Denmark the liberals dream! Laughable

[bripat9643]

Alright, send me your money immediately then. Let's see you live your values.

Again, I find it far more likely that Denmark being above US in the heritage index is far more likely story as the success of Denmark.

I also believe you have produced nothing in your life, but are just a leech. Of course economic freedom doesn't matter to you.

Although money doesn't buy happiness, it buys everything else which is a comfort in your misery.

It's hard to believe you can be happy when you don't have money to buy your son a new bicycle or Xbox console. You can't buy your wife new clothes or afford to go to the hair dressers and you have to use a 10 year old car that breaks down once a month.

You certainly can because happiness is a state of mind. If every one in your neighborhood has an Xbox, new bikes, and new clothes, you might be unhappy if you couldn't provide these. However if such items were rare in your neighborhood, you would probably be happy providing last years Xbox, clothes and bikes.

I've found from personal experience that giving my family what money doesn't buy, my time, attention, and love creates far more happiness than Xboxs, bikes, and new clothes.

The key is "your family" isn't it? How are you happier when the government takes your money for other families to have those items?

I doubt that I would happier or less happy. Of course if the amount was such that I could not provide for their real needs then I would unhappy. I don't think you understand what really makes most people happy.

You just admitted that it takes a certain amount of money to make people happy.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Alright, send me your money immediately then. Let's see you live your values.

Again, I find it far more likely that Denmark being above US in the heritage index is far more likely story as the success of Denmark.

I also believe you have produced nothing in your life, but are just a leech. Of course economic freedom doesn't matter to you.

Although money doesn't buy happiness, it buys everything else which is a comfort in your misery.

It's hard to believe you can be happy when you don't have money to buy your son a new bicycle or Xbox console. You can't buy your wife new clothes or afford to go to the hair dressers and you have to use a 10 year old car that breaks down once a month.

You certainly can because happiness is a state of mind. If every one in your neighborhood has an Xbox, new bikes, and new clothes, you might be unhappy if you couldn't provide these. However if such items were rare in your neighborhood, you would probably be happy providing last years Xbox, clothes and bikes.

I've found from personal experience that giving my family what money doesn't buy, my time, attention, and love creates far more happiness than Xboxs, bikes, and new clothes.

The key is "your family" isn't it? How are you happier when the government takes your money for other families to have those items?

I doubt that I would happier or less happy. Of course if the amount was such that I could not provide for their real needs then I would unhappy. I don't think you understand what really makes most people happy.

Guess what, you aren't a socialist. Socialism is paying out the ass for other people's families. If you get the sadz because paying for others which obviously means you have less to take care of your own because there's no other way to do it then you should probably avoid voting democrat.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Although money doesn't buy happiness, it buys everything else which is a comfort in your misery.

It's hard to believe you can be happy when you don't have money to buy your son a new bicycle or Xbox console. You can't buy your wife new clothes or afford to go to the hair dressers and you have to use a 10 year old car that breaks down once a month.

You certainly can because happiness is a state of mind. If every one in your neighborhood has an Xbox, new bikes, and new clothes, you might be unhappy if you couldn't provide these. However if such items were rare in your neighborhood, you would probably be happy providing last years Xbox, clothes and bikes.

I've found from personal experience that giving my family what money doesn't buy, my time, attention, and love creates far more happiness than Xboxs, bikes, and new clothes.

The key is "your family" isn't it? How are you happier when the government takes your money for other families to have those items?

I doubt that I would happier or less happy. Of course if the amount was such that I could not provide for their real needs then I would unhappy. I don't think you understand what really makes most people happy.

You just admitted that it takes a certain amount of money to make people happy.

Apparently he means other peoples money.

 

[Flopper]

Although money doesn't buy happiness, it buys everything else which is a comfort in your misery.

It's hard to believe you can be happy when you don't have money to buy your son a new bicycle or Xbox console. You can't buy your wife new clothes or afford to go to the hair dressers and you have to use a 10 year old car that breaks down once a month.

You certainly can because happiness is a state of mind. If every one in your neighborhood has an Xbox, new bikes, and new clothes, you might be unhappy if you couldn't provide these. However if such items were rare in your neighborhood, you would probably be happy providing last years Xbox, clothes and bikes.

I've found from personal experience that giving my family what money doesn't buy, my time, attention, and love creates far more happiness than Xboxs, bikes, and new clothes.

The key is "your family" isn't it? How are you happier when the government takes your money for other families to have those items?

I doubt that I would happier or less happy. Of course if the amount was such that I could not provide for their real needs then I would unhappy. I don't think you understand what really makes most people happy.

You just admitted that it takes a certain amount of money to make people happy.

Of course people need enough money to meet basic needs. No one is happy starving to death. However, that does not mean, people need great wealth to be happy.

Just about every serious study that has been made about what makes people happy has comes to the same conclusion, "Money does not buy happiness"

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's hard to believe you can be happy when you don't have money to buy your son a new bicycle or Xbox console. You can't buy your wife new clothes or afford to go to the hair dressers and you have to use a 10 year old car that breaks down once a month.

You certainly can because happiness is a state of mind. If every one in your neighborhood has an Xbox, new bikes, and new clothes, you might be unhappy if you couldn't provide these. However if such items were rare in your neighborhood, you would probably be happy providing last years Xbox, clothes and bikes.

I've found from personal experience that giving my family what money doesn't buy, my time, attention, and love creates far more happiness than Xboxs, bikes, and new clothes.

The key is "your family" isn't it? How are you happier when the government takes your money for other families to have those items?

I doubt that I would happier or less happy. Of course if the amount was such that I could not provide for their real needs then I would unhappy. I don't think you understand what really makes most people happy.

You just admitted that it takes a certain amount of money to make people happy.

Of course people need enough money to meet basic needs. No one is happy starving to death. However, that does not mean, people need great wealth to be happy.

Just about every serious study that has been made about what makes people happy has comes to the same conclusion, "Money does not buy happiness"

Those study's always come from broke ass mofos...

 

[jon_berzerk]

indeed. I made a thread on this but no one would touch it.

yes

 

[bripat9643]

It's hard to believe you can be happy when you don't have money to buy your son a new bicycle or Xbox console. You can't buy your wife new clothes or afford to go to the hair dressers and you have to use a 10 year old car that breaks down once a month.

You certainly can because happiness is a state of mind. If every one in your neighborhood has an Xbox, new bikes, and new clothes, you might be unhappy if you couldn't provide these. However if such items were rare in your neighborhood, you would probably be happy providing last years Xbox, clothes and bikes.

I've found from personal experience that giving my family what money doesn't buy, my time, attention, and love creates far more happiness than Xboxs, bikes, and new clothes.

The key is "your family" isn't it? How are you happier when the government takes your money for other families to have those items?

I doubt that I would happier or less happy. Of course if the amount was such that I could not provide for their real needs then I would unhappy. I don't think you understand what really makes most people happy.

You just admitted that it takes a certain amount of money to make people happy.

Of course people need enough money to meet basic needs. No one is happy starving to death. However, that does not mean, people need great wealth to be happy.

Just about every serious study that has been made about what makes people happy has comes to the same conclusion, "Money does not buy happiness"

So your claim is that at some point between zero and infinity money no longer matters?

You do realize that what you're saying is absolutely meaningless. Of course a dollar means more to a homeless person than a billionaire. That's all you've said.

As for your studies, how do they even measure happiness, which is entirely subjective?

The people doing these studies are obvious quacks.

 

[GHook93]

Sweet meme!

Explain why Denmark consistently ranks as one of the most prosperous nations and having the happiest citizens on the planet.

Why is that?

because the OP is horseshit.

Can refute the facts so resort to a red herring!

Fact of the matter Denmark has one of the lowest home and auto ownership rates in the western world; but have some of the highest taxes in the world.

If you do buy a home, you will live in a tiny place compared to what you would get in the states!

 

[Flopper]

You certainly can because happiness is a state of mind. If every one in your neighborhood has an Xbox, new bikes, and new clothes, you might be unhappy if you couldn't provide these. However if such items were rare in your neighborhood, you would probably be happy providing last years Xbox, clothes and bikes.

I've found from personal experience that giving my family what money doesn't buy, my time, attention, and love creates far more happiness than Xboxs, bikes, and new clothes.

The key is "your family" isn't it? How are you happier when the government takes your money for other families to have those items?

I doubt that I would happier or less happy. Of course if the amount was such that I could not provide for their real needs then I would unhappy. I don't think you understand what really makes most people happy.

You just admitted that it takes a certain amount of money to make people happy.

Of course people need enough money to meet basic needs. No one is happy starving to death. However, that does not mean, people need great wealth to be happy.

Just about every serious study that has been made about what makes people happy has comes to the same conclusion, "Money does not buy happiness"

So your claim is that at some point between zero and infinity money no longer matters?

You do realize that what you're saying is absolutely meaningless. Of course a dollar means more to a homeless person than a billionaire. That's all you've said.

As for your studies, how do they even measure happiness, which is entirely subjective?

The people doing these studies are obvious quacks.

Now, I know why I had you on ignore.

 

[bripat9643]

The key is "your family" isn't it? How are you happier when the government takes your money for other families to have those items?

I doubt that I would happier or less happy. Of course if the amount was such that I could not provide for their real needs then I would unhappy. I don't think you understand what really makes most people happy.

You just admitted that it takes a certain amount of money to make people happy.

Of course people need enough money to meet basic needs. No one is happy starving to death. However, that does not mean, people need great wealth to be happy.

Just about every serious study that has been made about what makes people happy has comes to the same conclusion, "Money does not buy happiness"

So your claim is that at some point between zero and infinity money no longer matters?

You do realize that what you're saying is absolutely meaningless. Of course a dollar means more to a homeless person than a billionaire. That's all you've said.

As for your studies, how do they even measure happiness, which is entirely subjective?

The people doing these studies are obvious quacks.

Now, I know why I had you on ignore.

You had me on ignore because I slash your "logic" into little pieces in a matter of a few sentences?

 

[frigidweirdo]

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Then again, in the US you still pay for things. You pay MORE fore healthcare, it just doesn't get spent as tax, but as an insurance premium. Apparently it's better to spend more for healthcare through insurance than through tax. Don't get it.

 

[GHook93]

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Then again, in the US you still pay for things. You pay MORE fore healthcare, it just doesn't get spent as tax, but as an insurance premium. Apparently it's better to spend more for healthcare through insurance than through tax. Don't get it.

Amazing how people forget that Denmark taxes the hell out of you to get the "free healthcare."

For example, I spoke with my colleagues in the UK say they get taxed at 45%, then on the remainder you are taxed 22% for NHC. So say you make 100 pounds. After income taxes you get 65k. You then get taxes an additional 14,300 pounds for the NHC. That is roughly $1200 a month for their free healthcare (that is triple what I pay for my family of 6). On top of that any person of means in the UK (or any part of Europe) buys private health insurance, because it eliminates the long lines, get access to the best doctors, make choices on own healthcare etc.

 

[frigidweirdo]

View attachment 68898

Then again, in the US you still pay for things. You pay MORE fore healthcare, it just doesn't get spent as tax, but as an insurance premium. Apparently it's better to spend more for healthcare through insurance than through tax. Don't get it.

Amazing how people forget that Denmark taxes the hell out of you to get the "free healthcare."

For example, I spoke with my colleagues in the UK say they get taxed at 45%, then on the remainder you are taxed 22% for NHC. So say you make 100 pounds. After income taxes you get 65k. You then get taxes an additional 14,300 pounds for the NHC. That is roughly $1200 a month for their free healthcare (that is triple what I pay for my family of 6). On top of that any person of means in the UK (or any part of Europe) buys private health insurance, because it eliminates the long lines, get access to the best doctors, make choices on own healthcare etc.

As I said.

Denmark taxes the hell out of you. In the US you get taxed then have to pay over the top prices for healthcare. Which is better?

You're talking to people and then making assumptions about what the tax is for.

You get taxed, and you get healthcare on demand, you also get free education that isn't based on where you live, you get other stuff too. If you have kids or whatever you'll get some of that back too.

In the US you pay tax to the feds, then you pay tax to your state, and you still end up having to pay property taxes for education and things like that. Then you still have to buy health insurance.

Do you see, people end up paying stuff anyway, just in the US they've tricked you into thinking you have a choice.

 

[GHook93]

View attachment 68898

Then again, in the US you still pay for things. You pay MORE fore healthcare, it just doesn't get spent as tax, but as an insurance premium. Apparently it's better to spend more for healthcare through insurance than through tax. Don't get it.

Amazing how people forget that Denmark taxes the hell out of you to get the "free healthcare."

For example, I spoke with my colleagues in the UK say they get taxed at 45%, then on the remainder you are taxed 22% for NHC. So say you make 100 pounds. After income taxes you get 65k. You then get taxes an additional 14,300 pounds for the NHC. That is roughly $1200 a month for their free healthcare (that is triple what I pay for my family of 6). On top of that any person of means in the UK (or any part of Europe) buys private health insurance, because it eliminates the long lines, get access to the best doctors, make choices on own healthcare etc.

As I said.

Denmark taxes the hell out of you. In the US you get taxed then have to pay over the top prices for healthcare. Which is better?

You're talking to people and then making assumptions about what the tax is for.

You get taxed, and you get healthcare on demand, you also get free education that isn't based on where you live, you get other stuff too. If you have kids or whatever you'll get some of that back too.

In the US you pay tax to the feds, then you pay tax to your state, and you still end up having to pay property taxes for education and things like that. Then you still have to buy health insurance.

Do you see, people end up paying stuff anyway, just in the US they've tricked you into thinking you have a choice.

They don't get healthcare on demand. That is why many Danes (like all wealthy Europeans) get private health insurance.

Your quote "free education that isn't based on where you live," this has been promote over and over again by conservative politicians all the time. It is called school choice, but the big cities are fully in bed with he Democratic machine.

You say free school and healthcare, but as I showed you with my British example it's not free you pay for it in the form of taxation.

There is a give and take aspect with the so called free stuff. Danish home and auto owner is extremely low. Those lucky enough to be able to afford a car or home, buy tiny very expensive homes and cars!

 

[irie]

Personally, I wouldn't be too happy with a 55% federal income tax rate, but that's just me......I quirky about confiscatory practices....

 

[frigidweirdo]

View attachment 68898

Then again, in the US you still pay for things. You pay MORE fore healthcare, it just doesn't get spent as tax, but as an insurance premium. Apparently it's better to spend more for healthcare through insurance than through tax. Don't get it.

Amazing how people forget that Denmark taxes the hell out of you to get the "free healthcare."

For example, I spoke with my colleagues in the UK say they get taxed at 45%, then on the remainder you are taxed 22% for NHC. So say you make 100 pounds. After income taxes you get 65k. You then get taxes an additional 14,300 pounds for the NHC. That is roughly $1200 a month for their free healthcare (that is triple what I pay for my family of 6). On top of that any person of means in the UK (or any part of Europe) buys private health insurance, because it eliminates the long lines, get access to the best doctors, make choices on own healthcare etc.

As I said.

Denmark taxes the hell out of you. In the US you get taxed then have to pay over the top prices for healthcare. Which is better?

You're talking to people and then making assumptions about what the tax is for.

You get taxed, and you get healthcare on demand, you also get free education that isn't based on where you live, you get other stuff too. If you have kids or whatever you'll get some of that back too.

In the US you pay tax to the feds, then you pay tax to your state, and you still end up having to pay property taxes for education and things like that. Then you still have to buy health insurance.

Do you see, people end up paying stuff anyway, just in the US they've tricked you into thinking you have a choice.

They don't get healthcare on demand. That is why many Danes (like all wealthy Europeans) get private health insurance.

Your quote "free education that isn't based on where you live," this has been promote over and over again by conservative politicians all the time. It is called school choice, but the big cities are fully in bed with he Democratic machine.

You say free school and healthcare, but as I showed you with my British example it's not free you pay for it in the form of taxation.

There is a give and take aspect with the so called free stuff. Danish home and auto owner is extremely low. Those lucky enough to be able to afford a car or home, buy tiny very expensive homes and cars!

I have made a point twice already that you pay through taxes instead of paying privately. No doubt some Danes buy private health insurance, as do richer people in many places. In the US the rich will simply buy more expensive health insurance anyway. It's all very similar.

When talking about "free" here, I had made the assumption people knew it was free on demand, rather than free.

So, Danish homes are smaller, then again Denmark is a small country and has a large population for its size, like the UK and Holland etc, so house prices are going to be higher, car usage is going to be lower, simply because there's less space and less distances to cover.

 

[GHook93]

View attachment 68898

Then again, in the US you still pay for things. You pay MORE fore healthcare, it just doesn't get spent as tax, but as an insurance premium. Apparently it's better to spend more for healthcare through insurance than through tax. Don't get it.

Amazing how people forget that Denmark taxes the hell out of you to get the "free healthcare."

For example, I spoke with my colleagues in the UK say they get taxed at 45%, then on the remainder you are taxed 22% for NHC. So say you make 100 pounds. After income taxes you get 65k. You then get taxes an additional 14,300 pounds for the NHC. That is roughly $1200 a month for their free healthcare (that is triple what I pay for my family of 6). On top of that any person of means in the UK (or any part of Europe) buys private health insurance, because it eliminates the long lines, get access to the best doctors, make choices on own healthcare etc.

As I said.

Denmark taxes the hell out of you. In the US you get taxed then have to pay over the top prices for healthcare. Which is better?

You're talking to people and then making assumptions about what the tax is for.

You get taxed, and you get healthcare on demand, you also get free education that isn't based on where you live, you get other stuff too. If you have kids or whatever you'll get some of that back too.

In the US you pay tax to the feds, then you pay tax to your state, and you still end up having to pay property taxes for education and things like that. Then you still have to buy health insurance.

Do you see, people end up paying stuff anyway, just in the US they've tricked you into thinking you have a choice.

They don't get healthcare on demand. That is why many Danes (like all wealthy Europeans) get private health insurance.

Your quote "free education that isn't based on where you live," this has been promote over and over again by conservative politicians all the time. It is called school choice, but the big cities are fully in bed with he Democratic machine.

You say free school and healthcare, but as I showed you with my British example it's not free you pay for it in the form of taxation.

There is a give and take aspect with the so called free stuff. Danish home and auto owner is extremely low. Those lucky enough to be able to afford a car or home, buy tiny very expensive homes and cars!

I have made a point twice already that you pay through taxes instead of paying privately. No doubt some Danes buy private health insurance, as do richer people in many places. In the US the rich will simply buy more expensive health insurance anyway. It's all very similar.

When talking about "free" here, I had made the assumption people knew it was free on demand, rather than free.

So, Danish homes are smaller, then again Denmark is a small country and has a large population for its size, like the UK and Holland etc, so house prices are going to be higher, car usage is going to be lower, simply because there's less space and less distances to cover.

Well stated

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Denmark is not socialist

The 20-page report notes that, by some measures, Denmark and the Nordic “socialist” countries have more economic freedom than the United States:

The Fraser Institute’s Economic Freedom of the World index ranks Denmark 16th (out of 162 countries). According to the Heritage Foundation’s Index of Economic Freedom, Denmark (ranked 12th out of 180 countries) ranks higher than the US (18th). Denmark generally ranks high on regulation, protection of private property, fighting corruption, flexibility of the labor market and trade, but ranks low on taxes and public spending, which are very high in Denmark compared to other countries....In fact, taxes are much higher in Denmark – especially on the poor and middle class. The government confiscates more than half of virtually all incomes. Low-income Danes pay an effective marginal tax rate of 56 percent; the middle class pay 57 percent."

Denmark to American leftists: We’re not socialist

In America, only people on the government dole support Socialism

 

[bripat9643]

View attachment 68898

Then again, in the US you still pay for things. You pay MORE fore healthcare, it just doesn't get spent as tax, but as an insurance premium. Apparently it's better to spend more for healthcare through insurance than through tax. Don't get it.

Amazing how people forget that Denmark taxes the hell out of you to get the "free healthcare."

For example, I spoke with my colleagues in the UK say they get taxed at 45%, then on the remainder you are taxed 22% for NHC. So say you make 100 pounds. After income taxes you get 65k. You then get taxes an additional 14,300 pounds for the NHC. That is roughly $1200 a month for their free healthcare (that is triple what I pay for my family of 6). On top of that any person of means in the UK (or any part of Europe) buys private health insurance, because it eliminates the long lines, get access to the best doctors, make choices on own healthcare etc.

As I said.

Denmark taxes the hell out of you. In the US you get taxed then have to pay over the top prices for healthcare. Which is better?

You're talking to people and then making assumptions about what the tax is for.

You get taxed, and you get healthcare on demand, you also get free education that isn't based on where you live, you get other stuff too. If you have kids or whatever you'll get some of that back too.

In the US you pay tax to the feds, then you pay tax to your state, and you still end up having to pay property taxes for education and things like that. Then you still have to buy health insurance.

Do you see, people end up paying stuff anyway, just in the US they've tricked you into thinking you have a choice.

They don't get healthcare on demand. That is why many Danes (like all wealthy Europeans) get private health insurance.

Your quote "free education that isn't based on where you live," this has been promote over and over again by conservative politicians all the time. It is called school choice, but the big cities are fully in bed with he Democratic machine.

You say free school and healthcare, but as I showed you with my British example it's not free you pay for it in the form of taxation.

There is a give and take aspect with the so called free stuff. Danish home and auto owner is extremely low. Those lucky enough to be able to afford a car or home, buy tiny very expensive homes and cars!

I have made a point twice already that you pay through taxes instead of paying privately. No doubt some Danes buy private health insurance, as do richer people in many places. In the US the rich will simply buy more expensive health insurance anyway. It's all very similar.

When talking about "free" here, I had made the assumption people knew it was free on demand, rather than free.

So, Danish homes are smaller, then again Denmark is a small country and has a large population for its size, like the UK and Holland etc, so house prices are going to be higher, car usage is going to be lower, simply because there's less space and less distances to cover.

Your theory is bullshit. The price of housing is relatively cheap in Tokyo. That fact blows your theory out of the water.