR MORE female babies killed than male, in the tens of millions worldwide. Because those 'feminists' want to be considered another form of 'male'. See, I am willing to kill other so-called 'females', so let me be a knock-off male.

 

[Woodznutz]

Woman progressing out of the house has been a positive for the nation. They're in the workforce and some aren't getting married or having kids. Good for them if that's what they want.

Women 'progressing' out of the house has caused the downfall of the home.