Deon Sanders wins SI sportsman of the year. Wtf?

[Oddball]

Back in the 80's, SI was the $#!t! Each issue was chock full of expectations! The writing was great!

That's about forever.

 

[Rocko]

I already did.

Football players are faster and stronger because they live in the weight room, while with other sports athletes focus on developing skills. Deion was a great athlete, however didn’t have great skill, which was required in baseball. That’s not to take away from Deion being skilled enough from being able to play baseball, but he wasn’t that good in baseball. To make a long story short, Deion was an amazing athlete, but not the most skilled.

 

[Oddball]

LeBron is more classy than “coach Prime”

Not at all....He just isn't as gawdy about his classlessness.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Better than average MLB player.

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB
1989	21	NYY	AL	14	50	47	7	11	2	0	2	7	1	0	3	8	.234	.280	.404	.684	92	19
1990	22	NYY	AL	57	149	133	24	21	2	2	3	9	8	2	13	27	.158	.236	.271	.507	42	36
1991	23	ATL	NL	54	122	110	16	21	1	2	4	13	11	3	12	23	.191	.270	.345	.616	68	38
1992	24	ATL	NL	97	325	303	54	92	6	14	8	28	26	9	18	52	.304	.346	.495	.841	130	150
1993	25	ATL	NL	95	294	272	42	75	18	6	6	28	19	7	16	42	.276	.321	.452	.773	105	123
1994	26	TOT	NL	92	414	375	58	106	17	4	4	28	38	16	32	63	.283	.342	.381	.724	89	143
1994	26	ATL	NL	46	211	191	32	55	10	0	4	21	19	7	16	28	.288	.343	.403	.746	93	77
1994	26	CIN	NL	46	203	184	26	51	7	4	0	7	19	9	16	35	.277	.342	.359	.700	84	66
1995	27	TOT	NL	85	379	343	48	92	11	8	6	28	24	9	27	60	.268	.327	.399	.727	94	137
1995	27	CIN	NL	33	144	129	19	31	2	3	1	10	16	3	9	18	.240	.296	.326	.621	65	42
1995	27	SFG		52	235	214	29	61	9	5	5	18	8	6	18	42	.285	.346	.444	.790	112	95
1996
1997	29	CIN		115	509	465	53	127	13	7	5	23	56	13	34	67	.273	.329	.363	.693	80	169	4	6	2	2	2	*87/H
1998
1999
2001	33	CIN		32	83	75	6	13	2	0	1	4	3	4	4	10	.173	.235	.240	.475	21	18	2	2	2	0	0	H7/8D9
9 Yrs	641	2325	2123	308	558	72	43	39	168	186	63	159	352	.263	.319	.392	.711	89	833	23	21	12	10	7

 

[Rocko]

Better than average MLB player.

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB
1989	21	NYY	AL	14	50	47	7	11	2	0	2	7	1	0	3	8	.234	.280	.404	.684	92	19
1990	22	NYY	AL	57	149	133	24	21	2	2	3	9	8	2	13	27	.158	.236	.271	.507	42	36
1991	23	ATL	NL	54	122	110	16	21	1	2	4	13	11	3	12	23	.191	.270	.345	.616	68	38
1992	24	ATL	NL	97	325	303	54	92	6	14	8	28	26	9	18	52	.304	.346	.495	.841	130	150
1993	25	ATL	NL	95	294	272	42	75	18	6	6	28	19	7	16	42	.276	.321	.452	.773	105	123
1994	26	TOT	NL	92	414	375	58	106	17	4	4	28	38	16	32	63	.283	.342	.381	.724	89	143
1994	26	ATL	NL	46	211	191	32	55	10	0	4	21	19	7	16	28	.288	.343	.403	.746	93	77
1994	26	CIN	NL	46	203	184	26	51	7	4	0	7	19	9	16	35	.277	.342	.359	.700	84	66
1995	27	TOT	NL	85	379	343	48	92	11	8	6	28	24	9	27	60	.268	.327	.399	.727	94	137
1995	27	CIN	NL	33	144	129	19	31	2	3	1	10	16	3	9	18	.240	.296	.326	.621	65	42
1995	27	SFG		52	235	214	29	61	9	5	5	18	8	6	18	42	.285	.346	.444	.790	112	95
1996
1997	29	CIN		115	509	465	53	127	13	7	5	23	56	13	34	67	.273	.329	.363	.693	80	169	4	6	2	2	2	*87/H
1998
1999
2001	33	CIN		32	83	75	6	13	2	0	1	4	3	4	4	10	.173	.235	.240	.475	21	18	2	2	2	0	0	H7/8D9
9 Yrs	641	2325	2123	308	558	72	43	39	168	186	63	159	352	.263	.319	.392	.711	89	833	23	21	12	10	7

He didn’t stand out. That’s not a hall of fame career. I give him credit as a great athlete. Heck he played both sides of the ball in the NFL and Major League Baseball. One of the best athletes to ever lace them up.

 

[odanny]

Deion was a great athlete, however didn’t have great skill, which was required in baseball

 

[Rocko]

Way to present a mature argument

 

[odanny]

Way to present a mature argument

It matches your statement though, no offense intended.

 

[MarathonMike]

LeBron is more classy than “coach Prime”

I might have agreed with you until Lebron went all in on the Black Lives Matter bull crap. Sanders correctly called out the hypocrisy of BLM and their silence on Black on Black murders.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

He didn’t stand out. That’s not a hall of fame career. I give him credit as a great athlete. Heck he played both sides of the ball in the NFL and Major League Baseball. One of the best athletes to ever lace them up.

You don't get to move the goal post from a substandard player to HOF. Sanders was an average or better ball player.

 

[odanny]

Braves didn't lose the World Series because of Deion, that is for sure:

Deion Sanders had a batting average of .533 with 8 hits, an RBI and 4 runs scored in 4 games in the World Series in his career.

 

[Rocko]

You don't get to move the goal post from a substandard player to HOF. Sanders was an average or better ball player.

The argument was who is more skilled than whom between Deion and LeBron. Deion is one of the greatest athletes, but when just discussing skill, LeBron laps him. I never said Deion was a highly skilled athlete, but he’s was not on Lebron’s level.

 

[leftwinger]

I might have agreed with you until Lebron went all in on the Black Lives Matter bull crap. Sanders correctly called out the hypocrisy of BLM and their silence on Black on Black murders.

Lebron could be juicing too. Everytime partially “caught” the MSM rushes into coverup mode. pretty old guy to keep it going?

Look at that MINN QB. Just running left out of the pocket. Looked to be laboring, fat, old, slow. Poor running technique. Blew achilles. Rogers in the pocket….doing very little, torn achilles. There is a shelf life. But for the juicers like Bonds. He got better and did not miss any time.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The argument was who is more skilled than whom between Deion and LeBron. Deion is one of the greatest athletes, but when just discussing skill, LeBron laps him. I never said Deion was a highly skilled athlete, but he’s was not on Lebron’s level.

That is an argument that can't be made, because the skill sets are different. Deon has only been rivaled by Bo Jackson as a football player and exceeded as a baseball player.

LeBron and Deion cannot be measured against each other in either sport.

 

[Rocko]

That is an argument that can't be made, because the skill sets are different. Deon has only been rivaled by Bo Jackson as a football player and exceeded as a baseball player.

LeBron and Deion cannot be measured against each other in either sport.

Why not? We can look at how highly skilled they are at their respective sports

 

[leftwinger]

The argument was who is more skilled than whom between Deion and LeBron. Deion is one of the greatest athletes, but when just discussing skill, LeBron laps him. I never said Deion was a highly skilled athlete, but he’s was not on Lebron’s level.

I thought BO Jackson was better in Baseball. Probably more dominating in football? Just not as quick? Not as fast? But maybe BOs’top end was as fast?

 

[Oddball]

The argument was who is more skilled than whom between Deion and LeBron. Deion is one of the greatest athletes, but when just discussing skill, LeBron laps him. I never said Deion was a highly skilled athlete, but he’s was not on Lebron’s level.

Both have traits that you can't teach and never slump: Deion is fast as the wind and LeBron is huge....While both make them big stars in their given sports, neither of them can make them so much as above average in another.

Let's see both of them lace up some skates and give it a whirl against high schoolers.

 

[Rocko]

Both have traits that you can't teach and never slump: Deion is fast as the wind and LeBron is huge....While both make them big stars in their given sports, neither of them can make them so much as above average in another.

Let's see both of them lace up some skates and give it a whirl against high schoolers.

I think LeBron being 6”9 260 lbs is the more impressive physical specimen. Both are fast twitch athletes, but no one is faster than Deion. Primarily because Deion used to live in the weight room

 

[Oddball]

I think LeBron being 6”9 260 lbs is the more impressive physical specimen. Both are fast twitch athletes, but no one is faster than Deion. Primarily because Deion used to live in the weight room

"Impressive" through no effort on his own...Likewise, you can't coach or pump up in the weight room speed....You either have it or you don't.

 

[Rocko]

"Impressive" through no effort on his own...Likewise, you can't coach or pump up in the weight room speed....You either have it or you don't.

Deion had natural speed, but he also did a lot of speed training to get to be as explosive as he was.