Indeependent
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Like 2 pointless impreachments?Yeah... for every million votes cast, two or three weren't right... yep... let's spend $500,000,000 to get that sorted !!!
DeSantis Proposes Creation of Department to Investigate and Prosecute Voter Fraud
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Tumblin Tumbleweed
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To arrest magaturds and put them somewhere.
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Collectively, Trump Republicans are quite funny. They often make complete fools of themselves.
The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity (PEIC or PACEI), also called the Voter Fraud Commission, was a Presidential Commission established by Donald Trump that ran from May 11, 2017 to January 3, 2018.[1][2] The Trump administration said the commission would review claims of voter fraud, improper registration, and voter suppression.[3] The establishment of the commission followed Trump's false claim that millions of illegal immigrants had voted in the 2016 presidential election, costing him the popular vote.[4][5] Vice President Mike Pence was chosen as chair of the commission and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach was its vice chair and day-to-day administrator.
On January 3, 2018, Trump abruptly disbanded the commission; he repeated his baseless claims of election fraud and cited many states' refusal to turn over information as well as the pending lawsuits.[4] The commission found no evidence of voter fraud.
Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity - Wikipedia
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The Lincoln Project is a conservative group, which has long opposed Trump and his Republican allies. It issued a strongly worded statement late on Tuesday following the primary defeat of Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney.
Trump Republicans have largely abondoned conservative principles. The statement essentially said that the Republican Party is no longer a conservative party. It is something else entirely.
Tonight, the nation marks the end of the Republican Party. What remains shares the name and branding of the traditional GOP, but is in fact an authoritarian nationalist cult dedicated only to Donald Trump.
In 2016, Vladimir Putin helped Trump become our President.
"The [Republican] Senate Intelligence Committee reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office." https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...rms-russia-aimed-to-help-trump-in-2016-198171
The cult members don't care. Most of the uninformed educationally challenged members don't know of Putin's role in 2016.
Putin is pleased with his choice because our nation is in turmoil as the former President is embroiled in a number of investigations. They would include White House documents, the Jan. 6 coup attempt to overthrow the elected government, civil and criminal business actions in New York, and Trump's tax returns.
The cult members don't care. Most of the uninformed educationally challenged members don't know of Trump's multiple criminal liabilities, and they don't know they are doing the bidding of the Russian dictator.
All the cult members have one thing in common. They don't know, and they don't want to know. They are not fans of reality, and, beyond the Farm Report, they rarely watch responsible news programming, believing it to be fake news because they report the difficulties faced by their cult leader, Donald Trump.
They believe. That's all they know, and that is all they want to know.
A number of reports involve Trump's many problems with the law. Trump Republicans are a no-show. They don't defend Trump. They don't support Trump.
Their support for their cult leader is based entirely on avoiding what Trump says and does.
The mystery is, why Trump? Why a man with inherited billions? Why an extreme narcissist who doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone except himself?
Trump Republicans have largely abondoned conservative principles. The statement essentially said that the Republican Party is no longer a conservative party. It is something else entirely.
Tonight, the nation marks the end of the Republican Party. What remains shares the name and branding of the traditional GOP, but is in fact an authoritarian nationalist cult dedicated only to Donald Trump.
In 2016, Vladimir Putin helped Trump become our President.
"The [Republican] Senate Intelligence Committee reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office." https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...rms-russia-aimed-to-help-trump-in-2016-198171
The cult members don't care. Most of the uninformed educationally challenged members don't know of Putin's role in 2016.
Putin is pleased with his choice because our nation is in turmoil as the former President is embroiled in a number of investigations. They would include White House documents, the Jan. 6 coup attempt to overthrow the elected government, civil and criminal business actions in New York, and Trump's tax returns.
The cult members don't care. Most of the uninformed educationally challenged members don't know of Trump's multiple criminal liabilities, and they don't know they are doing the bidding of the Russian dictator.
All the cult members have one thing in common. They don't know, and they don't want to know. They are not fans of reality, and, beyond the Farm Report, they rarely watch responsible news programming, believing it to be fake news because they report the difficulties faced by their cult leader, Donald Trump.
They believe. That's all they know, and that is all they want to know.
A number of reports involve Trump's many problems with the law. Trump Republicans are a no-show. They don't defend Trump. They don't support Trump.
Their support for their cult leader is based entirely on avoiding what Trump says and does.
The mystery is, why Trump? Why a man with inherited billions? Why an extreme narcissist who doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone except himself?
Kondor3
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A third stupidity won't change first first two stupidities, will it?
Tumblin Tumbleweed
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Thank you for completely avoiding the point in support of solutions to the problems of magaturds that aren't really problems for the majority of Real Americans.
Indeependent
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Elaborate...
Millions of dollars spent due to emotional disturbance.
FA_Q2
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So you are trying to state that you support both or neither?
Because pointing to other wasted money is not relevant if you are not equating them as the same.
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Maybe send that to the IRS to the IRS to their army of oppressors that are about to destroy the middle class?Yeah... for every million votes cast, two or three weren't right... yep... let's spend $500,000,000 to get that sorted !!!
20 people voted fraudulently.. as convicted felons they had no right to vote. Desantis didn't say whether they voted for Trump or Biden.
Putin is thrilled with you.
20 cases. My word, there is RAMPANT fraud in Florida. I knew Joe Biden won that state.
PoliticalChic
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Kondor3
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FA_Q2
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the funny part is that Trump is not able to send tweets.
Seems your cartoon got it entirely incorrect LOL.
Devils_Advocate
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Voter fraud happens every election but not at a level that many on here believe happens or happened in 2020.
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There is no evidence of Voter Fraud because the FBI and Demonrats got rid of the videos and not a single judge in the country would even look at ANY EVIDENCE presented. Vans full of ballots being trashed and found in ditches.
Question for Democrats : After you destroy the country, how do you plan to rebuild it ???? Answer, YOU DONT HAVE A PLAN but the Deep State does,,,,,Communist police state with total surveillance.
Question for Democrats : After you destroy the country, how do you plan to rebuild it ???? Answer, YOU DONT HAVE A PLAN but the Deep State does,,,,,Communist police state with total surveillance.
Devils_Advocate
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We are already there then!
berg80
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Indeed he is. Ron finds things like the 1st A to be.......well.........inconvenient.
A federal judge invoked “Stranger Things,” Immanuel Kant, and Friedrich Nietzsche in dismantling the state’s defense of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ “Stop Woke Act,” declaring the effort to constrain workplace sensitivity training violates the First and Fourteenth Amendment.
In a 44-page opinion, U.S. District Judge Mark Walker in Tallahassee ruled that the law — formally, the Individual Freedom Act, or IFA — amounts to an attempt by the state of Florida to impose its preferred positions about the existence of systemic racism and sexism on the workplace and public schools.
DeSantis signed the measure in April.
“Florida’s legislators may well find plaintiffs’ speech ‘repugnant.’ But under our constitutional scheme, the ‘remedy’ for repugnant speech is more speech, not enforced silence. Indeed, it is the purpose of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail,” Walker wrote.
“If Florida truly believes we live in a post-racial society, then let it make its case. But it cannot win the argument by muzzling its opponents. Because, without justification, the IFA attacks ideas, not conduct, plaintiffs are substantially likely to succeed on the merits of this lawsuit.”
DeSantis loses another First Amendment fight, this one over 'Stop Woke Act' - Florida Phoenix
A federal judge invoked “Stranger Things,” Immanuel Kant, and Friedrich Nietzsche in dismantling the state’s defense of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ “Stop Woke Act,” declaring the effort to constrain workplace sensitivity training violates the First and Fourteenth Amendment. In a 44-page opinion, U.S...
Rejected — As the summer of litigation for Gov. Ron DeSantis and Florida Republicans continues, a federal appeals court on Monday handed the governor a major setback, nixing a law aimed at large social media companies that barred them from censoring political candidates.
Pushing back— The law — one of DeSantis' top priorities from last year — came after Twitter had removed former President Donald Trump from its platform and DeSantis and Republicans said the legislation was needed to battle “Big Tech oligarchs” who were silencing conservative voices. It's been part of a refrain from DeSantis as he has ripped into Silicon Valley firms, "corporate media" and other companies he says are engaged in a narrative designed to push a "leftist" agenda.
Hold on — The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals — in a unanimous decision that was written by a judge appointed to the bench by Donald Trump — kept in place major parts of an injunction slapped against the law last year.
From the ruling — “Put simply, with minor exceptions, the government can’t tell a private person or entity what to say or how to say it,” Circuit Judge Kevin Newsom wrote. Newsom added that “We hold that it is substantially likely that social-media companies — even the biggest ones — are ‘private actors’ whose rights the First Amendment protects."
DeSantis knocked down in battle with tech industry
www.politico.com
No wonder Ron is considered a front runner for prez in today's POT. His authoritarian impulses come through loud and clear.........and Repubs like that.
berg80
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Here is what DeSantis and the Repub controlled legislature thinks about the will of the people.
In November 2018, nearly 65 percent of Florida voters approved Amendment 4, a constitutional amendment that automatically restored voting rights to most Floridians with past convictions who had completed the terms of their sentence. Shortly thereafter, in June 2019, Gov. Ron DeSantis signed Senate Bill 7066 into law, prohibiting returning citizens from voting unless they pay off certain legal financial obligations (LFOs) imposed by a court pursuant to a felony conviction.
www.brennancenter.org
MAY 24, 2020
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — A federal court today ruled that a Florida law that created wealth-based hurdles to voting is unconstitutional. The decision restores voting rights to hundreds of thousands of people with past felony convictions.
The law, SB 7066, required people with past convictions to pay all outstanding legal fees, costs, fines, and restitution before regaining their right to vote, undermining Floridians’ overwhelming 2018 passage of Amendment 4, which restored voting rights to more than a million people who had completed the terms of their sentence, including parole or probation.
U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle found that conditioning voting on payment of legal financial obligations a person is unable to pay violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment by discriminating on the basis of wealth. He also held that requiring the payment of costs and fees violates the 24th Amendment, which prohibits poll taxes, and that the law violates the National Voter Registration Act.
www.aclu.org
But DeSantis and the legislature found a way to frustrate what a majority of Floridians wanted.
Nearly two years after Florida voters approved a landmark constitutional amendment allowing felons to vote, state officials don’t know how many have registered. They also don’t know how many felons on the voter rolls owe court fees, fines or restitution that would disqualify them from voting under a subsequent state law that limited the amendment’s scope.
Florida officials have not removed any felons from the rolls for owing fines or fees, and they’re unlikely to do so before Election Day, Secretary of State Laurel Lee said in an interview Monday. It’s unclear whether those whom the state fails to prune are entitled to vote after all — or may face prosecution if they do.
With so much in flux, the winner in Florida of the closely watched presidential vote could be decided by the courts for the second time in two decades.
Amid the confusion, the one certainty is that Florida’s Republican governor and Legislature have tamped down the felon vote, according to an analysis of state records by the Tampa Bay Times, Miami Herald and ProPublica. In a presidential election marred by voter suppression tactics, such as misinformation about vote-by-mail fraud, the weakening of Florida’s ballot measure, known as Amendment 4, may constitute the biggest single instance of voter disenfranchisement. Like the poll taxes of the Jim Crow era, the restrictions have especially hit Black Floridians, who make up a disproportionate share of felons and register overwhelmingly as Democrats.
www.propublica.org
In November 2018, nearly 65 percent of Florida voters approved Amendment 4, a constitutional amendment that automatically restored voting rights to most Floridians with past convictions who had completed the terms of their sentence. Shortly thereafter, in June 2019, Gov. Ron DeSantis signed Senate Bill 7066 into law, prohibiting returning citizens from voting unless they pay off certain legal financial obligations (LFOs) imposed by a court pursuant to a felony conviction.
Voting Rights Restoration Efforts in Florida
A summary of current felony disenfranchisement policies and legislative advocacy in Florida.
MAY 24, 2020
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — A federal court today ruled that a Florida law that created wealth-based hurdles to voting is unconstitutional. The decision restores voting rights to hundreds of thousands of people with past felony convictions.
The law, SB 7066, required people with past convictions to pay all outstanding legal fees, costs, fines, and restitution before regaining their right to vote, undermining Floridians’ overwhelming 2018 passage of Amendment 4, which restored voting rights to more than a million people who had completed the terms of their sentence, including parole or probation.
U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle found that conditioning voting on payment of legal financial obligations a person is unable to pay violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment by discriminating on the basis of wealth. He also held that requiring the payment of costs and fees violates the 24th Amendment, which prohibits poll taxes, and that the law violates the National Voter Registration Act.
Federal Court Rules Florida Law That Undermined Voting Rights Restoration Is Unconstitutional | American Civil Liberties Union
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — A federal court today ruled that a Florida law that created wealth-based hurdles to voting is unconstitutional. The decision...
www.aclu.org
But DeSantis and the legislature found a way to frustrate what a majority of Floridians wanted.
Nearly two years after Florida voters approved a landmark constitutional amendment allowing felons to vote, state officials don’t know how many have registered. They also don’t know how many felons on the voter rolls owe court fees, fines or restitution that would disqualify them from voting under a subsequent state law that limited the amendment’s scope.
Florida officials have not removed any felons from the rolls for owing fines or fees, and they’re unlikely to do so before Election Day, Secretary of State Laurel Lee said in an interview Monday. It’s unclear whether those whom the state fails to prune are entitled to vote after all — or may face prosecution if they do.
With so much in flux, the winner in Florida of the closely watched presidential vote could be decided by the courts for the second time in two decades.
Amid the confusion, the one certainty is that Florida’s Republican governor and Legislature have tamped down the felon vote, according to an analysis of state records by the Tampa Bay Times, Miami Herald and ProPublica. In a presidential election marred by voter suppression tactics, such as misinformation about vote-by-mail fraud, the weakening of Florida’s ballot measure, known as Amendment 4, may constitute the biggest single instance of voter disenfranchisement. Like the poll taxes of the Jim Crow era, the restrictions have especially hit Black Floridians, who make up a disproportionate share of felons and register overwhelmingly as Democrats.
In Florida, the Gutting of a Landmark Law Leaves Few Felons Likely to Vote
State officials don’t know how many felons are registered or eligible to vote. So we did our own analysis and found only a very small percentage of them will be able to cast ballots this election. Some could face prosecution if they do.
www.propublica.org
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